For The Shinies! A Guide For Thief

176/142, if possible.

By my calculations it'd be around 69% dual wield, trait is added in there so it'd be 44% from gear.

delay * 25% (haste reduction) * (total DW) (dw reduction) = 20
100 * (1 - .25) * (1 - x) = 20
100 * .75 * (1 - x) = 20
75 * (1 - x) = 20
1 - x = .2666666
x = .7333333

So you need 73.333% DW, rounded to 74%


Then you can check your math

100 * (1-.25) * (1-.74) = 19.5, which is just under cap.

Since we have natural DW, that's 74% - 25% = 49% DW from gear.

Are we sure leafslit on weapon is WS damage? I just threw 52 +1s on there and didn't get a single WSD augment. Also threw 25 leaftip+1s on there and also didn't get a single WSD augment.


Edit: Nevermind, it is. Started throwing +2s at it and got +4WSD. Stopping there until there are reports of WSDMG+5 being on dagger. Now to put some dex on there.

Highly doubt single handed weapons are going to go as high as 5%, considering the highest reported for a 2 handed weapon is 8% (only recently saw WSDMG+7% on the Nenekirimaru GKT)

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This is a link to the jp translated wiki. It says that wsdmg goes as high as 5% single 8% for 2handed, but its a work in progress. For example: It claimed +dmg went up to 15 single handed 30 double handed last week but now it says 2hand can go up to 36 and someone i know got +25dmg on club today. As far as wsdmg goes ive done several hundred attempts with leafslit +1/2 for DA on a few weapons without seeing WS dmg once. Then i tried 2 stacks of leaftip+1/2 and got +3wsdmg pretty quick, ill try for higher later on.
Google translate is kind of iffy with words but you can figure out what most of them mean for the most part.
Hit =accuracy
Sharpness=slit
Fine=tip
Japanese pampas grass =dim, you know just basic stuff.. >.>
Some of it just takes knowing what to expect to be on it to guess what the word means. Like how Hiinochi HiOsamu on fine stone means Ranged acc/atk. Hope it helps, its updated often.

Came back few weeks ago and its like I'm in an alternate universe.
EVERYONE ON THF. Anyway just before my break I made a vajra , rudra storm seems so dam powerful that building for aftermath seems like a loss is it still relevant?, and if is whats the best offhand atm for it?

For high level content, you can consider jugo kukri to reduce your delay, or izhiikoh/ipetam as offhand to increase your rudras dmg. If you can get high dex plus wsd, i think it would be the best. Extra att and acc would be the even greater.

If you're spamming Mandalic Stab at 1000% (which is ideal on most content, barring skillchains), I think WS damage would edge out crit damage. Ipetam with some strong augments should beat out both Jugo +1 and Izhiikoh for an offhand to Vajra. Izhiikoh beats Jugo +1 assuming you can maintain Aftermath, or more significantly if you need the extra accuracy.

Rudras dmg should represent ~65% of your total dmg. Wsd would favor evenly all ws, be it stacked or no. Crit dmg would favor rudra just if stacked, and not to mention the position limits sa or ta, that can make sometimes inviable to stack.

so the skirmish dagger everyone sees winning with solid augs then?
also if it really is 65% of my damage then my mind is blown, what did SE do lol

I think it actually depends mostly on how often you can/will WS, and also somewhat by what your TP/WS sets are looking like. It's the kind of thing that might vary by person, and every calculation I've run through my own gear has resulted in a very small win for WS damage. I ain't frettin' about it myself.

You people and your spreadsheets.

If you're at capped magic haste, appropriately geared and WS'ing as quickly as you should, if you happen to be the only DD, every other Rudra will produce darkness. The more DDs, the percentage of self darkness SCs will decrease proportionately. WSDmg will increase both the WS and the SC damage.

Furthermore, we already have 16% crit damage bonus naturally. 1.21 / 1.16 = 4.3. Since we don't have natural WSDmg, it's 4 wsdmg vs 4.3 crit damage.

Put down the spreadsheet and actually play the game already. It's meant to be a tool, not a guide. Gearing yourself based on the spreadsheet is like gearing yourself based on myffxigear.kicks-***.org.

Remind me again what stones to use to get these augements?

Snowslit for the Accuracy
duskslit for the +dmg?
and Leafslit for the WSD+ ??? or ???

I thought duskslit was the WSD+++ but what is the +dmg then?!?

Went through 50+ Leafslits now without seeing Crit dmg+ or Weaponskill sdmg+ ...... can anyone please reconfirm that leafslits are the stones to use for weapons skill dmg+ on Ipetam weapon???

I dont remember well what stone i used, but i used a jp spreadsheet info to get WSD (2% unfortunelly), and there, it was mentioned WSD is a shared slot from Leaftip and Leafslit (one is ranged and the other, melee), so i ended using tip as it was cheaper (more demand toward melee stats).

But remember those weapons were from old augment mentality, so it does sucks a lot. Be prepared to waste a lot of stones. I think i even used some +2 for some ***augments, something like wailing stones at its best.

yep leaftip did the trick...

I went through 52 leafslit+1 myself, and 25 leaftip+1 and didn't get WSDMG at all.

Went through 7 leafslit+2 and got it twice. Who knows, maybe they left it out when they nerfed the stones.

I got +16 DMG on skirmish dagger. Whats max? Used Duskslit +2.

Also, Can I use leaftip stone for WSD+5?
.. they are cheaper.

I don't have the gil to finish it yet.

Well said.