You also errorenously thought up of a fantasy where I compared FF to TERA. Pointing out the traits of either is what I did, and the interpretation of said information is not mine to make for you.
Its staff listens to player suggestions and draw the line when suggestions become absurd. Until recently, SE staff did not.
Following todays translation of upcoming overhauls to FF, I am very interested to see where it ends up going. If they take the same route with 14 revamped, I anticipate it will be a success.
"Another Mistake Like FF14 Would "Destroy" Square"
"Another Mistake Like FF14 Would "Destroy" Square"
They are definitely not going to overhaul the game engine for 11, like they are doing with 14.
Valefor.Savain said: »
Following todays translation of upcoming overhauls to FF, I am very interested to see where it ends up going. If they take the same route with 14 revamped, I anticipate it will be a success.
Your expert analysis is definitely appreciated!
I'm surpised that ffxi is not free-to-play atm. maybe it's because japanese developers have no experience in that area?. they are still making some mad money with subs based fees tho. but it could be better if free-to-play. 12.99 is quite expensive for a game that doesn't even have pvp/ very old
Latifah said: »
I'm surpised that ffxi is not free-to-play atm. maybe it's because japanese developers have no experience in that area?. they are still making some mad money with subs based fees tho. but it could be better if free-to-play. 12.99 is quite expensive for a game that doesn't even have pvp/ very old
No it wouldn't be better, go away.
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not to troll, or incite an arguement, but I feel like if the next single player title is similar to 13, it would "destroy" square-enix in this fans' mind. nevermind stupid 14.
FFXIII-3: Lightning Returns is in the works :x *sighs*
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
FFXIII-3: Lightning Returns is in the works :x *sighs*
I'm lumping the sequels in with the original in my mind, so it's not as painful, but ya I was aware of that one too.
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Latifah said: »
I'm surpised that ffxi is not free-to-play atm. maybe it's because japanese developers have no experience in that area?. they are still making some mad money with subs based fees tho. but it could be better if free-to-play. 12.99 is quite expensive for a game that doesn't even have pvp/ very old
No it wouldn't be better, go away.
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
FFXIII-3: Lightning Returns is in the works :x *sighs*
Siren.Mosin said: »
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
FFXIII-3: Lightning Returns is in the works :x *sighs*
I'm lumping the sequels in with the original in my mind, so it's not as painful, but ya I was aware of that one too.
I'm pretty sure SE planned on FF13 being a 3-parter before the first one even released.
That said, I have Part 1 and Part 2 sitting on my shelf still in their shrink-wrap... I'm diehard enough to buy em, but because of the generally poor reception I haven't brought myself to play them yet :x
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Phoenix.Valory said: »
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
FFXIII-3: Lightning Returns is in the works :x *sighs*
I struggled though quite a few hours of 13 before I said to myself "huh, I can watch a movie without mashing X, this is stupid"
Lightning looks cool, but has the most boring personality ever. Does she smile at all? Christ.
To be fair, the first few hours of every FF is spent mashing X.
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
To be fair, the first few hours of every FF is spent mashing X.
not really.
exploration was a large part of other titles.
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***, some parts didn't even give you a clue as to where to go other than "head west"
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gdi I didn't want to get into this arguement again. I realize some people liked 13. that is fine. I am just not one of those people.
Siren.Mosin said: »
not to troll, or incite an arguement, but I feel like if the next single player title is similar to 13, it would "destroy" square-enix in this fans' mind. nevermind stupid 14.
While a mainstream single-player FF title doing poorly would be bad for the company, that is still one amongst many titles that is meant to be released once, get hyped, sold, and then move on, so to speak. Even if XIV ended up with a mixed reception like XIII did, an MMO tanking is far more catastrophic because developers shouldn't ever expect to recuperate all their money into an MMO through box sales alone.
Leviathan.Kincard said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
not to troll, or incite an arguement, but I feel like if the next single player title is similar to 13, it would "destroy" square-enix in this fans' mind. nevermind stupid 14.
I understand that. I was speaking to my own opinion, not fiscally.
Nah, I get that. I'm not sure why you would take that attitude though, Final Fantasy is one of the strangest series in existence in that every numbered title is so radically different from the last. This is both a good and a bad thing.
Avitori said: »
Lightning looks cool, but has the most boring personality ever. Does she smile at all? Christ.
Because FF characters haven't often come with mopey personalities.
