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By Valefor.Applebottoms 2012-11-11 13:27:21  
I work at Walmart.. I've been getting around 32-34 hours per week since I started.. sometimes more depending on how many people they have to work.

Even after Obama still elected.. I STILL maintain that, and I've got insurance.

Starts next year and is going to cost me around $17 per paycheck... every two weeks.

Is it the best? Not by far, but it will at least cover any doctor's visits, preventative care, etc.

I'm glad to have that offered to be.. because I live here in MA and what the "free" healthcare has put me through I can never forgive.

Try being told "oh hey you have insurance" ...then be told you didn't.. then get a letter saying you did.. then get another one saying you didn't and you have to pay a $500 bill when you were told it was covered.

...@.@

My point is, if I can be offered insurance at Walmart for as cheap as I'm paying, I'm sure other companies can follow suit at the cost as well.

I'm all for moving to Japan, they got some crazy awesome stuff over there. :D
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By Sylph.Washburn 2012-11-11 13:52:42  
Kinda ironic at my job, this fiscal year, they raised insurance (again). I pay about $250 per month for my daughter and I. Its not amazing by any means, but its not too bad, i suppose. But the irony lies in the waiver they offered this year. To save $30/month, i had to sign an affidavit saying i didnt smoke, or use tobacco, which i dont...but offering that to a firefighter is kinda goofy...we all inhale smoke at times...but thats why i pay $250/month, i guess.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk 2012-11-11 14:01:28  
He would have to pay about 20 million dollars to insure health care for his employee's. Most of you ffxi fiends have 300 million gil and will not drop 20 million to some random person you don't know.

If you can't do it with fake money i find it hard to believe you would do it with real money. Stop QQ
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-11-11 14:02:52  
Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
He would have to pay about 20 million dollars to insure health care for his employee's. Most of you ffxi fiends have 300 million gil and will not drop 20 million to some random person you don't know.

If you can't do it with fake money i find it hard to believe you would do it with real money. Stop QQ

These aren't random people. These are the people that help him make his millions.

Also, he has ways to destroy the cost and profit at once -- raise his pizza from 9.99 to 10.99 and claim that he's doing the American thing.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-11-11 14:04:30  
Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
He would have to pay about 20 million dollars to insure health care for his employee's. Most of you ffxi fiends have 300 million gil and will not drop 20 million to some random person you don't know.

If you can't do it with fake money i find it hard to believe you would do it with real money. Stop QQ

Worst comparison I've ever heard in my life.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk 2012-11-11 14:05:06  
Bahamut.Serj said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
He would have to pay about 20 million dollars to insure health care for his employee's. Most of you ffxi fiends have 300 million gil and will not drop 20 million to some random person you don't know.

If you can't do it with fake money i find it hard to believe you would do it with real money. Stop QQ

Worst comparison I've ever heard in my life.
QQ
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2012-11-11 14:06:17  
Comparing 20million to cover ALL his employees (which is then recouped by an additional 11 cent per pizza increase) and dropping 20 million gil on a single person, is completely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. They aren't even the same thing. This man EMPLOYS people, and as stated, would actually profit by increasing the cost of his pizza sales by a dollar, which people would gladly hand over to happy, healthy, and content employees who are happy with their jobs.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk 2012-11-11 14:06:48  
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
He would have to pay about 20 million dollars to insure health care for his employee's. Most of you ffxi fiends have 300 million gil and will not drop 20 million to some random person you don't know.

If you can't do it with fake money i find it hard to believe you would do it with real money. Stop QQ

These aren't random people. These are the people that help him make his millions.

Also, he has ways to destroy the cost and profit at once -- raise his pizza from 9.99 to 10.99 and claim that he's doing the American thing.
They are random people to him. He knows less than 98% of his employee's. They are as important to him as a construction contractor would value some random mexican he picked up at 7 11.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk 2012-11-11 14:07:35  
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
Comparing 20million to cover ALL his employees (which is then recouped by an additional 11 cent per pizza increase) and dropping 20 million gil on a single person, is completely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. They aren't even the same thing. This man EMPLOYS people, and as stated, would actually profit by increasing the cost of his pizza sales by a dollar, which people would gladly hand over to happy, healthy, and content employees who are happy with their jobs.
20 million on one person or spread out to random people. I bet you never had and never will do that.
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By Ragnarok.Blurrski 2012-11-11 14:07:45  
Bahamut.Serj said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
He would have to pay about 20 million dollars to insure health care for his employee's. Most of you ffxi fiends have 300 million gil and will not drop 20 million to some random person you don't know.

