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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-06-01 08:34:33  
Bismarck.Llewelyn said: »
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I've looked around in this Forum and I figured this would be the appropriate place to ask.

Does anyone have an Apex Arrow set? And what is the Hierarchy to stack? AGI > STR > RATT? Thanks!

This is what I use except for the feet which I'm 0/5 on:
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Apex even worth it?
With Yoichinoyumi, definitely not. With Speleogen Bow, though, with 5/5 merits it does a little bit more than a 99 Yoichi's Namas Arrow, but it's still worse if you're often given the opportunity to self-skillchain, since Apex doesn't skillchain with itself. One upside, though is no Yoichi Aftermath to interfere with your Masa/Amano/Koga if you choose to equip yourself with both bow and REM GK allowing for potentially strong skillchains. Once the REM buff comes around, I don't see any reason to have Apex merited at all unless you don't have a 99 Yoichinoyumi or REM GK.


Just for the record Yoichi doesn't really mess with Amano AM. The huge TP return from Namas is the same as the stp AM.
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-06-01 12:12:19  
I guess that's true!
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By Angeljcar 2013-06-03 17:21:23  
Does quint spear Namas Arrow (99) have any place for fodder content over amano?
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2013-06-03 17:25:23  
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Does quint spear Namas Arrow (99) have any place for fodder content over amano?
At this point you shouldn't be using yoichi or Amano I thought? Either that AH bow with Apex, or the new delve GK
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By Angeljcar 2013-06-03 17:28:53  
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Angeljcar said: »
Does quint spear Namas Arrow (99) have any place for fodder content over amano?
At this point you shouldn't be using yoichi or Amano I thought? Either that AH bow with Apex, or the new delve GK
With the rem boost coming i was curious how this did pre delve weapons and hopes that it will reach or exceed its former potential.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-06-03 17:54:36  
Angeljcar said: »
Ragnarok.Nemesio said: »
Angeljcar said: »
Does quint spear Namas Arrow (99) have any place for fodder content over amano?
At this point you shouldn't be using yoichi or Amano I thought? Either that AH bow with Apex, or the new delve GK
With the rem boost coming i was curious how this did pre delve weapons and hopes that it will reach or exceed its former potential.


Bow SAM is fun, but its actual supremecy is pretty limitted, sadly. After the update it will probably have mostly the same uses as before with the notable addition of a solid arrow SAM can use.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-06-03 18:05:24  
Angeljcar said: »
Ragnarok.Nemesio said: »
Angeljcar said: »
Does quint spear Namas Arrow (99) have any place for fodder content over amano?
At this point you shouldn't be using yoichi or Amano I thought? Either that AH bow with Apex, or the new delve GK
With the rem boost coming i was curious how this did pre delve weapons and hopes that it will reach or exceed its former potential.


Quint + Namas died around the 90 cap.

Fudo/Shoha/Kaiten(99) are all too good.

Amano/Yoichi had some use on very high lvl mobs with extreme buffs (legion) but with the new Delve weapons neither are worth using.
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By Asura.Kharlan 2013-06-11 15:58:22  
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Recommended merit build: 5/5 Store TP, 5/5 Meditate. 5/5 Overwhelm. 5/5 Ikishoten. Do 4/5 Ikis and 1/5 Blade Bash if your stunners are fail faces.

I've just started playing SAM, and was just wondering why it's recommended not to merit Zanshin Attack Rate in Group 1. I'd assume just because sTP and Meditate Recast are so good? It seems like it may almost not be worth it to merit Ikishoten without meriting Zanshin Attack Rate. I trust the recommendation in the guide, though.
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By Asura.Tamoa 2013-06-17 04:39:29  
So many pages to wade through - I'm going to be lazy and ask something that someone quite possibly asked before me, and if so I apologize:

I need some help making a Uguisumaru tp set, plain and simple. Unfortunately I'm missing some of the pieces mentioned in this guide, such as Usukane Somen +1, Usukane Haramaki +1 and Phos Belt +1 (let alone Pya'ekue Belt), and neither do I have Yaoyotl Helm. Even after I swapped out a few things (grip, ammo, back, ring) I have way too much sTP in my tp set, and I'm just wondering if there are any obvious changes I've missed.
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By Asura.Hotsoups 2013-06-17 04:54:07  
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Ring, can use Mars' or Ambuscade.
Back/Waist can use Atheling / Phos belt if accuracy is not an issue
Feet, Went path B Rank 2.

This is what I used before Usukane / Tojil stuff.
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By Asura.Tamoa 2013-06-17 05:03:20  
Soups gimme your Duplus Grip ok? ok!
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By Asura.Hotsoups 2013-06-17 05:10:49  
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Soups gimme your Duplus Grip ok? ok!

I only give out Duplus grips if I lose in 1v1 PvP!
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By Odin.Zelphes 2013-06-17 05:20:32  
Black Tathlum would be an option to use aswell for RCB-builds.
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By Asura.Tamoa 2013-06-17 05:49:22  
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Black Tathlum would be an option to use aswell for RCB-builds.

Yeah I know, have it in my wanted list on here lol ; ;



Asura.Hotsoups said: »
Asura.Tamoa said: »
Soups gimme your Duplus Grip ok? ok!

I only give out Duplus grips if I lose in 1v1 PvP!

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By Asura.Ryndo 2013-06-18 02:06:33  
Whats the augment on third eye? And are AF2+2 SAM legs worth getting?
also is prosilio belt the best waist option for Fudo/Shoha/Rana or is there better? (Minus ele gorgets/waist)
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By Ragnarok.Daffel 2013-06-18 04:15:56  
Asura.Ryndo said: »
Whats the augment on third eye? And are AF2+2 SAM legs worth getting?
also is prosilio belt the best waist option for Fudo/Shoha/Rana or is there better? (Minus ele gorgets/waist)

Counter+ is the Aug I believe on third eye and worth getting the relic +2 legs anyway as they are really cheap these days.

