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 Lakshmi.Byrth
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-12-12 13:40:34  
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/User_talk:Cairthenn

Skadi's Armor Upgrades:

Lv. 99 THF/BST/RNG/COR/DNC

Skadi's +1
Set: Increases rate of critical hits
Head: DEF:37 DEX+13 AGI+13 Attack+10 Ranged Attack+10 "Store TP"+4 Haste+7%
Body: DEF:65 DEX+12 AGI+12 CHR+12 Accuracy+14 Attack+14 Ranged Accuracy+14 Ranged Attack+14 Enhances "Dual Wield" effect "True Shot"+1
Hands: DEF:32 STR+8 AGI+8 Attack+12 Ranged Attack+12 Haste+4% Pet: Haste+3%
Legs: DEF:52 Accuracy+7 Attack+17 Ranged Accuracy+7 Ranged Attack+17 "Store TP"+8
Feet: DEF:30 STR+5 VIT+5 Accuracy+7 Ranged Accuracy+7 Increases movement speed

Sigyn's
Head: DEF:35 Attack+14 "Suble Blow"+4 "Triple Attack"+2% Haste+6%
Body: DEF:63 Accuracy+15 Ranged Accuracy+15 "Subtle Blow"+5 "Triple Attack"+3% Haste+4%
Hands: DEF:31 STR+8 AGI+8 Ranged Accuracy+12 Ranged Attack+12 Marksmanship skill +6 Enmity-5
Legs: DEF:51 DEX+8 CHR+8 Accuracy+10 "Store TP"+5 Haste+5%
Feet: DEF:29 STR+7 DEX+7 VIT+7 AGI+7 Evasion+8 Haste+4% Pet: Evasion+5

Bolded the ones I feel may have some use for us.
Italicized the ones I feel have no use for us.
Didn't stylize the ones that are confusing or blah.

What say you?

Edit: Obviously the body would have to have 10% DW to be useful for us.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-12-12 13:44:47  
You forgot to bold Skadi+1 feet!

Possible 18% movement speed!

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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-12-12 13:54:45  
I figured that they're likely 12%, in which case they're just a defense upgrade from our current Crackows.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-12-12 13:57:59  
Probably, but one can dream.
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By Fenrir.Thandar 2012-12-12 14:09:21  
inb4 25%
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By Phoenix.Icemn 2012-12-12 14:28:21  
Edit: I'm an idiot, this is a DNC thread. Sorry. LOL
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-12-12 15:04:56  
I wonder what the Skadi +1 set bonus will be. I'm hoping for 10% crit rate at least!
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-12-12 15:05:22  
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
I wonder what the Skadi +1 set bonus will be. I'm hoping for 10% crit rate at least!
per piece!
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-12-12 15:06:07  
I'd be downright shocked if the body is 10% DW considering the rest of the gear + the jobs that can use it.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-12-12 15:10:40  
Really wish the legs kept the haste on them.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-12-13 04:10:10  
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
I figured that they're likely 12%, in which case they're just a storable upgrade from our current Crackows.

ftfy
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-12-13 08:57:27  
I would have loved it if we could have gotten a single solid Pyrrhic Kleos piece out of those sets. Sigyn feet are a slight upgrade from Kacura +1, which might be better than Thaumas nails if I could get my hands on Khepri Kecks.

Made these for ease of comparison:
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Sigyn%27s_Armor_Set
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Skadi%27s_Armor_Set_%2B1

Will make ones for the other sets after a few meetings.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-12-14 21:07:12  
http://wiki.ffo.jp/html/27612.html

English Localization is wrong on Skadi's Chausses +1. They also have 6% Haste.

Rare Ex
防52 命中+7 攻+17 飛命+7 飛攻+17
ストアTP+8 ヘイスト+6%
コンビネーション:クリティカルヒット+
Lv99~ シ獣狩コ踊

Accuracy+7 Attack +17
Ranged Accuracy+7 Ranged Attack+17
Store TP +8 Haste +6%
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-12-14 21:08:32  
Just became an awesome TP piece.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-12-14 21:12:27  
Wow, yeah. That might be my new top priority.
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By Bismarck.Kelhor 2012-12-14 21:17:39  
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Really wish the legs kept the haste on them.

Wish for something else good now, damnit.

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By Leviathan.Kincard 2012-12-14 21:46:19  
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
http://wiki.ffo.jp/html/27612.html

English Localization is wrong on Skadi's Chausses +1. They also have 6% Haste.

Rare Ex
防52 命中+7 攻+17 飛命+7 飛攻+17
ストアTP+8 ヘイスト+6%
コンビネーション:クリティカルヒット+
Lv99~ シ獣狩コ踊

Accuracy+7 Attack +17
Ranged Accuracy+7 Ranged Attack+17
Store TP +8 Haste +6%

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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-12-14 22:15:24  
They still only beat Thaumas sometimes!
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-12-14 22:17:11  
This update makes DNC tp sets a lot more complicated, so I have to throw away everything I've written for the DNC thread and start over from the ground up.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-12-14 22:23:31  

Skadi pieces are +1 versions.

