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 Lakshmi.Venividivici
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By Lakshmi.Venividivici 2012-12-15 01:45:46  
Not able to log in at all with windower. since i got the last ffxi update. It will freeze at the accept/decline screen. Any clue as to whats causing this? I am able to run ffxi outside of windower mode. before the update it was running perfect
 Quetzalcoatl.Greer
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By Quetzalcoatl.Greer 2012-12-15 01:59:33  
"My friend" is having the same problem, please help me out...i mean him...yeah..him.
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 Bismarck.Cyrusskorrey
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By Bismarck.Cyrusskorrey 2012-12-15 02:00:37  
Im running windows 7 and i cant log in, it gets to the character select screen and crashes ; ;
 Lakshmi.Venividivici
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By Lakshmi.Venividivici 2012-12-15 02:06:37  
i just want to add to this that yes i have try all fixes posted in this other forum topic :
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/34918/dec-2012-fixes

I even try a new instalation
 Fairy.Ghaleon
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2012-12-15 02:17:30  
your best bet is to report this to the official forums and have one of them know. but GL on getting a quick response (and a fix at that) on this :/
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-12-15 02:28:04  
You could try Ashita.
 Lakshmi.Venividivici
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By Lakshmi.Venividivici 2012-12-15 02:34:50  
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
You could try Ashita.
ok had to google that and all i got from google was the meaning "tomorrow" but as i was heading to BGforum to post there as well stumble upon this :)
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/113777-The-Ashita-Project-goes-live!-(for-the-most-part)?highlight=windower
i will read about it and see thank you
 Asura.Mekaider
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By Asura.Mekaider 2012-12-15 02:49:17  
Have you updated your plugins yet?

Pretty sure the crash you're experiencing is because the pre 12/12 recast plugin doesn't work and windower is autoloading recast from the init file.

You said you can run FFXI w/o windower and your windowed version crashes at accept/decline screen which suggests you still have a broken plugin. It might be that it's a different one to recast but also set to autoload from the init. You could try removing the autoloaded ones and see if you have any success.
 Lakshmi.Venividivici
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By Lakshmi.Venividivici 2012-12-15 03:26:45  
Ok ii will try that again
before i do i am going to List the plugins I have in the folder

ConsoleBG.dll
Distance.dll
Recast.dll >>>>>>>>>>>>> Updated again to make sure
Silence.dll
SSOrganizer.dll
Timestamp.dll
TParty.dll

all of them are not being loaded by the ini file:
//load TParty
//load TimeStamp
//load SSOrganizer
//load Silence
load Recast
//load Distance
//load ConsoleBG
 Asura.Mekaider
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By Asura.Mekaider 2012-12-15 03:33:41  
Any luck?
 Lakshmi.Venividivici
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By Lakshmi.Venividivici 2012-12-15 03:39:49  
nothing
:/
upgrading graphic card drivers to see if that has anything to do with it most likely it does not.
 Asura.Mekaider
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By Asura.Mekaider 2012-12-15 03:57:19  
Are you just getting to the accept/decline screen and then getting POL.exe has crashed or however it goes? No error messages or anything?

I know you said you tried a new installation, was that FFXI and/or windower?

Edit: Been looking through the other thread of folks having issues and some have had success with a file check. Could try that.
 Lakshmi.Venividivici
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By Lakshmi.Venividivici 2012-12-15 04:10:09  
I'm able to input my password log on fine select play twice then as it is transferring from pol to accept/decline screen it stops on a white screen. No error message.
The new instalation was for windower

I was thinking of doing a file check trying that now .
 Lakshmi.Venividivici
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By Lakshmi.Venividivici 2012-12-15 04:14:00  
Resolt of file check
No problems were found.
 Asura.Mekaider
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By Asura.Mekaider 2012-12-15 04:20:52  
Did you run file check for both POL and FFXI?
 Lakshmi.Venividivici
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By Lakshmi.Venividivici 2012-12-15 04:34:07  
I think that was only for pol, how do i go about checking the ffxi files?
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By Asura.Mekaider 2012-12-15 04:44:26  
Hang on i'll log out and check exactly what the menus say.
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By Asura.Mekaider 2012-12-15 04:49:19  
Okay, in the login screen of POL there's a left hand column.

Click check files.

You'll then be taken to a screen which says check if there are any problems yada yada yada.

Around halfway down it says "Select playonline compatible software" and by default the playonline viewer is set to be checked.

Directly to the left of the playonline viewer setting there's a wee symbol that looks like an up and a down arrow.

Click that and it will list playonline, FFXI and tetra master.

Select FFXI.

