Papa John's Boycott

There are so many business deductibles and loopholes in the system, that he could actually profit by maintaining a strong, dedicated, and healthy workforce. This has been proven throughout history time and again as the best way to increase profits, inspire sales, increase skill, encourage creativity, and spur new business.

No oven over here :/

I go to Hungry Howies though. $5.95 for a large fresh made pizza beats out $5 little Cesar's hot-n-ready that's been sitting on the warmer for hours.

I do like Papa Johns, but only when I'm at someone else's house who happened to order some on their own. Their ***is way too expensive to ever buy it with my own money.

That being said, if I do know people who are buying it, I'm sure as *** ain't gonna turn it down.

and yes, Mom/pop >>>> fast food chains, but also more expensive (than at least hungry howies/little cesar's, which are the only two places I'd ever spend my own personal money on), so they're out of the question

minimum wage is $7.25...

and typically if a pizza place is making you sick they aren't taking proper temp control measures. took me while but I found at this one place I like to go depending on who's working they leave the sauce sit out, big bowl. Bacteria grows fast in that at room temp.

It hasn't happened in months or I'd complain about it, owner knows I'm a regular etc.

7.25? A pretty low one in Sweden is at least double that :|

You get what you pay for.

Sure this indian guy next to my house sells 2 large pizza for 12$~, but you'll win a whole night sitting on your throne after eating some rather thin pizzas. Meanwhile, I can spend 25~$ on 2 large ones in France and send myself to heaven thanks to the ultimate delicacy that is an Armenian pizza.

I'm not rich either but I often save in order to eat quality stuff.

But when you get into the realm of spending that much money, you're probably better off getting something that's not pizza lol.

that's the thing, PJ you aren't getting what you pay for.

I saw this coming a mile away. Anyone over 30 hours gets health insurance.... 29 hour weeks become the norm for preditory employers. Then they hire more people at 29hr/week and say they are creating jobs.

Fact is, there is no consequence for employers who stoop to these levels and that's the biggest problem with federal mandates. Too many loopholes and not enough recourse.

Employers that took care of thier people will continue to, employers that screwed their people will just find new creative ways to do it and blame it on the administration. Sadly, the latter is the more common type of employer these days.

tbh I wouldn't mind the # of hours at all, if they paid them properly.

Come on, minimum wage is enough to live on... Definately enough to support a family at 29 hours a week. Especially if you or your kid gets sick....

I usually try to see both sides of the coin. I highly doubt he's a hardcore scrooge, and just doesnt want to pay up, but papa johns, for a long time, was really expensove compared to dominoes, pizza hut, etc..but over the past few years theyve damn near cut their costs by 30-40%. If he were to have to add the cost of healthcare for every employee, the cost of the pizzas would skyrocket, then noone would buy them in a ***economy, then he goes out of business. It does sound shitty, but thats the true cost of obamacare. More will come.

^ that

the sarcasm is strong with this one

not that...

he's politicizing his *** managing that every other Mcduck uses.

Thing is: this has nothing to do with Obamacare, it has to do with class warfare and greed, even more to add to that trickle-down is a fallacy.

Also: pizza is cheap as *** to make, it takes a retard to not profit off a pizza joint.

Also: the economy isn't ***, it's not booming well again because the wealth is sitting in one spot, because people aren't being paid properly.

edit: inb4 bootstrap myth, inb4 capitalist rhetoric.

odd correlation that I'm going to throw out there even though I realize it has no substance:

my county:

100.0% Reporting
M. Romney GOP 69.5% 24,173
B. Obama (i) Dem 28.9% 10,059


and people overwhelmingly love PJ pizza here. interesting.

Does Wal-Mart not already do this, and people still *** shop there?

Also if you boycott Papa Johns, they'll make less money and be forced to reduce employee hours even further.

No.

You see, Papa Johns is currently stating that it would have to rise their pizza cost from 9.99 to 10.10 per pie to cover this cost. That is 11. Pennies.

