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 Odin.Zelphes
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By Odin.Zelphes 2013-03-31 15:22:41  
mattyc said: »
any thoughts on body vs. phorcys for shoha?
lots of things to factor in between the 2 but i wanted to see what others thought.

18 STR 25 attack and 2% DA Vs. 16 STR 5% attack and ws dmg+7%

scratching my head between the 2.

Given the fact Tenryu Hakama +1 (WS DMG+3%) beat Avant Cuisses +1 (DA+2%) for Shoha (marginally).

It's safe to say Phorcys body still stands king for Shoha.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-03-31 15:34:58  
mattyc said: »
any thoughts on body vs. phorcys for shoha?
lots of things to factor in between the 2 but i wanted to see what others thought.

18 STR 25 attack and 2% DA Vs. 16 STR 5% attack and ws dmg+7%

scratching my head between the 2.


Shoha has a heavily modified first hit. Phorcys winning.

Other WSs like Resolution the new bodies make a strong case. SAM however can stick to Phorcys.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Deeezy 2013-03-31 16:08:44  
Avant +1 legs or Karieyh brayette for shoha?
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-03-31 16:11:23  
Quetzalcoatl.Deeezy said: »
Avant +1 legs or Karieyh brayette for shoha?

this was basically answered on the last page. Tenryu+1 beat Avant and in some situations Karieyh beat Tenryu+1 (though not by much)
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By Quetzalcoatl.Krylon 2013-03-31 17:59:00  
To summarize for those who didn't see the last few pages:

Karieyh Hands are the new TP hands for SAMs that don't have Tenryu+1 (good majority of us)

Karieyh Feet are the new best WS feet for Kaiten/Fudo. They are second best for Shoha only behind Omadaka

Karieyh are best WS legs for all WS unless attack is capped. Attack capped is Tenryu +1 legs.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-03-31 18:55:04  
pretty major set of upgrades for me since i dont have any tenryu+1

ty se<3
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By Asura.Fondue 2013-03-31 20:44:38  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
pretty major set of upgrades for me since i dont have any tenryu+1

ty se<3

I still want tenryu pants for yoichi but very glad this stuff doesnt suck nuts

pants dont look as bad on taru as other races too!
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-03-31 21:08:28  
Quetzalcoatl.Krylon said: »
They are second best for Shoha only behind Omadaka Karieyh are best WS legs for all WS unless attack is capped. Attack capped is Tenryu +1 legs.

Or if accuracy is uncapped.
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By Asura.Hotin 2013-03-31 21:22:33  
Odin.Jassik said:
Unkai Sune-Ate +2 are still necessary for Segikori

It is not needed to WS in unkai sune-ate +2 for their enhance sengikori effect to be active and skillchain bonus doesnt cap at 50% like BG says~.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-03-31 21:37:46  
Asura.Hotin said: »
Odin.Jassik said:
Unkai Sune-Ate +2 are still necessary for Segikori
It is not needed to WS in unkai sune-ate +2 for their enhance sengikori effect to be active and skillchain bonus doesnt cap at 50% like BG says~.

Have any testing on that?
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By Asura.Hotin 2013-03-31 21:39:14  
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Deeezy said: »
Avant +1 legs or Karieyh brayette for shoha?

this was basically answered on the last page. Tenryu+1 beat Avant and in some situations Karieyh beat Tenryu+1 (though not by much)

I think last page test was for fudo~.
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By Asura.Hotin 2013-03-31 21:40:02  
Odin.Jassik said: »
Asura.Hotin said: »
Odin.Jassik said:
Unkai Sune-Ate +2 are still necessary for Segikori
It is not needed to WS in unkai sune-ate +2 for their enhance sengikori effect to be active and skillchain bonus doesnt cap at 50% like BG says~.

Have any testing on that?

I easily tested myself with light skillchain double kaiten it is easy to find out~.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2013-03-31 21:41:04  
I'm assuming both legs and feet are optimal for koga am3 shoha? I'm sure this was answered already, so forgive me for missing it.
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By Asura.Hotin 2013-03-31 21:43:32  
Quetzalcoatl.Krylon said: »
Karieyh Feet are the new best WS feet for Kaiten/Fudo. They are second best for Shoha only behind Omadaka

I doubt karieyh feet beat omodaka in most cases for kaiten/fudo.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-03-31 21:46:52  
Asura.Hotin said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Krylon said: »
Karieyh Feet are the new best WS feet for Kaiten/Fudo. They are second best for Shoha only behind Omadaka

I doubt karieyh feet beat omodaka in most cases for kaiten/fudo.

