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 Cerberus.Immortalmoon
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By Cerberus.Immortalmoon 2013-03-16 07:09:04  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
FFXII is one of the worst FF ever.
ffxii is one of my favorite lol
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By Asura.Tamoa 2013-03-16 07:11:23  
When Asura's Port Jeuno dhalmel shouts bleed over to yells - that's when I turn the filter on.


Edit: that aside, not liking this update much, it's just one nerf after another and rather depressing to read.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2013-03-16 07:12:44  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
FFXII is one of the worst FF ever.

I really can't see why some people think this :<

It was a really great game, in my opinion.
Just wish the zones were a bit bigger at times.
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By Cerberus.Valmur 2013-03-16 07:16:14  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
FFXII is one of the worst FF ever.

It was a great game the voice acting atmosphere/plot was excellent (for me anyways) only bad point(s) I can find was dungeon/maps were frigging huge (The Grand Crystal) and Vaan
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By Asura.Calinzt 2013-03-16 07:35:13  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
FFXII is one of the worst FF ever.
Well, I for one agree that FFXII was a pretty terrible game. The story made little sense. Was too political. Half the characters didn't have a purpose of being there (especially Panello). And it was really Ashe's story, not Vaan's.

I thought VAs were generally pretty bad. But not as bad as FFX obviously.

Opinions will be opinions of course. And nothing anyone ever says will change anyone else's view on the game.
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By Solrain 2013-03-16 07:35:19  
FFXII was the best Final Fantasy for one reason. Three words:

No.
Random.
Battles.

Oh and the Gambit system.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-03-16 07:42:55  
XII was a game with a troubled development cycle and it really shows in the final product. Should've given it maybe a few more months to cook and it probably would've been one of the best games in the series.
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By Heimdel 2013-03-16 08:41:08  
So we're going to fix twilight scythe after it has been in game for a couple years though there was nothing wrong with it. Also we're going to lower the levels and strength of certain mobs in various events but we're going to greatly increase the damage you to so it cancels out the lowering of the mobs levels. What the hell...
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-03-16 08:49:56  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
FFXII is one of the worst FF ever.

Qft, Though I wish Adventure Fellows got some kind of gambit systemw
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-03-16 08:55:04  
I played about all FF in the saga(bar the first CC and Dissidia), and at least followed the story of the ps3 ones on youtube since I couldn't play them. Based on that I consider it one of the worst FF.
I'm not sure why I should justify my view on FFXII. You liked it? Good. I didn't.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-03-16 09:03:39  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I played about all FF in the saga(bar the first CC and Dissidia), and at least followed the story of the ps3 ones on youtube since I couldn't play them. Based on that I consider it one of the worst FF. I'm not sure why I should justify my view on FFXII. You liked it? Good. I didn't.

I've been playing 13 when I have free time, the ATB system is far better, the story is about on par, and there's no 12 year old in spandex crying about his parents, I give it 9/10
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By Cerberus.Thongypoo 2013-03-16 09:54:06  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I played about all FF in the saga(bar the first CC and Dissidia), and at least followed the story of the ps3 ones on youtube since I couldn't play them. Based on that I consider it one of the worst FF.
I'm not sure why I should justify my view on FFXII. You liked it? Good. I didn't.

If you don't like it that's one thing. Then its your opinion its one of the worst FFs not fact like you make it seem. In my opinion 13 is made for mindless drones who like to follow an arrow for an entire game. It is one of the most linear games I've ever seen.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-03-16 10:01:08  
Should we sign every single post with imo?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2013-03-16 10:09:16  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Should we sign every single post with imo?
This