If you can't do it with fake money i find it hard to believe you would do it with real money. Stop QQ

Worst comparison I've ever heard in my life.
Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
QQ

No, really. Worst, ever.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk 2012-11-11 14:09:17  
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
Comparing 20million to cover ALL his employees (which is then recouped by an additional 11 cent per pizza increase) and dropping 20 million gil on a single person, is completely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. They aren't even the same thing. This man EMPLOYS people, and as stated, would actually profit by increasing the cost of his pizza sales by a dollar, which people would gladly hand over to happy, healthy, and content employees who are happy with their jobs.
Do you really think the america we live in cares that much? People are naturally greedy and bent to their own selfishness. Idk what kind of fairy tale america you live in where you really think the vast majority of people here actually care about one another's financial needs.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-11-11 14:09:31  
Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
He would have to pay about 20 million dollars to insure health care for his employee's. Most of you ffxi fiends have 300 million gil and will not drop 20 million to some random person you don't know.

If you can't do it with fake money i find it hard to believe you would do it with real money. Stop QQ

These aren't random people. These are the people that help him make his millions.

Also, he has ways to destroy the cost and profit at once -- raise his pizza from 9.99 to 10.99 and claim that he's doing the American thing.
They are random people to him. He knows less than 98% of his employee's. They are as important to him as a construction contractor would value some random mexican he picked up at 7 11.

Doesn't change what I said.

His empire is built on them. If they all quit at once, his empire would fall.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2012-11-11 14:10:31  
Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
He would have to pay about 20 million dollars to insure health care for his employee's. Most of you ffxi fiends have 300 million gil and will not drop 20 million to some random person you don't know.

If you can't do it with fake money i find it hard to believe you would do it with real money. Stop QQ

These aren't random people. These are the people that help him make his millions.

Also, he has ways to destroy the cost and profit at once -- raise his pizza from 9.99 to 10.99 and claim that he's doing the American thing.
They are random people to him. He knows less than 98% of his employee's. They are as important to him as a construction contractor would value some random mexican he picked up at 7 11.

Another really asinine comparison. If a construction worker picked up ANYONE, regardless of race, from a 7-11, they really wouldn't value them at all. Also, that's just a *** stupid idea in the first place.

Treating 98% of your workforce as random and expendable, when they go through a hiring process via chain of command, is also another *** stupid idea, and deserves to run his own business into the ground.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk 2012-11-11 14:12:21  
We live in a american filled with people who thinks they are victims and are entitled to a free hand out. This country is going to go through another great depression.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2012-11-11 14:13:01  
First of all, i don't live in America. I live in Canada, and secondly, there are huge amounts of people that care. Reason? Because businesses rely on people's disposable income to make a profit. Without that disposable income, businesses can't flourish. Hell, banks rely on people having money to spend and save, so they can loan it out, and repay with interest. It's how banks work.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk 2012-11-11 14:13:32  
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
He would have to pay about 20 million dollars to insure health care for his employee's. Most of you ffxi fiends have 300 million gil and will not drop 20 million to some random person you don't know.

If you can't do it with fake money i find it hard to believe you would do it with real money. Stop QQ

These aren't random people. These are the people that help him make his millions.

Also, he has ways to destroy the cost and profit at once -- raise his pizza from 9.99 to 10.99 and claim that he's doing the American thing.
They are random people to him. He knows less than 98% of his employee's. They are as important to him as a construction contractor would value some random mexican he picked up at 7 11.

Doesn't change what I said.