I don't. Higher attack and STR, and the DA isn't that big a deal for Kaiten
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-03-31 21:52:13  
Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
I'm assuming both legs and feet are optimal for koga am3 shoha? I'm sure this was answered already, so forgive me for missing it.
Karieyh legs are better. Omodaka still for feet.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Krylon 2013-03-31 22:47:52  
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Asura.Hotin said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Krylon said: »
Karieyh Feet are the new best WS feet for Kaiten/Fudo. They are second best for Shoha only behind Omadaka

I doubt karieyh feet beat omodaka in most cases for kaiten/fudo.

I don't. Higher attack and STR, and the DA isn't that big a deal for Kaiten

Same reason why you go light belt/gorget for Kaiten/Fudo over mala/windbuffet. Karieyh > Omadaka for those 2 WS.
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By Bahamut.Cantontai 2013-04-01 00:26:20  
Not sure if this has been asked (or if I am naive for asking) but does that new GK everyone is worried about *** over Amano/Yoichi owners? Because if so, that kind of *** up my long term plan...
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By mattyc 2013-04-01 00:50:26  
for SAM it is kinda scary to think about because it has highest base damage on GK, adding 8 STR to it makes me even more scared lol...beings SAM really isn't the best DPS job and bases output of damage on weaponskills, and skillchains, im a little worried myself after making my amano 99.....
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By Quetzalcoatl.Krylon 2013-04-01 06:50:06  
Yea.....

Curious to see how this plays out with all of the new weapons. There was a dev post somewhere about upgrading 99 relics though.
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By mattyc 2013-04-01 11:55:41  
yea i read something about that too, but would be lame if its like evolith type crap........vs. aquan +25 acc or something really shitty.

im thinking if they do let us upgrade we will need the fragment that our animated type mod drops, then synergy it for scraps, similar to sky gear, maybe get DMG+ STR or WS dmg+, somthing like that sounds reasonable.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-04-01 12:07:54  
mattyc said: »
yea i read something about that too, but would be lame if its like evolith type crap........vs. aquan +25 acc or something really shitty.

im thinking if they do let us upgrade we will need the fragment that our animated type mod drops, then synergy it for scraps, similar to sky gear, maybe get DMG+ STR or WS dmg+, somthing like that sounds reasonable.

I could get behind a system like this. That doesn't sound too bad, except the r/ex of the fragments. 1 day lock out on augments would suck ***.
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By mattyc 2013-04-01 12:12:49  
well, u could also have friends come help u kill, pay them for there time etc to hold other fragments etc. i just think this is the most reasonable solution if they do indeed allow us to further our augments, and with empyreans i think maybe the first stage mobs like carabosse for us sams etc. then tatter them for the gem scraps for same deal would be nice, hopefully SE does something to that effect. they need to really put thought into things after this update i feel like they kinda just put things together to be on time for there deadline lol.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Krylon 2013-04-01 13:07:09  
I think something like this could work well but the augments need to be pretty damn good to make the relics/empyreans match what seems to be very high damage rated weapons.

Who knows how much better these new ones will be once any upgrades/augments occur.
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By mattyc 2013-04-01 13:14:20  
ya the 140 base damage kinda pissed me off a little.....then they added +8 STR and bonus to SC...SE needs to die in a fire lol!
 
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By mattyc 2013-04-01 13:48:47  
what tactical mantle?.......i dont use that ***lmfao
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By mattyc 2013-04-01 20:31:20  
p.s. wtf is that supposed to mean anyways, i have seen your numbers on parses not impressed. rock that troll attitude.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-04-01 20:36:03  
No more random *** augments... I once saw a staff with Axe skill +3 on it...

You want a way to further upgrade RME weapons to compete with better and better drop weapons?

Make RME weapons upgraded through standard yet annoying trials.
Give us gear that drastically favors said weapons.
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By Odin.Hirokei 2013-04-01 20:43:54  
I think they need to add augments to Phorcys gear so it doesn't become null and void in the future.
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