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By Remora.Brain 2013-11-13 16:18:37  
What's the biggest improvement ilvl Ragnarok, Yoichi, or Amano?

For reference, I have a Senbaak and an Azukinagamitsu as my current Weapons but I am looking into buying a Tsurumaru.
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By Gihl 2013-11-17 14:26:15  
i just got back to play sam again, any idea if these sets r good lol, all miki rank15 atk path

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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-11-17 14:43:09  
too much old gear in tp set, while i'm guessing it's also lower in dps you're taking a gigantic survivability hit from the defense(it does matter now)
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2013-11-18 05:14:54  
Put your Yaoi Helm and Otronif Boots on during TP, you're 1 Store-TP short of a 4-hit. (need +49 in gear)
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2013-11-18 05:51:06  
Gihl said: »
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Bladeborn / Steelflash Earrings
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2013-11-18 05:57:56  
Bismarck.Kuroganashi said: »
Gihl said: »
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Bladeborn / Steelflash Earrings
No, unless you're @300% TP, TP Bonus Moonshade/Brutal should out perform.
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By Remora.Brain 2013-11-18 16:00:18  
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Just got Tsuru and iLVL Yoichi last night. Need advice on WS set for Namas. Going to try for a Thall Mantle to replace Unkai Sugemino.
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-11-18 16:13:22  
Pretty much the best you can do at the moment. Buquwik cape would be the only piece to upgrade to. Should be pretty cheap on the Auction House by now.
 
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-11-18 18:45:11  
I have enough Rem's Tales to make Wakido Hands but I have to redo my AF quests first. :/ I'll get to testing them whenever I +1 them. And I actually overlooked the Ranged Attack on Wakido Haidate. They'd be a bit better if your cRatio is uncapped.
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-11-21 11:42:17  
Been playing with Wakido Kote, but I haven't figured out how they enhance Hasso yet.

Here's what they DON'T do:

Extra STR
JA Haste (Thanks to Byrth for the method of testing and formulas!)
Gear Haste
WSD% bonus
Remove increased casting/recast time on spells
Critical hit rate

Quite unfortunate on the JA Haste. Hopefully it's just broken! I'll try some more stuff later tonight.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-11-21 13:12:14  
Bismarck.Llewelyn said: »
Been playing with Wakido Kote, but I haven't figured out how they enhance Hasso yet.

Here's what they DON'T do:

Extra STR
JA Haste (Thanks to Byrth for the method of testing and formulas!)
Gear Haste
WSD% bonus
Remove casting/recast time on spells
Critical hit rate

Quite unfortunate on the JA Haste. Hopefully it's just broken! I'll try some more stuff later tonight.

Any chance they affect third eye recast or the amount of attacks you can evade? A pseudo HasSeigan?
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By Remora.Brain 2013-11-21 13:25:04  
What gear should I aim for as far as shooting for TP with Yoichi?

All RACC, 4hit, 5hit?
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2013-11-21 13:26:18  
Odin.Jassik said: »
Bismarck.Llewelyn said: »
Been playing with Wakido Kote, but I haven't figured out how they enhance Hasso yet.

Here's what they DON'T do:

Extra STR
JA Haste (Thanks to Byrth for the method of testing and formulas!)
Gear Haste
WSD% bonus
Remove casting/recast time on spells
Critical hit rate

Quite unfortunate on the JA Haste. Hopefully it's just broken! I'll try some more stuff later tonight.

Any chance they affect third eye recast or the amount of attacks you can evade? A pseudo HasSeigan?
I have an odd feeling it's an increase to Hasso's Zanshin rate...
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By Ramuh.Austar 2013-11-21 13:28:22  
Remora.Brain said: »
What gear should I aim for as far as shooting for TP with Yoichi?

All RACC, 4hit, 5hit?
why would you shoot for tp?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-11-21 13:29:56  
Probably a taru that can't reach!
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By Remora.Brain 2013-11-21 13:32:54  
I like to be prepared for certain situations. If I'm soloing in a WKR, I've died and want to contribute without being in range of AoEs, or just want to avoid dickish AoEs from future mobs.
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-11-21 15:01:21  
Shiva.Spathaian said: »
I have an odd feeling it's an increase to Hasso's Zanshin rate...
Was planning on checking this next. Won't be on until later tonight, though.
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By Ophannus 2013-11-21 15:46:23  
How about Save TP/ACC/Conserve TP?
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By Leviathan.Nitenichi 2013-11-21 20:49:09  
Anyway the ejekamal boots fit in a set?
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-11-21 21:16:51  
They're not very useful compared to Rank 15A Mikinaak and augmented Otronif Boots from what I've found. They might have a place in Amano sets since overflow doesn't do anything for Kaiten, but the STP on Mikinaak/Otronif is usually needed due to the low delay. Best for non-AM3 Shoha, though.
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By Leviathan.Nitenichi 2013-11-21 21:19:23  
/sadface i got them today quetz said could use on dark so all is not lost thanks Llewelyn
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-11-21 23:24:22  
No enhanced Zanshin on Wakido Kote. Doesn't give Counter. Didn't think it was Save TP but tested that anyway since it's easy and it's not that either.
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-11-22 05:54:14  
Looks like the Hasso enhancement might add 20 accuracy.