His empire is built on them. If they all quit at once, his empire would fall.
No it wouldn't. They are still a few hard working determined people who would hop on the job opportunity in an instant.
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By Bahamut.Meaikidou 2012-11-11 14:13:46  
i don't know why everyone feels bad for these employees... obama won... they can now get more government assistance and educational grants. a minimum wager at papa johns isn't a career, it's a transitional job while you get education...if someone is unwilling to get further in life through education, especially with all the "programs" obama is throwing money at, then perhaps they deserve to take a cut to wake them up to thinking about progressing in life.
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By Ragnarok.Blurrski 2012-11-11 14:13:54  
One person who has 300m rl dollars (ie mansion, cars, no worries about healthcare ever, SET for life) taking less than a tenth (which will in no way impact them) to help peoples lives just get by, compared to one person having 300m fake dollars, in a game he chooses to play/pay to play, distributing that same amount of money to other players choosing to play, which would at most help people get some new fake stuff.

Who gives a ***if someone with 300m gil in a game wont share with the other children. Youre talking about real life, real lives. Get a *** clue.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk 2012-11-11 14:15:21  
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
First of all, i don't live in America. I live in Canada, and secondly, there are huge amounts of people that care. Reason? Because businesses rely on people's disposable income to make a profit. Without that disposable income, businesses can't flourish. Hell, banks rely on people having money to spend and save, so they can loan it out, and repay with interest. It's how banks work.
You swear that people go to businesses dominantly based on their care for the owners? lol, People go to business' because of the necessity of the product they have to offer and the price they sell it for.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk 2012-11-11 14:18:17  
Ragnarok.Blurrski said: »
One person who has 300m rl dollars (ie mansion, cars, no worries about healthcare ever, SET for life) taking less than a tenth (which will in no way impact them) to help peoples lives just get by, compared to one person having 300m fake dollars, in a game he chooses to play/pay to play, distributing that same amount of money to other players choosing to play, which would at most help people get some new fake stuff.

Who gives a ***if someone with 300m gil in a game wont share with the other children. Youre talking about real life, real lives. Get a *** clue.
If you are to greedy with fake ***, what makes you think you wouldn't be more greedy with real ***? You need to get a clue. lol
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By Cerberus.Kengo 2012-11-11 14:18:18  
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i don't know why everyone feels bad for these employees... obama won... they can now get more government assistance and educational grants. a minimum wager at papa johns isn't a career, it's a transitional job while you get education...if someone is unwilling to get further in life through education, especially with all the "programs" obama is throwing money at, then perhaps they deserve to take a cut to wake them up to thinking about progressing in life.

True, but, getting an education today doesn't mean you're going to get a job. 15-20 years ago? Sure. Today? Unless you're going into something that actually matters; engineering, physics, mathematics, chemistry, medicine, etc etc, having that loan debt isn't helping anyone other than the banks.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2012-11-11 14:21:50  
That's the thing though, there really isn't any necessitation for 90% of what's offered. It's about Supply and Demand. Demand is created by 2 things: Need and Want. Want is the greater of the two for creating Demand. These are simple business facts.

Alienating your workforce is also extremely bad for business: Quality control drops, service gradually becomes worse, resulting in lost business, which means even MORE cutbacks on labor cost, which means more lost jobs and reduced work hours, which continues the perpetuation.

Personally, i could only work to my fullest when i know my employer is working just as hard for me and the customer. Call it a fantasy, i call it good business. Many employers these days, are simply out for themselves, not giving a damn about the customer or the people who really make their businesses run, which would be the employees.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk 2012-11-11 14:22:09  
Now i'm seeing B'J's pizza on google adds. I'm going to pizza hut for lunch. Peace.
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By Asura.Escorian 2012-11-11 14:22:10  
guys mnkk is only jumping on the romney band wagon. Anything to hurt Obama's presidency makes him happy so basically just ignore him.
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By Bahamut.Meaikidou 2012-11-11 14:22:11  
Cerberus.Kengo said: »
Bahamut.Meaikidou said: »
i don't know why everyone feels bad for these employees... obama won... they can now get more government assistance and educational grants. a minimum wager at papa johns isn't a career, it's a transitional job while you get education...if someone is unwilling to get further in life through education, especially with all the "programs" obama is throwing money at, then perhaps they deserve to take a cut to wake them up to thinking about progressing in life.

