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 Siren.Thoraeon
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-07-24 14:25:08  
Even so, outside Abyssea, Magian staves should stomp all over the Prism Staff.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-07-24 14:27:39  
Yes, as I mentioned. Any time you have less than 40 preexisting affinity (atma) magians are superior. In the event of a double weather + day scenario it's possible that you won't get any effect from Iridescence whatsoever if the effect doesn't go passed the cap.
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By Phoenix.Lucasta 2012-07-24 14:57:20  
staves on auction house on phoenix:

Vulcan's: 14
Aquilo's: 49
Auster's: 48
Terra's: 31
Jupiter's 40
Neptune's 10

saw up to 70 earlier today and just as many NQ. Beads going for 100k+ as well.

Mayhem i say!!
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By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2012-07-24 17:01:13  
Question. This 10% bonus with weather, assuming it procs, would apply to Cures also? So wouldn't that be...

(assuming light weather only)
Obi: 10% Cure Pot
Twilight Cape: +5% cure pot
Chatoyant Staff: 10% Cure pot

Then toss in the 10% bonus with weather that'd be 35% Cure potency, yeah? Or am I doing this wrong.
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By Odin.Cindro 2012-07-25 04:24:53  
Still confused about this... do they mean they'll be adding it in the future?:

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[dev1129] The maximum number of upgrades for the attribute merit point category has been raised from twelve to twenty-four.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-07-25 04:26:00  
No, it was added this update
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-07-25 04:26:11  
It's already in place, you can merit 2 attributes up to 12. In total 24 points.
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By Odin.Cindro 2012-07-25 04:27:17  
AHHH kk, I misunderstood and thought they were raising the caps to 24 lol
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By Squabble 2012-07-25 04:42:10  
Bahamut.Mizuharu said: »
Question. This 10% bonus with weather, assuming it procs, would apply to Cures also? So wouldn't that be...

(assuming light weather only)
Obi: 10% Cure Pot
Twilight Cape: +5% cure pot
Chatoyant Staff: 10% Cure pot

Then toss in the 10% bonus with weather that'd be 35% Cure potency, yeah? Or am I doing this wrong.

The 10% listed on the staff would be counted along with gear, and then the weather effects come in at the end, so say you cure for 1000 without any gear, with Obi+Cape+Staff you would cure for 1000*1.1*1.25=1375, a 37.5% increase overall.
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By Bahamut.Cantontai 2012-07-25 04:46:01  
Fighting mandies in Aby-Misa right now. Averaging 1 skill level of parrying per minute as BLU/NIN. Thinking about switching to NIN/DNC tho...
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By Fenrir.Dibble 2012-07-25 06:02:02  
Odin.Eikechi said: »
I'm not taking fishing to 110 to catch this fish just so i can get a cape to help me get 95-110 goldsmithing lol
That is indeed wise.
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By Fenrir.Dibble 2012-07-25 06:16:59  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Yes, as I mentioned. Any time you have less than 40 preexisting affinity (atma) magians are superior. In the event of a double weather + day scenario it's possible that you won't get any effect from Iridescence whatsoever if the effect doesn't go passed the cap.

Dude, so 40 affinity translates to .4 in the calculations?

In your example there is .6 atma affinity in the elemental staff calc, so is that 60 affinity? And that comes from Beyond (30) and Undying (20)?

Also, obviously you can only get weather in Abyssea /SCH and since you can't Thunderstorm yourself you don't get any weather bonus at all for Thunder spells in Abyssea?
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-07-25 07:44:36  
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Even so, outside Abyssea, Magian staves should stomp all over the Prism Staff.

There are people like me (admittedly) who are either too lazy, or will not prioritize the inventory for each elemental staff. I'm not saying that it's optimal but at LEAST this staff should make a good portion of the playerbase who wasn't buying/making any staves before, consider at least this one now.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-07-25 08:05:23  
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Even so, outside Abyssea, Magian staves should stomp all over the Prism Staff.

There are people like me (admittedly) who are either too lazy, or will not prioritize the inventory for each elemental staff. I'm not saying that it's optimal but at LEAST this staff should make a good portion of the playerbase who wasn't buying/making any staves before, consider at least this one now.

All I know is that people can't make the inventory excuse for carrying that terrible scythe.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-07-25 08:12:00  
I don't get it :<
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-07-25 08:22:36  
People who try to justify Meleficus because it saves inventory.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2012-07-25 08:24:12  
I know I'm going to lllove this new staff and the extra inventory that comes with it.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-07-25 08:28:27  
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
People who try to justify Meleficus because it saves inventory.

Oh rofl.... I thought you were taking a shot at apoc and i was liek ZOMG WHAT DID I EVER DO TO YOU T.T
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-07-25 08:31:22  
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
People who try to justify Meleficus because it saves inventory.

Oh rofl.... I thought you were taking a shot at apoc and i was liek ZOMG WHAT DID I EVER DO TO YOU T.T

No, I was talking about the OTHER terrible scythe.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-07-25 08:35:36  
Well as of this update, I've lost faith in the intelligence of most of my server. Ballad went from 400k to 40k in 1 sale, and elemental beads/ores shot up to like 90-100k each then shot right back down to 20k (just as i spent about 130k gil on 3 ores trying to profit)
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-07-25 08:36:57  
Step 1.) Thunder, Ice Magian Staves
Step 1.5) (Optional) If you're feeling cheeky, Dark Magian Staff for Drains/Aspirs
Step 2.) Chatoyant Staff for everything else
Step 3.) Continue pretending that slight increases in nuking DPS matter* outside of a very few niche activities.


*matter is a very strong word.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-07-25 08:38:10  
Don't forget cure staff, no excuse not to have that if you are on a mage job.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-07-25 08:40:11  
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Don't forget cure staff, no excuse not to have that if you are on a mage job.

Actually some like sch can cap potency with the prism staff thing, and that makes it better than Arka.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-07-25 08:40:30  
Was specifically referring to damage staves, I should have specified. I didn't really consider Arka IV and Apollo's Staff to be competing for inventory slots, since most (many? some?) people keep Apollo's around for other purposes.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2012-07-25 08:40:41  
Throw in the stun staff in there if you feel like it, probably the next best thing.
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By Asura.Ziekwalt 2012-07-25 08:41:42  
I am not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet or not but......since Chatoyant Staff is lvl51 are we able to augment it using the FoV augmentation system?
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-07-25 08:43:22  
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Don't forget cure staff, no excuse not to have that if you are on a mage job.

Actually some like sch can cap potency with the prism staff thing, and that makes it better than Arka.

SCH requires HQ Legion Hexed gear to cap potency with Chatoyant so this isn't really a viable thing to think about; however, if you can get 38% or greater cure potency using Chatoyant and Auroastorm, it surpasses Arka IV.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-07-25 08:46:42  
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Don't forget cure staff, no excuse not to have that if you are on a mage job.

Actually some like sch can cap potency with the prism staff thing, and that makes it better than Arka.

SCH requires HQ Legion Hexed gear to cap potency with Chatoyant so this isn't really a viable thing to think about; however, if you can get 38% or greater cure potency using Chatoyant and Auroastorm, it surpasses Arka IV.

That's what I meant. And 38 with that staff isn't THAT difficult. Reminds me I need to do some Bismark lol
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-07-25 08:51:10  
I didn't mean to insinuate that 38% was difficult to attain; it was just a statement of fact!
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-07-25 08:51:51  
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
I didn't mean to insinuate that 38% was difficult to attain; it was just a statement of fact!
But did you take into account feelings? *giggles*
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