End Of FFXIV

No reason to defend it now.. its over. Wait until 2.0 comes out and then argue over it. >.> Jeez

They should have give us a race with horns and wings and able to turn into a fire breathing dragon to begin with. Not cat ears from FFXI ;>

That's his whole point. Why not just give ppl something completely different to begin with?

OK first point. No I never said you can do 1-50 with JUST quests. Secondly, if you're really thinking an MMO is going to level grind you through story like a console game, you clearly have no idea what an MMO is designed for... Third "low level raids every 3-5 levels" would mean there are 10 different dungeons to JUST EXP off of, not to mention raids for end-game. How friggin large did you expect this game to be on launch? lol 13 raid dungeons WITH an exp full storyline AND you're expecting it to have a stellar story? Dude, come on... Also you say the story is not "deep" or the characters aren't fleshed out? Again, you obviously didn't level the jobs to 50 because there is a lot of NPC story in the job quests.

Also, did nobody read the dev note, where they might add Viera from Ivalice to 2.0 on 2.0's first expansion?

SOLD. Sign me up!


Yes prz

I read that on the Viera and was about to bring that up. But I don't quite like that either, just for the fact that it's taking a piece of Ivalice's lore and incorporating it into Hydaelyn.

But maybe most people wouldn't care. I'd like to see something totally original.

They took a survey on what race people would want them to add. Lizardman or something came in 2nd, but Viera or rabbit like folk, came in first. So they said they were going to look into it, to perhaps put it in the first expansion.

I would too, but they took a pretty big poll and that's what people want. At the end of the day they need to push subscriptions, so it is what it is. And they might look similar, but I'm sure there will be lore attached and unique to 14. I simply used the term viera, so you guys would visually picture what I meant/the devs were asking for.

1. It's already been done before. I fully understand what's MMO's for, mostly follow the same forumla, you grind to cap, you do endgame event to stick in the game. Which I'm perfectly fine with. But it's perfectly capable for a MMO to offer more variety in the process of grinding to cap. 13 raid dungeon isn't very frigging large for a MMORPG btw. It's more like FFXIV 1.0 didn't put enough resource, that's why it doesn't have that many.

2. I finished my job quests, and obviously my standard for story/character development is different from yours, so you can stop all that "You don't like story cuz you never finish" or "you don't like story cuz you don't pay attention".


Honestly, all that standard I listed are something already done in other RPG. FFXIV being a modern RPG, can't be compared? Obviously if you only compare 14 with 11, 14 is awesome.

That's the thing about XIV. The game is looking cool but it seems that the devs are just completely pandering to the player base now. It's not really a BAD thing, it's just akward.

Materia and Meteor from FFVII, Magitek Armor from VI, Crystal Tower from III, and now possibly Viera from XII. I know the FF series draws elements from past games all the time with new iterations, but these are blatant rehashes of past FF games.

Whatever tho, as long as XIV makes some kind of ~positive~ name for itself in the long run then I guess it's ok.

:)

Clearly you didn't. You said straight out the story isn't fleshed out and characters aren't developed. Perhaps they aren't developed TO YOUR LIKING, but they were certainly developed... There is no debating that. The characters HAVE back story. Infact all of the major characters do. So I really think you should have paid more attention, honestly. You're going around claiming like it's fact that there is literally no undertones to ANY character, when they ALL have some.

And yes I think having 13-20 dungeons is kind of large for a launch, honestly. This game hasn't had any expansions yet, but 2.0 will sort of be one, in addition to it's overhaul.

Also 14 does have variety to grind... How does it not? Leves, quests, behest, chocob escorts, story missions, exp parties. That's a lot of different ways to exp...

Fine, using your words, they're developed, but it's not well written one. Happy now? There are good story and there are bad story, like there are good student and there bad students. Bad student doesn't get an A, like FFXIV's story doesn't get an A, even compare with past FF stories, happy now? And being a long time FF fan, I'm asking for an A, is that clear enough?

Get real, everyone and their mother still PL and spirit bond for EXP.

Yes, that's actually perfectly fine. That's a VALID claim. Before you were simply spouting blind hatred without merit. You stating before that the characters have no understone is false. You might have not liked it, but it was there. Saying you don't like it compared to other FF titles is valid. At least now you're no longer touting around BS as much. My job is done...

