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By Quetzalcoatl.Bryangelos 2013-04-03 20:38:37  
Ok am i crazy or when Karieyh brayettes came out they were Karieyh brayette? did they add in the (s) in a update?
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By Shiva.Kinzu 2013-04-03 20:42:34  
Valefor.Angierus said: »
Prepare your jimmies, the GK that caused the hurt butt just spewed out an extra 4D.

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By Phoenix.Icemn 2013-04-03 20:42:35  
Quetzalcoatl.Bryangelos said: »
Ok am i crazy or when Karieyh brayettes came out they were Karieyh brayette? did they add in the (s) in a update?

Yes.
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By Odin.Judont 2013-04-03 20:42:39  
Quetzalcoatl.Bryangelos said: »
Ok am i crazy or when Karieyh brayettes came out they were Karieyh brayette? did they add in the (s) in a update?

They added an s yesterday during emergency maint
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By Valefor.Lisamarie 2013-04-04 21:38:01  
unkai neck piece still a decent piece for the slot? no mala, I think I tossed it a long while ago when i was doing my sandy clears when it first came out because I didn't thinkit was awesome.. a while after I've spammed him and nada :\
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-04-04 22:04:22  
Valefor.Lisamarie said: »
unkai neck piece still a decent piece for the slot? no mala, I think I tossed it a long while ago when i was doing my sandy clears when it first came out because I didn't thinkit was awesome.. a while after I've spammed him and nada :\

If you don't need the STP from unkai use Rancor Collar or Portus Collar till Mala.
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By Asura.Aineko 2013-04-13 00:26:55  
I suggest putting in this quick and dirty guide to Store TP. It should work until more STP is added via traits. If more Store TP gear is added, it simply will mean that the four-hit column might become applicable to some of the mid-range delay Great Katanas. I figured out the numbers for theoretical 3-hit builds, but they simply won't be possible without another +100ish Store TP, so didn't bother putting them into the already ugly table.

Here's some quick numbers for Store TP of a few common-delay GKs:

Assumption: lvl 99 Samurai, 5/5 Store TP merits, 0 Store TP in Weaponskill, one-hit weaponskill.

Ideally you will aim for 5-hit build. However, with a 480 delay Great Katana, a 4-hit is reasonable to make. 407/420 delay Great Katanas take a bit to 5-hit though, so fresh from Abyssea Samurais might use 6-hit build with the new craftable/Coalition Great Katanas temporarily, until they have a chance to upgrade some of their gear.

If you have Store TP in your weaponskill set, it can be counted towards this number by dividing by the number of hits, generally 5. Some WS pieces that have Store TP on them are Rajas Ring, Brutal Earring, Unkai Haidate +2, and Rose Strap if you're using that. Add it all up, divide by the number of hits, and add that number to your TP amount. This is a rule of thumb, so it could end up being 1 less than needed, but this gives you an idea of how much you will need without having to do the math yourself.

Delay_ 6-Hit_ 5-Hit_ 4-Hit
407 25 66 135
420 20 60 126
437 13 51 115
450 7 44 104
464 0 31 88
480 0 18 70
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By Sylph.Zenairis 2013-04-13 00:30:44  
Nice guide, it's good to see some people are still putting up some great guides for Samurai.
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By Sylph.Hyunkyl 2013-04-13 13:45:51  
Thoughts on Karieyh Haubert for Tachi: Shoha?

Karieyh Haubert Rare Ex
[Body] All Races
DEF:79 STR+18 DEX+18 Attack+25 "Double Attack"+2%
LV 99 WAR PLD DRK BST SAM DRG
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-04-13 13:53:32  
Sylph.Hyunkyl said: »
Thoughts on Karieyh Haubert for Tachi: Shoha? Karieyh Haubert Rare Ex [Body] All Races DEF:79 STR+18 DEX+18 Attack+25 "Double Attack"+2% LV 99 WAR PLD DRK BST SAM DRG


Phorcys still beats is because of the 7% weaponskill damage even though its only the first hit. If you don't have phorcys, Karieyh is the one to have.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-04-13 14:08:48  
Odin.Jassik said: »
Sylph.Hyunkyl said: »
Thoughts on Karieyh Haubert for Tachi: Shoha? Karieyh Haubert Rare Ex [Body] All Races DEF:79 STR+18 DEX+18 Attack+25 "Double Attack"+2% LV 99 WAR PLD DRK BST SAM DRG


Phorcys still beats is because of the 7% weaponskill damage even though its only the first hit. If you don't have phorcys, Karieyh is the one to have.


^ This. The only other deciding factor would be the ACC from Haubert but that would be a rare instance. There are other swaps you would make first and if they weren't enough you probably have Songs/Rolls to compensate for the crazy EVA.
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By Sylph.Hyunkyl 2013-04-13 14:11:06  
And for Stardiver?
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2013-04-13 14:16:41  
Sylph.Hyunkyl said: »
And for Stardiver?

same thing. unless you somehow really need the accuracy, at which point you would be using gkt instead so.
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By Sylph.Hyunkyl 2013-04-13 14:21:58  
Guess I just saved myself 25k bayld for more useful stuff xd
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By Leviathan.Kuryomi 2013-04-14 20:19:34  
so on sam merits i have
stp 5
meditate 1
zanshin rate 4

shikikoyo 1
blade bash 1
ikishoten 3
and overwhelm 5


the guide says not meriting zanshin rate, but dont that go directly (at half the %) to become a double attack with more tp/hit?
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-04-15 08:13:54  
Leviathan.Kuryomi said: »
so on sam merits i have
stp 5
meditate 1
zanshin rate 4

shikikoyo 1
blade bash 1
ikishoten 3
and overwhelm 5


the guide says not meriting zanshin rate, but dont that go directly (at half the %) to become a double attack with more tp/hit?