They could round it from 9.99$ to 10.99$ and not drastically harm their profit, pocket an additional 89 pennies extra. The fact that they are:

1. Politicizing this issue.

2. Not already doing this.

3. Complaining over having to adapt to an ever changing world

4. Making it clear that they are unwilling to suck it up to make sure their employees have some help staying alive

Demonstrates, in my opinion, that they are a contemptible company that I should boycott on a moral basis.

This is the true cost of Obamacare? .11$?

I'm fine with that.

More likely, they'll be forced to raise their pizza 1$, profit more, and everyone wins.

Thus losing more customers to Pizza Hut / Domino's / independent restaurants.

All of those restaurants are finding ways to adapt without throwing a hissy fit -- it's not our problem that Poppy over there is run by morons that cannot figure it out.

If they cannot make it work, just as everyone else is, then their company deserves to die.

Sect 2016

I CAN BE THE HERO THAT GOVERNMENT NEEDS, TO DOWNSIZE THE GOVERNMENT AND LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE!

Also, if 100 customers stop patronizing their Papa Johns, there's 100 customers to go to better pizza places, that can then in turn afford better pizza, more hours for their employees, new employees, healthcare -- whatever.

Like i said, there's 2 sides to every coin. Yeah, its greedy. A perfect person who didnt suffer from any of the se7en deadly sins, would do what yall are bitching about. The bad part is, the world doesnt work like that. Its business. Hes going to get his taxes raised, and pay more for 30+ hour employees, + ehen obamacare hits, im sure he'll be paying another hike for that. Services cost money. He wants to keep makin money, which is why he produced a product to sell. Its business.

What's in the booooooooox?! What's in the boooooooox?!

Pizza ***.

Boycotting is only gonna cut more jobs...his will be the last one cut, which, if you ask me, is worse than cutting hours.

Olive Garden was already planning this too. Pretty sure I posted about the Olive Garden thing in another post. This is going to happen in more restaurant and hotel chains than some people realize.

actually some of the world does work like that, but thanks to corporations less and less business practice business ethics.



so yes there's 2 sides, one side where business pay their debt to society, and the other side where people are greedy *** and want to pocket all the money for themselves.

oh also: businesses have been doing this long before "obamacare" so you can keep politicizing it like "Papa" is doing, but you only look the fool.

oh and it's already been stated that losing their jobs would be better in a lot of cases than lost hours.

hmm what's better? less hours and not having an open schedule to better oneself through education or by a better job, or unemployment due to getting laid off because your CEO is a greedy sob, where you have time for these things. Minimum wage jobs are a dime a dozen.

This is not a new topic and Papa Johns is not alone in taking this stand. My employer is already talking about reducing the new hire workforce from 39 hours a week to 30 and considering only part-time hires for most of their new open positions. Employers are saving a ton of money with Obama care now and unfortunately I think this is only the beginning.

Bottom line - less benefits = more money

Americans will be working 2-3 part time jobs just to make it in today's economy.

Obama promised change. Well here it is!

Today I will fap myself senseless in the shower and the mess I will clean up will be nothing compared to the mess you will experience in the next forty years of your miserable lives (assuming any of you do not die from obesity).

Ok. So, this has been going on long before obamacare, and you're picking now to boycott a company that actually had a reason for it? Please, enlighten me as to why you're pointing directly at Papa John's and not companies like McDonald's, Burger King, WalMart etc etc.

Gotta love how people pick convenient times to be political.

It's not logical to draw the conclusion that bad business ethics is at the fault of Obama.

It's an emotional argument not found in reality.

News flash!!!

People do not start a business to create jobs or make life for everyone better. They create them to make money.. call it greed all you want. They could give a rats *** on what you think.
Theu will do what ever is needed to make more money. Cutting employees is the easiest and fastest way.

I don't plan to eat there less than I already do. I don't eat there already because the pizza is mediocre and overpriced.

They don't actually have a reason for it other than they are greedy ***.

I already point at Wal-Mart, and Kmart for using these practices, I haven't seen BK or Mcdonalds doing it as rampantly or I'd point there too.

Love your false accusations though, they just further prove the ridiculousness of this.