Used Atma of Hell's Guardian for 100% Zanshin and took the information from the last row of the "Extra Attacks" tab on kparser (specifically the "Acc. Rate of Second Attacks"). The sample size would be the "# DA w/Missed First".

Used Saotome Kote +2 (15 acc) for test 1 and Wakido Kote (19 dex; basically 15 acc) for test 2

Test 1:
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Melee Data

Player               # Melee Attacks    # Melee Rounds    Attacks/Round    # Extra Attacks
Llewelyn                        1937              1037                1                900

Player               # +1 Rounds   # +2 Rounds   # +3 Rounds   # +4 Rounds    # >+4 Rounds
Llewelyn                     900             0             0             0               0

Player               # MultiAttack Rounds    MultiAttack %     Kills w/Min Attacks    Kills w/<Min Attacks
Llewelyn                              900          86.79 %                       0                       0


Treat As:

Multi-attacks per attack (2x/3x):

Player               # Double Attacks    DA Rate    Perc. DA     # Triple Attacks    TA Rate    Perc. TA
Llewelyn                          900    86.79 %    100.00 %                    0     0.00 %      0.00 %

Multi-attacks per round (Kicks):

Player               Footwork?    # Rounds w/Kicks    Kick Attack Rate
Llewelyn                   Yes                 900             86.79 %

Multi-attacks per attack (Zanshin):

Player               # Missed First Attacks    # DA w/Missed First   Possible Zanshin %
Llewelyn                                850                    849              99.88 %

Player               Acc. Rate of First Attacks    Acc. Rate of Second Attacks
Llewelyn                                18.03 %                        31.57 %


Test 2:
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Player               # Melee Attacks    # Melee Rounds    Attacks/Round    # Extra Attacks
Llewelyn                        1453               796                1                657

Player               # +1 Rounds   # +2 Rounds   # +3 Rounds   # +4 Rounds    # >+4 Rounds
Llewelyn                     657             0             0             0               0

Player               # MultiAttack Rounds    MultiAttack %     Kills w/Min Attacks    Kills w/<Min Attacks
Llewelyn                              657          82.54 %                       0                       0


Treat As:

Multi-attacks per attack (2x/3x):

Player               # Double Attacks    DA Rate    Perc. DA     # Triple Attacks    TA Rate    Perc. TA
Llewelyn                          657    82.54 %    100.00 %                    0     0.00 %      0.00 %

Multi-attacks per round (Kicks):

Player               Footwork?    # Rounds w/Kicks    Kick Attack Rate
Llewelyn                   Yes                 657             82.54 %

Multi-attacks per attack (Zanshin):

Player               # Missed First Attacks    # DA w/Missed First   Possible Zanshin %
Llewelyn                                621                    621             100.00 %

Player               Acc. Rate of First Attacks    Acc. Rate of Second Attacks
Llewelyn                                21.98 %                        42.67 %


The second sample size is a little smaller 'cause JP were bugging me (was testing on Chukwa). I'll do a little more testing later, but pretty sure it has something to do with accuracy.
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2013-11-22 08:04:20  
Guess I'll be skipping Wakido then. 10 fewer items to farm, huzzah!
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By Remora.Brain 2013-11-22 08:33:35  
Does it work on activation or have to remain equipped to receive the benefit? Because 20 ACC is kinda huge for a buff that could be full timed.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-11-22 09:25:50  
when it's needed, maybe, but there are plenty of slots to pick up acc without losing haste.
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By Valefor.Mattyc 2013-11-22 09:27:23  
Equipment Modifying Ability...
Equipment Piece Modifier
Unkai Haidate +1 Gives ~1.5% Job Ability Haste with Hasso active.
Unkai Haidate +2 Gives ~2.5% Job Ability Haste with Hasso active.
Wakido Kote Gives ~?% Job Ability Haste with Hasso active.

i fooled around with, just hands on, and just legs on, hasso up with haste samba, same attack rate.

i wore gear capping haste with both unkai haidate+2, and another set with wakido, they both show same attack rate, no zanshin change, nothing, but in any case the 2 do not stack with the hasso enhancement, rather do the same thing.

i think this was a piece to open up a new 4/5 hit for us, which is pretty cool in my opinion, the fact we can use otronif brais "with DA+2" seems to spice things up a bit more.
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