Leviathan.Kincard said: »
Nah, I get that. I'm not sure why you would take that attitude though, Final Fantasy is one of the strangest series in existence in that every numbered title is so radically different from the last. This is both a good and a bad thing.
touche'
I guess I'm just hoping that 15 isn't even a shadow of crap-o 13.
again, I realize my opinion is not fact, nor is it even a majority. I'm ok with that.
FFXIII sucked, FFXIII-2 was awesome.
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I'm sure this has been mentioned somewhere in the last 7 pages, but @OP: That's incredibly unsurprising news. It's surprising that FFXIV didn't kill SE already, making those mistakes again would obviously be fatal.
@the FFXIII debate: I only recently bought it, hated everything about it until around the end of disk 2 where I started to only dislike it a bit. By the time I finished it and played a little end-game I thought it was kinda ok, that's about it. Exploration is 99% non-existent, story is pants-on-head HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, acting is annoying as ***, battle system is HORRIBLE, leveling up system gives only a tiny amount of control, and no control at all in end-game, pre-emptive system is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE because mob's agro AI is *** in the head, and you can get through the entire game without ever getting to ride a chocobo. Oh, and once you do get to ride one, they're *** pointless too, I think they only unlock one area.
Can't imagine why I'd bother with -2 or -3, haven't all FF sequels (aside from tactics) been ***? It doesn't worry me about the future of FF though, as someone said, they're all so different from each other, 15 will (probably) be a ***load better than 13. (and hopefully 14ARR won't be ***)
F2P games make their money off in-game micro transactions, they lure people into playing the game because it's free, get them addicted because that's what MMOs are designed to do, and then "force" people into spending real money to get better gear so they can compete with (or against) the people around them. Changing FFXI's game model to a F2P model would bring in very few new people to the game, and would just piss off and alienate most of the serious players who have everything when they find out that the only way to get that new piece of gear is to buy it with real money.
@the FFXIII debate: I only recently bought it, hated everything about it until around the end of disk 2 where I started to only dislike it a bit. By the time I finished it and played a little end-game I thought it was kinda ok, that's about it. Exploration is 99% non-existent, story is pants-on-head HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, acting is annoying as ***, battle system is HORRIBLE, leveling up system gives only a tiny amount of control, and no control at all in end-game, pre-emptive system is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE because mob's agro AI is *** in the head, and you can get through the entire game without ever getting to ride a chocobo. Oh, and once you do get to ride one, they're *** pointless too, I think they only unlock one area.
Can't imagine why I'd bother with -2 or -3, haven't all FF sequels (aside from tactics) been ***? It doesn't worry me about the future of FF though, as someone said, they're all so different from each other, 15 will (probably) be a ***load better than 13. (and hopefully 14ARR won't be ***)
Latifah said: »
I'm surpised that ffxi is not free-to-play atm. maybe it's because japanese developers have no experience in that area?. they are still making some mad money with subs based fees tho. but it could be better if free-to-play. 12.99 is quite expensive for a game that doesn't even have pvp/ very old
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Cerberus.Tidis said: »
FFXIII sucked, FFXIII-2 was awesome.
Odin.Eikechi said: »
They are definitely not going to overhaul the game engine for 11, like they are doing with 14.
Asura.Ina said: »
Cerberus.Tidis said: »
FFXIII sucked, FFXIII-2 was awesome.
Odin.Eikechi said: »
They are definitely not going to overhaul the game engine for 11, like they are doing with 14.
Spoilered the stuff that obviously needed spoiler tags (for their intended purpose!)
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
I said it from day one: if they just had consolidated the budget into FFXI, they'd have a fully functioning MMO with tons of content, and they wouldn't have suffered nearly as much damage or shame. Maintain one MMO until its death, while carrying on with their single player titles. They were too ambitious with XIV.
FFXI is dead no one going to play it even if they make a FFXI 2 it would only draw in the people who play FFXI. If they don't make a new game with new idea and storyline like FFXIV with new battle system and a new storyline they would not draw in new people.
FFXI is dead it's time to move on i enjoy that game for 6years now it noting but a shell of itself.
FFXI is not dead. It has a lot more subs than FFXIV had before it shutdown. Obviously, FFXIV wasn't drawing anyone in, either. Hopefully ARR will succeed. That doesn't mean FFXI is dead, or WoW is dying, like you loved to claim in the past.
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