The 6th Ministry's Secret: A Summoner's Guide

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By Acacia 2014-10-11 16:19:28  
Cleric said: »
Random question: Does anyone have the snippet to put into gearswap so I don't change gears when conduit is active?
I have this to skip BP delay set in precast: https://github.com/svanheulen/ffxi-gearswap/blob/master/Acacia_SMN.lua#L109
I have this to spam BP rage: https://github.com/svanheulen/ffxi-gearswap/blob/master/Acacia_SMN.lua#L174
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By Cleric 2014-10-11 19:11:21  
Does your gearswap have an idle set that I'm not seeing, Acacia? I tried to cut/paste your little lines into mine, but I'm still new to GS, so I failed, so I'm just merging all of my gearsets into yours and I was nitpicky and realized it didn't have a generic idle set.
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By Acacia 2014-10-11 19:52:01  
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Does your gearswap have an idle set that I'm not seeing, Acacia? I tried to cut/paste your little lines into mine, but I'm still new to GS, so I failed, so I'm just merging all of my gearsets into yours and I was nitpicky and realized it didn't have a generic idle set.
Nope, I just use my perp set as idle.

Edit: I also have over 500 Summoning magic in my perp set so I use it for buff BPs as well. So you might need to change that.
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By Cleric 2014-10-11 20:00:25  
How would I go about adding an idle setup to that gearswap?

:( I can't seem to find a gearswap that does everything my spellcast used to do. And I don't understand code enough to write one myself.
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By Cleric 2014-10-11 20:07:44  


This is currently the one I use. I don't know where to put in your snippet about conduit. :(
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By Acacia 2014-10-11 20:22:01  
Give me a few to look it over and I'll send you a PM.
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By Cleric 2014-10-12 17:05:16  
Conveyance Cape Augments:

I have currently, BP damage +1, Skill +5, and Pet:enmity+11.. Would that be better than anything we currently have access to for different BPs? Keep in mind, I'm using Samianisi Cape for Physical BP, and Tiresias' for Magical.
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By Acacia 2014-10-12 17:38:39  
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Conveyance Cape Augments:

I have currently, BP damage +1, Skill +5, and Pet:enmity+11.. Would that be better than anything we currently have access to for different BPs? Keep in mind, I'm using Samianisi Cape for Physical BP, and Tiresias' for Magical.
The augments you got will beat Samanisi and Tiresias. Any amount of BP damage on Conveyance makes it the best cape for physical BPs. For magical damage BPs, Argochampsa Mantle is the best.
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By Cleric 2014-10-12 18:14:12  
Hmm- I need to figure out where to get that Argochampsa Mantle then! :) Thank you so much. Some guy on our run today said he got a BP Delay II -3 on his cape... /drool
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By TinyAttorney 2014-10-13 10:23:14  
Carbuncle.Papesse said: »
This is my main avatar TP set :
ItemSet 329393
I can cap perp cost with Nirvana, Hagondes Coat +1 (augmented with perp cost-5) and Evoker's Ring. Hagondes Pants +1 have Pet: ATK +23.
With this set my avatars are at 979 ACC, 986 ATK, 14% Haste.

Any reason not to use Hurch'lan Sash in this set?
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By Crevox 2014-10-13 10:31:04  
TinyAttorney said: »
Carbuncle.Papesse said: »
This is my main avatar TP set :
ItemSet 329393
I can cap perp cost with Nirvana, Hagondes Coat +1 (augmented with perp cost-5) and Evoker's Ring. Hagondes Pants +1 have Pet: ATK +23.
With this set my avatars are at 979 ACC, 986 ATK, 14% Haste.

Any reason not to use Hurch'lan Sash in this set?

Summoner can't use that.
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By TinyAttorney 2014-10-13 10:57:14  
Crevox said: »
TinyAttorney said: »
Carbuncle.Papesse said: »
This is my main avatar TP set :
ItemSet 329393
I can cap perp cost with Nirvana, Hagondes Coat +1 (augmented with perp cost-5) and Evoker's Ring. Hagondes Pants +1 have Pet: ATK +23.
With this set my avatars are at 979 ACC, 986 ATK, 14% Haste.

Any reason not to use Hurch'lan Sash in this set?

Summoner can't use that.

Meh, it's not the best reason I've seen, but....

