My Opinion On GEO.

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My Opinion on GEO.
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 Sylph.Murex
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By Sylph.Murex 2013-03-30 10:24:06  
This job sucks.
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Anyone have a 99 GEO with capped skills yet?
Most the spells look pretty lame(definetly needs moar spells like Regain and Phalanx and stuff like that) and so far testing Indi/Geo-Regen/Fury at 150ish Geo/Hand skill at 99(lol) the boost isnt that bad on ATT or Regen(have noticed it slowly increasing since 0 skill) but i don't think it's gonna be anywhere near close to a bards or cors song/roll
because of the JA's GEO gets GEO-Spells are more potent then Indi-Spells when JA's are used but overal GEO looks pretty damn useless and lame atm. Oh also the Aura Range sucks big time.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-03-30 10:27:02  
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-03-30 10:28:04  
Having to take a dd spot makes this job problematic. Not to mention it has to stand right in the middle of battle to grant indibuffs and luopan doesn't seem very resistant. Another body to heal with overall poor defensive options isn't very appealing, even more when said buffs don't outweight the presence of an additional dd.
But I am judging this based on what people commented about these buffs, I am not aware of their potency yet.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-03-30 10:29:00  
Geo + hand skill gimped at Lv99 and you're complaining about potency? gtfo lol
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By Sylph.Murex 2013-03-30 10:30:26  
Eikechi have you even unlocked the job? if not your thought or opinions or anything to do with geo are not wanted here. kthxbai
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-03-30 10:31:38  
Yes, because playing a job, has anything to do with knowledge of game mechanics of buffs and how a job's native skills (see geo + hand skill or brd + instruments) have effects on potency.... Not to mention in the like 10 other Geo threads, they have stated that skill buffs potency... so yeah.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-03-30 10:32:45  
First slice of the Sylow-chartpie already covered. That was fast.
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By Sylph.Murex 2013-03-30 10:33:10  
do you have any clue at all how a loupan/loupan-aura works or indi-aura's? and grats u can read damn i thought you were like 90% of everyone else who couldn't :( There is a big difference between reading lies and experienting the facts. aka whats geo's ele skill? cause it's not b- fyi.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-03-30 10:35:24  
Sylph.Murex said: »
do you have any clue at all how a loupan/loupan-aura works or indi-aura's?

Not atm, because I haven't read up on loupans specifically (other than a little bit). Do I need to for this argument? No. Your skills are terribly gimped, so of course your potency is going to suffer. End of story.
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By Quetzacoatl 2013-03-30 10:35:46  
Sylph.Murex said: »
testing Indi/Geo-Regen/Fury at 150ish Geo/Hand skill at 99(lol)

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By Sylph.Murex 2013-03-30 10:36:33  
whats the cap on geomancy and handbell? i'm at about half way there which is about half the potency.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-03-30 10:38:24  
BGwiki still has uncertain data about skill(since for now probably nobody is capped cause leeches be leeching). Both geomancy and bells should be between c- and c+ anyway. Which makes it very similar to bard.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-03-30 10:39:39  
Wiki has initial testing of Geo as a C- or C+ for both Geo and bell skill, C- caps at 368, C caps at 373, and C+ caps at 378 for 99. So you've got a long way to go. Also, who knows if the buffs work in tiers, and jump up in potency say 300+? Also There is ONE DAMN BELL OUT atm, so there could be a whole line, for different potency buffs, much like brd... Complaining about a job on day 3 is hardly warranted, especially when your skills are so gimped.
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By Sylph.Murex 2013-03-30 10:39:53  
BGwiki also says Ele skill is B- which is a 388 cap which it's not it's capped at 404.
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By Asura.Ina 2013-03-30 10:40:24  
Only info I can find quickly is that it is C- to C+ so you are looking at it capping around 373. For the record that in no way means half potency, it could easily compound on itself.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-03-30 10:41:07  
Sylph.Murex said: »
BGwiki also says Ele skill is B- which is a 388 cap which it's not it's capped at 404.
Sounds like you have merits. 388+16=404.
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By Asura.Ina 2013-03-30 10:42:06  
Sylph.Murex said: »
BGwiki also says Ele skill is B- which is a 388 cap which it's not it's capped at 404.
You can tell by looking at the caps as you go up in level... you have merits btw because that would put you at 404 from a 388 cap.
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By Sylph.Murex 2013-03-30 10:42:13  
I have 0 merits in Elemental 8/8 Enhancing 8/8 Enfeebling 8/8 Ninjutsu.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-03-30 10:42:55  
Go fix the page then.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-03-30 10:44:32  
Sylph.Murex said: »
BGwiki also says Ele skill is B- which is a 388 cap which it's not it's capped at 404.

Or the wiki could be wrong and it's B+ which caps at 404
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By Sylph.Murex 2013-03-30 10:45:37  
You think? Damn your smart.
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By Valefor.Lynkux 2013-03-30 10:46:05  
The simple fact that anyone is burning Geo or Run to 99 shows that they have no desire to learn the job. So trying to explain things to them is pointless.

On another note, I'm simply irritated that Geo is simply a buff job. Geomancers in every other ff game have been more like blu's but with their spells gaining power based on their surroundings and some spells being able to be used based on where they are standing. This would have been a lot more interesting than a 2 aura job with nukes that wont be anywhere as useful as a blm.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2013-03-30 10:47:10  
OP is so edgy and cool.
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By Asura.Flippea 2013-03-30 10:47:45  
k.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-03-30 10:47:56  
Sylph.Murex said: »
You think? Damn your smart.

And there's the ad homonim... Seha, is that another one of Sylow's piechart pieces?
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By Sylph.Murex 2013-03-30 10:49:01  
Valefor.Lynkux said: »
The simple fact that anyone is burning Geo or Run to 99 shows that they have no desire to learn the job. So trying to explain things to them is pointless.

On another note, I'm simply irritated that Geo is simply a buff job. Geomancers in every other ff game have been more like blu's but with their spells gaining power based on their surroundings and some spells being able to be used based on where they are standing. This would have been a lot more interesting than a 2 aura job with nukes that wont be anywhere as useful as a blm.
Well In FFXI's current state if you want to lv you will abyssea burn at lv 30 or GoV either way your not going to get skill off doing what the job was meant to do. I got that out of the way and now i'm learning the job and i'm learning that it sucks.
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By Asura.Bluespoons 2013-03-30 10:49:15  
Damn why you guys gotta talk about pie when I'm hungry?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2013-03-30 10:50:36  
Wait, can I see the piechart? I gotta see this.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-03-30 10:56:02  
There ya go. Sylow's piechart. Hijacked from another thread.
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By Heimdel 2013-03-30 10:57:05  
Well one thing I know is you are going see a lot of Geo mules running behind people now. MP for real curing buff and enfeebs that can be cast and forgotten about and who knows what combinations people will come up with or how the job will grow in future updates.
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