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 Siren.Kalilla
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By Siren.Kalilla 2013-01-26 14:40:48  
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Where is this information from?
what information?
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By Bismarck.Kelhor 2013-01-26 14:43:39  
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Mookies said: »
Where is this information from?
what information?

Oh, is that how it is? WE HAVE WAYS OF MAKING YOU TALK.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2013-01-26 14:44:06  
:x *hides*
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By Quetzacoatl 2013-01-26 14:45:34  
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I prefer they take as long as they have to rather than making certain content nearly impossible
They actually take long time to release impossible rehashed content (1 or 2 years) then nerf it down for casual subscribers

ex: CoP, nyz isle .ect
Ffxi may have more content but it's all rehash and no variety unlike WoW. At least blizzard have the decency to finish 1 expan with new classes/voice overs/maps and races at once. This was not the case for Wing of the goddess that tooks almost 6 years of patching to complete

Did you just say 6 years? lol
it was an exaggeration
your mom's an exaggeration
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-01-26 14:45:39  
Actually they said that the embrava nerf will be extended to the NEW meeble paths, they didn't say they would extend it to the already released paths.
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By Bismarck.Kelhor 2013-01-26 14:48:37  
You know, if that's the direction they go with it - embrava working differently in newer content, while leaving it for the old - that'd actually be kind of awesome. Older stuff doesn't suddenly get harder for old rewards, new stuff can be designed appropriately without having to compensate.

They aren't going to do that, but it'd be interesting. Would be interesting to see what other zone-specific kind of changes they'd make.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-01-26 14:58:30  
Bismarck.Kelhor said: »
You know, if that's the direction they go with it - embrava working differently in newer content, while leaving it for the old - that'd actually be kind of awesome. Older stuff doesn't suddenly get harder for old rewards, new stuff can be designed appropriately without having to compensate.

They aren't going to do that, but it'd be interesting. Would be interesting to see what other zone-specific kind of changes they'd make.

I thought they said that new content would have the Embrava nerf as it comes out but EVERYWHERE would get hit by it in March. Since they are adjusting levels (and or attribuates) of like the mobs in NNI and Legion and Odin2, I think it is due to the adjustments to PD and Embrava. Your suggestion would be nice though.
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By Solrain 2013-01-26 15:05:38  
Bismarck.Kelhor said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Mookies said: »
Where is this information from?
what information?

Oh, is that how it is? WE HAVE WAYS OF MAKING YOU TALK.
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By Cerberus.Frotaut 2013-01-26 15:05:41  
Is a couple tick regain really gonna make or break anything worth fighting, I'm not understanding this whole fear of embrava/pd nerf. aside from maybe a 5 sec dif in perfect defense and no regain whats changing? Am i not seeing the whole picture here or something?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-01-26 15:06:42  
Dropping minuets for marches
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By Cerberus.Frotaut 2013-01-26 15:07:09  
didn't they say a 500 skill sch can still hit 25% haste?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-01-26 15:07:27  
25% isn't enough
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-01-26 15:07:50  
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Is a couple tick regain really gonna make or break anything worth fighting, I'm not understanding this whole fear of embrava/pd nerf. aside from maybe a 5 sec dif in perfect defense and no regain whats changing? Am i not seeing the whole picture here or something?

You're also missing the DRASTIC duration nerf Embrava is getting as well. At least that's what I read. It's getting cut into like 1/3 or some crap.
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By Cerberus.Frotaut 2013-01-26 15:08:52  
still i dont see a issue
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By Cerberus.Frotaut 2013-01-26 15:09:30  
the only thing getting cut on embrava is the caster time to use the spell..... if you can't embrava 1 dd party in 30 secs you should play a dif job.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-01-26 15:09:32  
Cerberus.Frotaut said: »
still i dont see a issue

That oh so lovely regen we get with embrava (and the enhances regen 5 potency from Tabula Rasa) won't really last long at all.
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By volkom 2013-01-26 15:10:06  
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Cerberus.Frotaut said: »
Is a couple tick regain really gonna make or break anything worth fighting, I'm not understanding this whole fear of embrava/pd nerf. aside from maybe a 5 sec dif in perfect defense and no regain whats changing? Am i not seeing the whole picture here or something?

You're also missing the DRASTIC duration nerf Embrava is getting as well. At least that's what I read. It's getting cut into like 1/3 or some crap.


5min to 1min 30 seconds :O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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By Cerberus.Frotaut 2013-01-26 15:10:14  
The regen is really the only thing about embrava i enjoy ^^ they better not mess that up.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-01-26 15:10:37  
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the only thing getting cut on embrava is the caster time to use the spell..... if you can't embrava 1 dd party in 30 secs you should play a dif job.

Might want to double check it. I could swear there is a massive duration cut, which will basically kill it's entire usage as well.
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2013-01-26 15:10:51  
Volk why XD
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By Siren.Kalilla 2013-01-26 15:10:53  
volk, why you break my page :(
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-01-26 15:11:03  
volkom said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Cerberus.Frotaut said: »
Is a couple tick regain really gonna make or break anything worth fighting, I'm not understanding this whole fear of embrava/pd nerf. aside from maybe a 5 sec dif in perfect defense and no regain whats changing? Am i not seeing the whole picture here or something?

You're also missing the DRASTIC duration nerf Embrava is getting as well. At least that's what I read. It's getting cut into like 1/3 or some crap.


5min to 1min 30 seconds :O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, that's what I'm talkin about, and it turns it into utter garbage :(.
By volkom 2013-01-26 15:12:13  
Ramuh.Laffter said: »
Volk why XD
Siren.Kalilla said: »
volk, why you break my page :(

needed to get the point across.
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By Cerberus.Frotaut 2013-01-26 15:12:28  
Effect duration will be reduced from five minutes to ninety seconds. I assume they are referring to the caster?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-01-26 15:12:53  
No, they mean the Embrava duration not Tabula Rasa's duration
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2013-01-26 15:12:59  
Cerberus.Frotaut said: »
Effect duration will be reduced from five minutes to ninety seconds. I assume they are referring to the caster?
It refers to the effect as a whole. I'm not sure how you're missing that.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-01-26 15:13:37  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
No, they mean the Embrava duration not Tabula Rasa's duration

lol yeah if Tabula Rasa was 5m it would be a pretty broken 2h considering the free stratagems you get lol
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By Cerberus.Frotaut 2013-01-26 15:13:47  
tabula duration on sch is 5 mins currently but the spell itself last for 10 w/o hands i don't see where SE says the spell's time lasting less time.
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By Cerberus.Frotaut 2013-01-26 15:14:08  
or i can't read, this is truly a possiblity
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-01-26 15:14:23  
You realize that 10 minutes isn't the base duration, right?
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