IiPunch - Monk Guide

Taint, maybe you mentioned it already, but what rank augments do you have and what buffs/debuffs are included in that set just falling below acc cap on Tojil? My shell is starting work on Tojil this week so I'm just trying to get the numbers solid in my head.

If they ever increased the haste cap black belt / pending red belt would be very useful again.

Rigor are Rank6 (dex+1)

Legs are Rank8 (str+3) I'll be finishing legs but not touching Rigor anymore.

What about buffs/debuffs?

****Found this out too by comparing with other monks (17 other mnks)

Shijin 5/5 and 1/5 do same dmg (Both did 2,750 in Delve)

Ascetic Fury does better dmg than Shijin and Asuran Fists (3,800 dmg in Delve)

Asuran Fists don't suck anymore (2100 dmg in Delve)


WoE H2H Dmg:31 did decent dmg (1,900~2,400 in Delve)


Funny thing tho......... (WoE) Victory Smite did better dmg than (Rigor Baghnakhs) (Rank5) Shijin / Ascetic / Asuran Fists..............

WoE h2h dmg:31
(did 7,700 On Chione and Ogopogo and Chariot)

Rigor (TypeA Rank 5) dmg:101
(did 4,800 On Chione and Ogopogo and Chariot)

The hell...............? ><


That is all I would like to Report (maybe it was useful post, maybe not)

Your random numbers mean absolutely nothing, pls understand why

I don't even know where to start, so I won't.

lol wtf XD

I hate you.

what part of "DELVE" u didn't get buddy ?

and i get the abyssea part, didn't occur to me before (Sorry about that) but the DELVE info , why is Ascetic doing crazy *** dmg ?

not once or twice , like 90% of it did 2,800~3,800

10% did 2,100

Shijin was doing 2,100~2,750

Asuran was Doing 1,900~2,100

Any thoughts , Trying to understand it better, so I may benefit off it and maybe be able to help other ppl benefit too.

I got nothing against you, don't even know you, sorry but I don't hate you, nor dislike you.

^^ Sorry about that buddy.

Sounds like you had ***for attack. (Ascetic's has a large ratio boost)

what ya mean buddy , not just me, had other WELL Respected players with me, so can't say was just me or w/e

Did people have attack buffs and were they using sushi or meat?

You're still being very vague.

Could be a problem with your gear. You could have a pimped out VS set and literally no or very few swaps for Shijin which would lead to obvious gaps in their power.

Then there is what Sylow is getting at, if you don't have enough attack/accuracy, be it from buffs or food, the situation is going to favor Ascetics because of its ratio boost.

Madx2,GEO EVA down,Hunters

Awesome, we'll have all that. Thanks!

With all those buff, "olds" WS are better than merited, Weapon Damage isn't a big impact on those unless SE decides to update their damage formula.

ugh.

Monk's str is in its dot dmg, not it's ws dmg. No way anyone should be using a woe h2h still lol.

But yeah those numbers mean nothing. If you are just looking at big ws numbers then ruinator gonna be your best highest avg. High spikes prob sam with a quad proc shoha. Best dot is easily monk with oaxitrs.

just what are those numbers? the highest you seen? or their avg from eyeballing?

Don't provoke him, its obviously ***data.

Sokay I know the guy. I don't let him go monk anyways just cor, when he joins one of my delve farms.

Can I try... as pup... and combine my and shooter's dmg :)

Sorry, I do not mean to be rude but you haven't found out anything. Finding things out involves a lot more than just some casual chattering with a couple of monks.
Also seeing the response from one that actually knows you I don't really have the impression that the monks you have spoken to are among the better ones let alone the exceptional.

Aside from that we're missing a lot of data.
Have you parsed any of the fights? Which mobs did you fight? How many mobs have you fought? What food did you use? What buffs did you have? What gear was used for TPing and what gear are you using for your weapon skills?
Are you using a generic WS set or are you using a different set for each weapon skill? What are your merits? And not just mnk specific but over all.

Oh, and if you want to do it even better; Be sure to include the same data for the 17 other monks as well.

To bring one point up, your Shijin Spirals.
For a proper Delve an average of 2750 on the low side, when properly buffed I have no trouble averaging 4 to 5k with spikes up to 7k depending on mob with the following set:
ItemSet 267052
(Rigor rank 5, Brais rank 10, both on the ATK path)
And with proper buffs I mean A boost spell with proper enhancing skill, 4 corsair rolls and 6 bard songs.

You need to cleverly use Soul Voice. Troub + SV give 7 min worth of incredibly high accuracy. SV madx2 will give 80 free acc for 7 min. With 2 BRDs you should be able to get capped hit rate with basic gear for 14 minutes. With the following -dt gear you'll be capping melee stats, you can probably even use beserk (I do it on the raptor safely)


rigor

honed tathlum
Usukane +1
twilight
bladeborn
steelflash
Thaumas
Melee +2
dark
defending
mollusca
Black
Manibozho
Usukane +1

according to the SS, if you also get SV'ed minuetsx4, it puts you at 800 DPS with rigor and 900 DPS with oatixur on Tojil. With HF up that's 970 and 1090 dps. So if you have 4 monks with this gear on tojil and do 1 min of hundred fists > 6 minutes w/o HF you get

6*(970*60+800*6*60)= 2M HP in 7 minutes with rigor
6*(1090*60+900*6*60)=2,3M HP in 7min with oatixur

this is prior to considering other buffs suchs as COR or GEO.

Where the heck are you finding PUGs that are able to keep 6 songs and 4 rolls up while plasm farming? I'm lucky if I get 2 songs. It's a bit ridiculous to make statements based on almost perfect parameters, when often these are things out of our hands.

It is unrealistic to keep that up with PUG plasm farming indeed, I do agree.
But if your bard is having trouble keeping even 2 songs up during a regular fodder farming session where no swapping takes place you need to whip your support into better shape or make sure not to invite them for the next run you do.

And even with the standard proper farming buffs you should be able to easily average much higher WS numbers than 2750 on 5/5 Spirals.

In terms of the current strategy for monks on Tojil, are merits 5/5 Mantra and Formless? If so what a sad day for Penance :(