No..this is ***. You said there was no variety to grind. I just listed 6 *** ways to exp. Mind you I didn't PL ANY of my jobs... And spirit bonding... IS AN EXP PARTY. The spirit bond system was just a bonus to exping...

It's not blind hatred, it's just different standard.

Can you guys stop? :/ If you love it, play it. If you hate it, don't. Everyone has their own opinion and that's not going to change until 2.0 if at all. D:

I didnt! Thats probably why I only had 2 jobs slightly over 10 lol

13-20, assuming they're decently sized and fleshed out, is indeed pretty sizeable.

Obviously not as much as established MMOs, but you have to give leeway for that.

I disliked FF14 a lot and would never try it... however, 2.0 does look like pretty much a new game. Going into it without an open mind could just cheat you of a fun experience, even if I am skeptical about SE as a whole when it comes to MMOs.

Having standards is way different from flat out saying there is no backstory when there is a ton. Standards is not liking what they laid out in front of you, though it's still there. You said there WAS NO FLESHED OUT CHARACTERS, and there are. It is a simple matter of the actual back story being there. It's completely different.

You list 6 ways, and the only efficient way that everyone use is still a few. Quest to EXP in 1.0 is ***, it's way too small amount of EXP.

Yeah because I didn't level the majority of my leathercrafting 45+ from moogles.. oh wait I did. 4500 exp per 20m mog fight isn't efficient when I'm actually doing it for weapons, sorry... My bad for multi-tasking...

You don't get it, I'm not asking for faster EXP at all. I'm not asking to get EXP for 45+ job when you do BC fight either.

Screw this... I'm outta here. it's WAY too late for me to be up arguing over this crap. I've made my points clear. If you don't get it by now, you just won't >_<.

You're the one who won't get it if you keep thinking everything in 14 is acceptable and awesome, when other titles on the market did better job in those aspect. Do you know that I actually refused to lv more jobs to 50 in 1.0 just so that I can quest for EXP in 2.0? I don't want to be disappointed in this aspect that's all. But if player base accepts current stat, then nothing I can say.

Afania...the CS must of done something to you and evoked some really strong feelings cause you're still in the thread sharing your negative thoughts about it.

How bout this, you start a thread, type out a story for us to read, we read it, then get back to you on it.

You say that the stories in FFXIV are weak and rehashed ideas..you must of never done the Hildibrand quest line. It was like four or five quests and I bet you 100% that anyone that did them will remember them for a long time to come.

And yes, you could get 1-50 in FFXIV from questing, the main story alone could get you to the mid 30s.

You seem to be the type of person that says if it's not the game you want..it sucks. No one forces you to play these games. The CS made people think about maybe sticking with it and finishing the story. IMO that's some powerful entertainment. Movies do it all the time and so do most forms of media, try to tell you in 30-45 seconds why you should watch this. As far as the lore of the game goes, no you won't see too much difference from game to game, but that's why people simply love the FF series. It doesn't take something and completely turn it around on you. If that doesn't appeal to you, look elsewhere, plain and simple.

Edit: Also, even the people that LOVE the game will still admit to the cons it had, it just wasn't as bad as most would think if you only gave it 10 minutes then decided it was crap.

I'm just replying ppl.

And whether I type out a story for everyone else to read, is irrelevant to FFXIV. What's the point to this suggestion even? I type out a story for everyone else to read, you either like it or not, but it will never affect FFXIV's story?




I created my char since launch, then playing on and off for past 2 years, when there's sentinel skill, and you skill up whenever you fight. I still have a SS with old physical level and such. So surely it's only 10 min. Heck I even done quite a lot of main story before it gives huge reward like now.

Basically, if I said "I've played RPG with better story", or "This MMO can have more variety on their way to 50", I automatically only play for 10 min?

...fairly sure this is the thought of 99% of writers, and guess what..FFXIV has writers!! If you don't like it..move the f**k on and stop trying to rain on everyone else's parade.

Honestly, if you like it just keep playing it? Why let negative comment bother you? I think it can do a lot better than it is now, and you're ok with current level? So we both move the *** on? Why do you just insist to tell anyone who doesn't like shut up?