Would probably be the "standard" set now. Ammo/Head/Legs are going to be mob, weapons, and SD dependent.
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By Bismarck.Kelhor 2012-12-14 22:24:19  
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
This update makes DNC tp sets a lot more complicated, so I have to throw away everything I've written for the DNC thread and start over from the ground up.

Really? I mean, I don't doubt you, but I hadn't realized the scale of the changes was that large for DNC. Was it any one thing, or just the Salvage sets overall adding so many wrinkles that you have to go back to square one?
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-12-14 22:27:01  
Before our sets basically changed based on whether or not saber dance was up and whether or not we had marches. '~'
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-12-21 23:25:38  
>:/

I have 41 Umbrage Plans and 5/5 Skadi, but only the head of the Idi's set. I don't think I can justify making either head as my first piece, and I'm not really convinced Sigyn would beat Khepri as a TP head anyway.

Skadi's Visor +1 might be cool as some kind of hybrid set evasion head, but Bendis's Hairpin (which I'll never get) pretty much blows it away. It *might* be useful in an Evisceration set someday if the Skadi +1 set bonus is fractional (unlike the original set).

Well, I guess I'll see how many Umbrage Plans she can store.

PS. If I see another Namru's Tiara I'm going to tableflip all of the Khims and give up on Salvage forevers.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-12-25 08:31:44  
I was playing around with the spreadsheet today and tried to figure out where these pieces fit into our sets. I get these sets being optimal for capped delay (double Marches+3 +Haste+Samba+Boost-STR+Saber Dance) with Terpsichore against Dynamis DC as a Taru DNC/THF with RCBs:

TP:
Terpsi/Twash/____/Potestas
Khepri/Rancor/Ghillie +1/Brutal
Thaumas/Skadi+1/Epona's/Rajas
Atheling/Windbuffet/Skadi+1*/AF3+2
* Thaumas is better when building to 300 TP, for some reason.

WS (PK):
Terpsi/Twash/____/Potestas
Khepri/Justiciar/Ghillie+1/Brutal
Toci's/Myrmex/Pyrosoul/Rajas
Atheling/Wanion/Khepri/Thaumas


I've noticed that I can self-skillchain most of the time at capped delay with Terpsi/Twash and AM3 without even using Reverse Flourish. I'm going to have to play around with Wild Flourish when I get back and see if I can come up with a three-step skillchain that's worth doing. On most things it won't be even if it works because they don't have enough HP, but it might be fun to do on monsters that can survive it.

I also get that double Marches (599 max DPS) > March/Minuet (575 max DPS) in this situation. I guess we finally have enough other gear to balance it out. My max combined DPS with these buffs, including re-building AM3 and ignoring all JAs, is 586. Switching to Arrabiata and changing nothing else lowers it to 576.




Edit:
Also, without Marches under the same conditions I'm getting that Skadi +1 or Thaumas is better than Etoile +2 all the time.
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By Sylph.Peldin 2012-12-25 08:59:44  
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
I was playing around with the spreadsheet today and tried to figure out where these pieces fit into our sets.
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Terpsi/Twash/____/Potestas
Khepri
Who has this set besides you? lol =D
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-12-25 09:18:58  
:3

People might be building Terpsi! Also, I got Khepri head for only 25mil.

I started looking at Evisceration sets and I find this to be the ideal for me:
Terpsi/Twash/____/Charis
Khepri/Justiciar/Moonshade(TP/ATK)/Brutal
Toci/Myrmex/Rajas/Thundersoul
Rancorous/Cuchulain/Khepri/Thaumas

I expected 4/5 Thaumas to win, but this is the victor by about 100 points. This is probably because of the Attack.
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By Sylph.Peldin 2012-12-25 09:25:12  
If you're bored and wanna fiddle around with the spreadsheet, could you tell me if the neo salvage gear will replace anything in my dynamis farm set? Getting double marches + haste.

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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-12-25 09:33:38  
I'd need your Exenterator set, race, merits, food, etc. to actually look at it, but these things are probably true:
* Thaumas Kecks are likely better than Etoile +2 legs with your current setup (+5 STR/DEX from set bonus).
* Skadi +1 hands are probably better than Thaumas.
* After you do that, Skadi +1 legs might be better than Thaumas.
* After you do that, you would be better off going with Windbuffet/Charis +2 feet.

Nematoma Cap actually comes out better than Khepri for TP in the spreadsheet because DEX is doing nothing for me against the generic DC Dynamis monster and Attack+7 would do something. I know I don't auto-cap crit rate even against everything DC though, so I'll keep Khepri. Khepri Legs seem almost not worth augmenting.
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By Sylph.Peldin 2012-12-25 21:34:38  
Exenterator



Race - Mithra
Merits - standard melee merits
Food - RCB
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-12-25 21:49:35  
I may get Khepri losing more often because I'm Hume. Also my Terpsichore isn't done so I'm using either Thokcha or Coruscanti offhand which marginalizes Khepri's bonuses if you're getting close to cap.
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