All People Banned From FFXI Will Be Banned From FFXIV

what's happen to you poor TB, you can't play FF14 coz u get banned from FF11 ? lol!

as long they use a new credit card with a different name / address they can return /make a new account play ff14

FFXIV won't be using Playonline. So a banned POL account doesn't mean ***to the new game. If anything it might deny your friend list and name transfer but even that's doubtful.

they play this game called ban by IP address block that and you cant connect to there servers as for rmt remaking accts there prolly using proxys.

Also pretty easy to get around from what I've been told.

Now im not 100% sure on this but if you connect to the internet in something like a University is that not all run off one IP address? So if one account was to get banned via IP address then everyone else would be banned.

I also only think they ban via Credit Card and any accounts attached to that card are also banned even if it's not the account that did wrong. Had few friends who lost accounts this way.

There are ways of changing your IP address or using other peoples or so a friend who plays tells me

This actually wouldn't surprise me, although I have no confirmation. SquareEnix would not be the first to do this. Sony Online, Electronic Arts, and other companies have also done "platform-wide" bans in the past.

Once you've proven yourself to be a bad customer, companies no longer want your business, regardless of which game it might be. $15/month doesn't buy a whole lot -- less than 1 hour of one GM's time, if that. If you've proven to cost them more than you give, you can't blame them for rejecting further business with you.

I believe this more than I believe Thunderblaze tbh.

Basic Business 101: Get rid of costs and keep the revenue. If Thunderblaze is a cost, kick him and keep him from coming back ever again.

Hard to apply but simple in practice

but like I say,

if someone wants something real bad they will do w/e they can to achieve it

so bad guys will go around da protection to get back in FF

I don't think this will happen. I know SE does have the capability of this because they used to ban every account that ever once used a credit card that was used at any point by a banned account, however, they haven't done this recently to my knowledge.

The salvage bans only hit the accounts that actually committed the offense. People who got banned who had other accounts using the same personal information and/or credit card that did not take part in the exploit were completely unaffected. They could very easily have banned these accounts as well but did not. To this date, I don't know of a single person affected by the salvage bans who have had these accounts get banned at a later date for merely being the same person. I also had a friend a year or so back who got a mule account banned by the STF for "RMT activity", and they did not close any of his other accounts even though they shared the same credit card.

There was also this post on allakhazam of a chat log excerpt of a GM stating that there is no rule against coming back to the game on a new account if you have been previously banned and that each account is treated as a separate person: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10;mid=1241469667131577780;num=30;page=1

If this is the case, anyone who got banned from FFXI shouldn't have anything to worry about if they wish to start up on FFXIV or restart FFXI even if they use the same billing info.

Wouldn't effect me anyway, so it's alllll gooooood.

Not working. As for me for example, dont have a credit card, but using an online credit card. I can pretty much get an infinite different credit card numbers per day using it. Every time you wanna pay with it, it generates a new nr.

Kaeko certainly is playing again if under a different anonymous name...

Also This

Whats up Thunderblaze? not enough attention on your "new server" <cough banned>

so whatever happened to internet IP banning? yea there's ways around that too but at least it's another hurdle banned peeps have to jump...

In order for that to work you have to assume that ppl have static IP adress, where I live I have dynamic IP adress that changes a couple of times every day.

True, I'd forgotten about that. I've static here that's why :/

FF14 won't be using POL, but it will be using SE's new system (token one).

I'd say this is highly likely to be true. I've seen one of these fabled "letters" and the one I saw said.

We performed an investigation based on the information you have provided us and compared them with the data collected on your account. We have confirmed that this account took advantage of an in-game mechanics and obtain increased amount of items not intended by normal means.
Therefore this account will remain banned. This is a final statement.

We deeply apologise for the inconvenience this has caused you, and we appreciate your continue use of the PlayOnline Service.

Notice how they asked for CONTINUED use of POL services at the end. Now that seems astrange thing to say if Perm IP ban was gonna happen doesnt it?

here's how their banning trick works.

they will ban multiple accounts if they contain all the same info of:
Full name
Address
CC info

If one of these is different. they will not ban. for example

Full name is different
Address and CC is the same.

They have to have all three in accuracy to ban you. Trust me I know :)

I can vouch that what Piplup said is 100% true.

Everyone I know that got banned is playing on a separate account and most are using the same card. Don't really see this being enforced.

It aint really whoever the rules say they can ban based on any of your personal info just for being related to someone who did something bad. But really that wouldn't really go over too well in the end.

I, for one, hope SE dumps the program within a program approach (like FFXI within PoL) and just does it straight up like WoW.

Not that it matters much to me...I'm staying with FFXI and not jumping to FFXIV anyways. At least, not for a long while.

i us my mothers creditcard so if i do something wronge and get band i can get a creditcard of my own and still play right ?

I don't see the big deal here. At all. Get a new credit card.
Oh crap, that was REALLY hard. -_-