Check files.
 Lakshmi.Venividivici
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By Lakshmi.Venividivici 2012-12-15 04:52:39  
Ahh it was a drop down menu got it :)ok that's more like it.
ok i am now checking the ffxi files.
Thank you for helping me out
 Asura.Mekaider
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By Asura.Mekaider 2012-12-15 04:55:36  
You're quite welcome. Just hope that it gets sorted for ya.
 Siren.Ihm
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By Siren.Ihm 2012-12-15 05:00:59  
You are remembering to Right Click > Run as Admin, right?
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By Asura.Mekaider 2012-12-15 05:02:19  
Siren.Ihm said: »
You are remembering to Right Click > Run as Admin, right?

Or right click > properties > compatability > check the run as admin box > apply.

That way you don't have to right click every time.
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By Phoenix.Cathaldus 2012-12-15 05:06:05  
Asura.Mekaider said: »
Siren.Ihm said: »
You are remembering to Right Click > Run as Admin, right?

Or right click > properties > compatability > check the run as admin box > apply.

That way you don't have to right click every time.

Strangely enough, that will stop Windower from working with Windows 8 so OP if you've set that to be the case try disabling it then running as Admin.
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 Lakshmi.Venividivici
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By Lakshmi.Venividivici 2012-12-15 05:06:34  
Final fantasy XI file check complete.
result of file check
no problems were found.

=(

yes I am running as admin by right clicking every time
 Asura.Mekaider
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By Asura.Mekaider 2012-12-15 05:13:16  
Phoenix.Cathaldus said: »
Asura.Mekaider said: »
Siren.Ihm said: »
You are remembering to Right Click > Run as Admin, right?

Or right click > properties > compatability > check the run as admin box > apply.

That way you don't have to right click every time.

Strangely enough, that will stop Windower from working with Windows 8 so OP if you've set that to be the case try disabling it then running as Admin.

That's weird and yeah, don't do that then.

Lakshmi.Venividivici said: »
Final fantasy XI file check complete.
result of file check
no problems were found.

=(

yes I am running as admin by right clicking every time

I'm all outta ideas. Your windower folder isn't in the FFXI directory is it?
 Lakshmi.Venividivici
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By Lakshmi.Venividivici 2012-12-15 05:16:53  
No its in desktop
 Asura.Mekaider
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By Asura.Mekaider 2012-12-15 05:18:29  
And when you reinstalled you got it from windower.net right?

Is your GUi set to the same resolution as your screen?

Scraping the bottom of the barrel now, sorry I aint been any help.

Edit:

And have you checked the x64 box in the GUI if you're running a x64 system?
 Lakshmi.Venividivici
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By Lakshmi.Venividivici 2012-12-15 05:24:37  
this is my launcher.ini

#Windower 3.3 Config File
#Final Fantasy XI window resolution
x-resolution = 1920
y-resolution = 1050
#PlayOnlineViewer Language (JP, US, or EU)
language = US
#Windower Console Key
console-key = insert
#------------Registry Settings For GUI Launcher-------
#all commands for gui must start with #
#commands prefixed with / will be ignored
#background-x = 2048
#background-y = 2048
#enviro-animation = 2
#texture-compression = 2
#mipmaps = 1
#maxsounds = 12


my screen resolution is 1920 x 1080
yeah also checked the x64
 Asura.Mekaider
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By Asura.Mekaider 2012-12-15 05:37:06  
After googling I've found that some people have had success with settings their Launcher GUIs to true fullscreen and having windowed mode enabled in FFXI Config.

Is your login on your computer an administrator login?

Edit: Do you have any compatability settings for windower/pol/ffxi? I read that any compatability settings whatsoever causes crashing on win8. Not just having run as admin checked.

Edit 2: I just logged back in and looked at what windower actually does at the time of the crash. Now with this sort of stuff I don't really know much but aside from loading plugins it loads MMF input from keyboard, or something along those lines. Do you have that enabled?
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By Asura.Mekaider 2012-12-15 05:51:38  
Fenrir.Scragg said: »
I believe FFXI w/o windower works fine on win8 unless you are not doing a clean install and moving from XP or below. Windower is unique in that it is a hook for POL/FFXI and extends the functionality. It will read memory of the hooked process and intercept windows API calls. A windower dev can correct me if I'm wrong there. I believe this is why Windows requires Windower to be run as admin. A stricter default security policy by the OS can break stuff.

From what I learned, a clean install of both Win8 and FFXI is the best way to go if you are looking to upgrade to Windows 8.

From a different thread, won't link the thread as it's not worth reading and was quickly re-railed. I don't know if any of the above is relevant to you?
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