We should start a separate thread dedicated to items SMN can't equip.
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By Acacia 2014-10-13 17:53:12  
Made a cure set with max potency that doesn't require the use of main weapon slot. Nice if you have Nirvana so your avatar's level doesn't change when you cure :)
ItemSet 329587
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By Crevox 2014-10-14 06:30:04  
Can Flaming Crush magic burst?
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By Creaucent Alazrin 2014-10-14 06:32:07  
No its not a pure magical BP.
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By Crevox 2014-10-14 06:34:45  
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No its not a pure magical BP.

Just trying to compare it to something like Lunge which can, but I guess Lunge is pure magic. I figured the hybrid portion of the first hit might be able to burst.
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By FaeQueenCory 2014-10-14 06:51:53  
Flaming Crush is considered as a WS for SC purposes... Idr its properties, but that's what we have wikis for. (Though I think it's just T1-fire.)
Only the pure magic BPs can MB, phys and hybrid BPs SC.
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By Crevox 2014-10-14 07:12:24  
FaeQueenCory said: »
Flaming Crush is considered as a WS for SC purposes... Idr its properties, but that's what we have wikis for. (Though I think it's just T1-fire.)
Only the pure magic BPs can MB, phys and hybrid BPs SC.

As far as I know, none of the 70 BPs can skillchain at all.
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By FaeQueenCory 2014-10-14 07:16:34  
They should. I know Predator Claws has SC properties (remember that big SC image?)... So Flaming Crush should too.
Not that BPs are really good for SCs.... But... It's something, y'know?
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By Crevox 2014-10-14 07:20:55  
FaeQueenCory said: »
They should. I know Predator Claws has SC properties (remember that big SC image?)... So Flaming Crush should too.
Not that BPs are really good for SCs.... But... It's something, y'know?

As far as I can tell, based on what everyone is saying, and based on my own personal experiences, you can't skillchain with the 70 BPs. When I leveled summoner solo with trusts, I skillchained with my avatar/magic bursted with it but 70 BPs would not work for skillchaining.

If you have actual evidence otherwise, that would be nice too, but also want to stay on topic.
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By Bahamut.Shirai 2014-10-14 07:55:40  
Level 70 Blood Pacts don't have and never had any skillchain properties, if SE had ninja'd it it in somewhere down the line the summoner forums would have exploded about it the day it happened.

And as far as that goes, this would be too large a change for SE to ninja it, the devs would have mentioned it somewhere.

As for the topic at hand; MBing Flaming crush... no clue! Even if it can, you'll never see it as a message in your chatlog.
It would need testing, very, very extensive testing and I don't think anyone has.
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By Crevox 2014-10-14 08:12:40  
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Even if it can, you'll never see it as a message in your chatlog.

Yeah, that's the hard part. :(
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By Acacia 2014-10-14 08:59:25  
Only BPs that consume the avatar's TP can be used to magic burst. Trying to magic burst with Flaming Crush would be like trying to magic burst with Sanguine Blade.
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By Crevox 2014-10-14 09:39:01  
Acacia said: »
Only BPs that consume the avatar's TP can be used to magic burst. Trying to magic burst with Flaming Crush would be like trying to magic burst with Sanguine Blade.

Or trying to burst with Lunge?
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By Acacia 2014-10-14 10:17:22  
Crevox said: »
Acacia said: »
Only BPs that consume the avatar's TP can be used to magic burst. Trying to magic burst with Flaming Crush would be like trying to magic burst with Sanguine Blade.

Or trying to burst with Lunge?
No, because Lunge isn't a weapon skill.
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By Acacia 2014-10-14 14:35:34  
I just realized that if you have Apogee active, using a BP on a monster will not cause it to aggro. I'm guessing this is a bug.
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By Siren.Noxzema 2014-10-14 14:47:32  
For the people that don't check the official forums.

Quote:
Nice changes are on the horizon for Avatar’s Favor!

The development team is currently looking into making it so instead of reducing the effect of Avatar’s Favor when executing a Blood Pact, it will actually become stronger, and this effect will increase proportionately with Blood Pacts that consume a higher amount of MP.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/44622-Avatar-s-Favor-still-lackluster?p=528383#post528383
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By Pantafernando 2014-10-14 14:54:35  
I was wtf? They did with avatar favor? My smn was drinking mp...

I hated this change, and want my perp cost down back...
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By Siren.Noxzema 2014-10-14 15:02:35  
It shouldn't be hard to beat the new cost with favor, seems you only need -16 perp cost to beat it (at least that's what I have, and I get 7 mp refresh with and w/o favor).
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By Siren.Noxzema 2014-10-14 15:55:36  
Anyone know which Favor tier list is more accurate/up to date?
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