I use:

Stp 5
Med 2
Zanshin 3

Iki 5 (you want alteast 4 here)
OW 5
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-15 08:41:20  
In all the years I've played, I've never seen a sam use Shiki. Give tp to someone else? Pff, as if! Greedy sams!
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By Asura.Ina 2013-04-15 08:56:20  
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In all the years I've played, I've never seen a sam use Shiki. Give tp to someone else? Pff, as if! Greedy sams!
I couple of my LS members would do it back at 75 cap when there was downtime but that's all I've seen.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-04-15 09:00:39  
That's really all it is. Other than "Some *** is taking his sweet time swapping jobs before ein", I've only seen it used otherwise as "here take some tp since I'm running around weakened atm".
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-04-15 21:42:43  
I used shiki at 75 cap, but since the hassozanshin update, I got rid of it to put more into Ikishoten. I have 1 blade bash personally. I think that stun/plague is useful.

On to my question. What is the deal with sams using the trip+2 haste+5 byrnie from Bismark? I see sooooooo many sams use it over Unkai+2. What gives?
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By Odin.Hirokei 2013-04-15 21:46:05  
Odin.Eikechi said: »
I used shiki at 75 cap, but since the hassozanshin update, I got rid of it to put more into Ikishoten. I have 1 blade bash personally. I think that stun/plague is useful.

On to my question. What is the deal with sams using the trip+2 haste+5 byrnie from Bismark? I see sooooooo many sams use it over Unkai+2. What gives?
Cause most people run around thinking if it's newer than what they're wearing, it must be better.
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By Asura.Fondue 2013-04-15 21:49:07  
really? if you dont have +2 body and your other gear is suboptimal its better than a perle body and its free out of a vw box

again I dont think this is the case, nobody is like HOLY ***PORTHOS OMG MY 99RELIC SAM NEEDS THAT
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-04-15 21:54:42  
Asura.Fondue said: »
really? if you dont have +2 body and your other gear is suboptimal its better than a perle body and its free out of a vw box

again I dont think this is the case, nobody is like HOLY ***PORTHOS OMG MY 99RELIC SAM NEEDS THAT

Well I ask, the sam in question next to me has +2 gears and 2 95 relics. He has both Amano and Yoichi, but is sportin the byrnie. I simply asked because perhaps there was something I was overlooking. I just could have sworn the byrnie was essentially crap.
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-04-15 21:54:46  
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
In all the years I've played, I've never seen a sam use Shiki. Give tp to someone else? Pff, as if! Greedy sams!
I couple of my LS members would do it back at 75 cap when there was downtime but that's all I've seen.
Always had SAMs doing it at Kirin runs while waiting on the people going 0/15+ on teleporter. lol
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By Phoenix.Icemn 2013-04-15 22:40:40  
I used it last night while helping in NNI because I was weakened on floor 60 boss so I gave TP to the DRK <_<b
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By Carbuncle.Pwnzone 2013-04-15 23:27:00  
The only time I can remember it actually being useful was with my nni group on flan nms. Me(SAM) & the our other SAM would feed our TP to our BLU for Requie spam back to back & it'd go down ridiculously fast.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-04-15 23:56:43  
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Asura.Fondue said: »
really? if you dont have +2 body and your other gear is suboptimal its better than a perle body and its free out of a vw box again I dont think this is the case, nobody is like HOLY ***PORTHOS OMG MY 99RELIC SAM NEEDS THAT
Well I ask, the sam in question next to me has +2 gears and 2 95 relics. He has both Amano and Yoichi, but is sportin the byrnie. I simply asked because perhaps there was something I was overlooking. I just could have sworn the byrnie was essentially crap.

Early on in 99 cap it had a use in a capped haste 5 hit set before the zanshin adjustments and nni gear. Right before that there was a decent hybrid build using ogier's surcoat.

Outside of those 2 niche's, its never been good for SAM and someone holding 2 95 relics doesn't mean they know anything about the job, just that they have BST and free time.
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By Asura.Ina 2013-04-16 05:11:12  
So I missed the voidwatch bus and climb groups for the cities are proving... Rare. What options should sam be looking at until they can get Ganesha for tp neck, I saw Unkai mentioned but was curious if Rancor/Nefarious would be options as well.

My current neck is bad and I feel bad XD
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By Asura.Hotsoups 2013-04-16 05:22:28  
Bismarck.Llewelyn said: »
Asura.Ina said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
In all the years I've played, I've never seen a sam use Shiki. Give tp to someone else? Pff, as if! Greedy sams!
I couple of my LS members would do it back at 75 cap when there was downtime but that's all I've seen.
Always had SAMs doing it at Kirin runs while waiting on the people going 0/15+ on teleporter. lol

Omg I'm so glad they fixed that. At somepoint someone at SE was like... okay, that might have been an unnecessary *** move.
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