It's easy enough to tell fact from opinion. You were able to identify it as an opinion on your own. Why does it need to be labeled as such each time?
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By Asura.Fondue 2013-03-16 10:10:00  
are they never planning on fixing ageha/other debuffwses?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2013-03-16 10:15:11  
I wonder what effects this will have on DD tanking. (if any)
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-03-16 10:16:51  
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are they never planning on fixing ageha/other debuffwses?
Wasn't there a post that explicitly said they had no plans to go fix them?
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By Leviathan.Protey 2013-03-16 10:17:00  
with regards to the att/def update: inb4 switching over to Bio3 instead of Dia3 on NMs.
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2013-03-16 10:29:34  
I really liked FF12 :<
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-03-16 10:40:15  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Asura.Fondue said: »
are they never planning on fixing ageha/other debuffwses?
Wasn't there a post that explicitly said they had no plans to go fix them?

There was one for Shockwave specifically but I don't think they've ever outright said "no" for things like Ageha and Tourbillion.

Sylph.Tigerwoods said: »
I wonder what effects this will have on DD tanking. (if any)

DD Tanking isn't going to disappear until they do further adjustments to enmity, the only difference this is going to make is maybe people will think twice before popping Berserk/Last Resort/Counterstance and maybe even throw up Defender once in a while. (Then again Legion's getting weakened, so who knows)

The whole idea behind a tank is supposed to be that they take the hits so that the DPS can not have to worry as much about putting up defensive buffs, but if they don't fix enmity people will opt to just bounce hate around as they do now.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-03-16 10:42:02  
Leviathan.Kincard said: »
There was one for Shockwave specifically but I don't think they've ever outright said "no" for things like Ageha and Tourbillion.
Ah ok, thought it was about broken ws in general.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-03-16 10:49:18  
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I played about all FF in the saga(bar the first CC and Dissidia), and at least followed the story of the ps3 ones on youtube since I couldn't play them. Based on that I consider it one of the worst FF. I'm not sure why I should justify my view on FFXII. You liked it? Good. I didn't.
If you don't like it that's one thing. Then its your opinion its one of the worst FFs not fact like you make it seem. In my opinion 13 is made for mindless drones who like to follow an arrow for an entire game. It is one of the most linear games I've ever seen.

I'm not really a fan of linear games, but I'll take it over poor character developement and needless grinding or irrelevant sidequests that break up plot progression.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-03-16 11:03:21  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
FFXII is one of the worst FF ever.

Wat?

FFXII had flaws it was far from the "worst" FF ever. FFIII and FFMQ say hi. FFX-2? FFDoC?

If they hadn't decided to go with Eorzea for XIV, Ivalice should have been the setting.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-03-16 11:14:45  
Keep crying, I didn't even went into the details of my reasons since this isn't the place.
And I didn't say THE worst.
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By Quiznor 2013-03-16 11:20:43  
Odin.Jassik said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I played about all FF in the saga(bar the first CC and Dissidia), and at least followed the story of the ps3 ones on youtube since I couldn't play them. Based on that I consider it one of the worst FF. I'm not sure why I should justify my view on FFXII. You liked it? Good. I didn't.

I've been playing 13 when I have free time, the ATB system is far better, the story is about on par, and there's no 12 year old in spandex crying about his parents, I give it 9/10

You must not be very far if you havent met hope....
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2013-03-16 11:21:27  
x-2 had one of the best battle systems/job system of ps1 and further generations
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-03-16 11:24:17  
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
FFIII and FFMQ say hi. FFX-2? FFDoC?

small fry

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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-03-16 11:37:56  
Asura.Fondue said: »
are they never planning on fixing ageha/other debuffwses?

I don't use it often at all (if ever), so idk...what's wrong with it? Really bad accuracy on the def-? And what others are borked? I seem to be doing fine with kasha/gekko/yukki for their debuffs.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2013-03-16 11:39:53  
Floored acc on the add. effect iirc
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By Bismarck.Zuidar 2013-03-16 11:53:19  
Leviathan.Kincard said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
FFIII and FFMQ say hi. FFX-2? FFDoC?

small fry


of course, All the bravest doesn't even qualify as a game, period!
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