True, but, getting an education today doesn't mean you're going to get a job. 15-20 years ago? Sure. Today? Unless you're going into something that actually matters; engineering, physics, mathematics, chemistry, medicine, etc etc, having that loan debt isn't helping anyone other than the banks.

just saying... there's so much to take advantage of from the government now, which isn't really all that great for the middle class or rich tax payers, but for those working for papa johns and other "transitional" jobs, now is the time to get ahead... people will eventually take advantage of it. This is why so many people 18-25ish voted for obama i'm guessing.
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By Cerberus.Kengo 2012-11-11 14:22:49  
Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
Ragnarok.Blurrski said: »
One person who has 300m rl dollars (ie mansion, cars, no worries about healthcare ever, SET for life) taking less than a tenth (which will in no way impact them) to help peoples lives just get by, compared to one person having 300m fake dollars, in a game he chooses to play/pay to play, distributing that same amount of money to other players choosing to play, which would at most help people get some new fake stuff.

Who gives a ***if someone with 300m gil in a game wont share with the other children. Youre talking about real life, real lives. Get a *** clue.
If you are to greedy with fake ***, what makes you think you wouldn't be more greedy with real ***? You need to get a clue. lol

What the *** is real? Money is fake. It's something man created to use to trade for goods and services.

We get people are greedy. We *** get it. But comparing people that play an online game to a CEO of a fortune 500 company is ignorant. I see no similarity.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-11-11 14:23:34  
Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
Bahamut.Serj said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
He would have to pay about 20 million dollars to insure health care for his employee's. Most of you ffxi fiends have 300 million gil and will not drop 20 million to some random person you don't know.

If you can't do it with fake money i find it hard to believe you would do it with real money. Stop QQ

Worst comparison I've ever heard in my life.
QQ

Excellent response. Quite the parallel to your intelligence if I must say so.
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By Ragnarok.Blurrski 2012-11-11 14:24:04  
Bahamut.Meaikidou said: »
i don't know why everyone feels bad for these employees... obama won... they can now get more government assistance and educational grants. a minimum wager at papa johns isn't a career, it's a transitional job while you get education...if someone is unwilling to get further in life through education, especially with all the "programs" obama is throwing money at, then perhaps they deserve to take a cut to wake them up to thinking about progressing in life.

Its not about papa johns or thier employees, its the disease of people not giving a ***about other people being spread, ultimately being the problem.

As well as people thinking theres this magic rule of thumb stating if you are unsatisfied with the means you have to sustain your life, go do something about it, anyone can do anything, anyone can have anything, anyone can be anyone.

All I can say is, lol.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk 2012-11-11 14:24:05  
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
That's the thing though, there really isn't any necessitation for 90% of what's offered. It's about Supply and Demand. Demand is created by 2 things: Need and Want. Want is the greater of the two for creating Demand. These are simple business facts.

Alienating your workforce is also extremely bad for business: Quality control drops, service gradually becomes worse, resulting in lost business, which means even MORE cutbacks on labor cost, which means more lost jobs and reduced work hours, which continues the perpetuation.

Personally, i could only work to my fullest when i know my employer is working just as hard for me and the customer. Call it a fantasy, i call it good business. Many employers these days, are simply out for themselves, not giving a damn about the customer or the people who really make their businesses run, which would be the employees.
I would agree with you for small business that is starting. But empires like Poppa johns, pizza hut, disneyland, walmart, ect. ect. Are very well established and are not going anywhere despite how they treat they're minimum wage employee's.
By volkom 2012-11-11 14:24:24  
I'm probably gonna take some hate for this but~ w/e

To me if you're the head of a company and you've reached a point where your standard of living needs X amount of money and you're really accustomed to that. and If your company is losing money and you want to keep that same standard of living them I'm sure you're going to find ways to keep that, even if it means laying off employees or lowering hours. However if this is the case for the CEO of papa johns then sounds like he's just making it like a scapegoat and blaming obama/administration
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