Prosilio belt is amazing for Fudo but don't use it for Shoha and Rana. Either use the ele gorgets when acc is needed or windbuffet/mala when acc is capped. Not seen a high end Rana set in a while though, will nose around the mythic users and see what they use xD
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By Ragnarok.Daffel 2013-06-18 04:16:42  
Asura.Tamoa said: »
Odin.Zelphes said: »
Black Tathlum would be an option to use aswell for RCB-builds.

Yeah I know, have it in my wanted list on here lol ; ;

I know this feel Q_Q
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-06-18 11:26:01  
Ragnarok.Daffel said: »
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Whats the augment on third eye? And are AF2+2 SAM legs worth getting? also is prosilio belt the best waist option for Fudo/Shoha/Rana or is there better? (Minus ele gorgets/waist)
Counter+ is the Aug I believe on third eye and worth getting the relic +2 legs anyway as they are really cheap these days. Prosilio belt is amazing for Fudo but don't use it for Shoha and Rana. Either use the ele gorgets when acc is needed or windbuffet/mala when acc is capped. Not seen a high end Rana set in a while though, will nose around the mythic users and see what they use xD

Saotome Haidate +2 add a significant amount of counter while Third Eye is up (estimated ~40% depending on who is testing it). If ever find yourself in a situation where you're getting your face pumped by a fast attacking enemey, a Seigan/Third Eye counter set is worth its weight in gold. Considering Journies go for like 4-6K across most servers, no SAM should be without these.

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Recommended merit build: 5/5 Store TP, 5/5 Meditate. 5/5 Overwhelm. 5/5 Ikishoten. Do 4/5 Ikis and 1/5 Blade Bash if your stunners are fail faces.
I've just started playing SAM, and was just wondering why it's recommended not to merit Zanshin Attack Rate in Group 1. I'd assume just because sTP and Meditate Recast are so good? It seems like it may almost not be worth it to merit Ikishoten without meriting Zanshin Attack Rate. I trust the recommendation in the guide, though.

Zanshin rate translates to 25% ZanHasso or 25% Counter, those are the real numbers you are worried about with Zanshin rate. So your total Zanshin rate should always be divisible by 4. If you are at like 62% zanshin, thats 15% counter/zanhasso rate. If you put 2 merits in Zanshin rate, you'd be at 64% or 16% counter/zanhasso. In this case, 2 merits are warranted. The issue is that the builds people are using now don't fit nicely into that formula and the Meditate recast (assuming you hammer meditate every chance you can) offer more DPS.

If your build leaves you a few % short of an even Zanhasso rate, a few merits in Zanshin aren't a bad thing at all. 5/5 Store TP is locked, though, so there are only 5 merits available in group 1.
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By Sylph.Traxus 2013-06-21 08:12:24  
Is any mikinaak gear (besides legs) worth getting for sam, if you don't plan to take them beyond the second upgrade? Will have usu +1 feet shortly.
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2013-06-21 20:42:20  
Not if you're not planning on eventually getting to rank15, no
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By Shiva.Tedril 2013-06-25 08:38:37  
rank 15 body best WS body?
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-06-25 08:39:23  
no
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By Valefor.Dpking 2013-06-25 13:28:14  
Why isn't it? What would be?
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-06-25 13:29:25  
Because Phorcys is better.
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By Valefor.Dpking 2013-06-25 13:37:16  
I think in delve the acc you get from the miki body is pretty valuable. Delve is really the only thing going lately worth doing so I'd use miki body and say its the best for endgame aka delve.
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-06-25 13:38:40  
There are many swaps you can make before changing body.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-06-25 13:46:40  
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I think in delve the acc you get from the miki body is pretty valuable. Delve is really the only thing going lately worth doing so I'd use miki body and say its the best for endgame aka delve.


No. SAM has 1hit - 2hit (high FTP first hit) WSs. Phorcys body should be one of the last pieces you'd swap out and if ACC was that low you have bigger issues.
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-06-25 13:54:43  
In order, accuracy swaps I'd make would probably be:

Letalis Mantle
Candent Ring
Ele Gorget
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Karieyh Sollerets
Mikinaak Breastplate

Not sure where I'd place Yaoyotl Helm.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-06-25 14:10:58  
Bismarck.Llewelyn said: »
In order, accuracy swaps I'd make would probably be:

Letalis Mantle
Candent Ring
Ele Gorget
Ele Belt
Karieyh Sollerets
Mikinaak Breastplate

Not sure where I'd place Yaoyotl Helm.

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				<head>Quauhpilli Helm</head>
				<rring>Candent Ring</rring>
				<ammo>Cheruski Needle</ammo>
				<neck>Ganesha's Mala</neck>
				<lear>Moonshade earring</lear>
				<rear>Burtal Earring</rear>
				<body>Phorcys korazin</body>
				<hands>Phorcys Mitts</hands>
				<lring>Pyrosoul Ring</lring>
				<back>Atheling Mantle</back>
				<waist>Windbuffet Belt</waist>
				<legs>Mikinaak Cuisses</legs>
				<feet>Karieyh Sollerets</feet>
			</set>
			<set name="*Shoha-ACChit-*" Baseset="*Shoha-Xhit-*">
				<neck>Shadow Gorget</neck>
				<back>Letalis Mantle</back>
				<waist>Shadow Belt</waist>
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-06-25 14:14:06  
You misspelled Brutal!

But yeah, I wouldn't go as far as to make all the swaps I listed in my post; just listed possible swaps one could make. Your acc shoha set is pretty much what I use, except I don't have Candent Ring 'cause I hate Meebles.
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