Is A Mythic Even Feasible Anymore For A Newbie?

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Is a Mythic even feasible anymore for a newbie?
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 Fenrir.Sylow
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-11-29 01:21:38  
Also I just tripped over a TV and now my wrist is bleeding Q.Q
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-11-29 01:23:16  
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Also I just tripped over a TV and now my wrist is bleeding Q.Q

Jesus man, you're a wreck. Stop the bleeding and get some rest lol
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-11-29 01:23:56  
Who the *** leaves a TV in the middle of a hallway ;-;
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By Fenrir.Mesic 2012-11-29 01:25:38  
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Fenrir.Mesic said: »
Sylph.Rafaras said: »
The real question would be, how good/bad is Gugnir?

Strongest Drg weapon easy. And by a significant amount I believe.

um.



^^ without that DRG is uncompetitive

I think you got whooshed by some troll posts, mate.

I prolly did, but what a lame thing to troll about if so.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-11-29 01:27:22  
Um, it sounds like you were trollin too saying it was the best, but ok lol.... here I go feedin the trolls lol
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By Fenrir.Mesic 2012-11-29 01:28:55  
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Um, it sounds like you were trollin too saying it was the best, but ok lol.... here I go feedin the trolls lol

You dont think its best? Or you think I was purposefully being sarcastic about the truth?
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-11-29 01:30:41  
wat
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By Fenrir.Mesic 2012-11-29 01:34:58  
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
wat

yea it took me min to word that right, i wouldnt bother if you're drunk.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-11-29 01:35:28  
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Um, it sounds like you were trollin too saying it was the best, but ok lol.... here I go feedin the trolls lol

You dont think its best? Or you think I was purposefully being sarcastic about the truth?

There is an entire thread about how shitty Gungnir is (that was on the main page for the last 2 days). You were either being a really sarcastic person, or ...***i don't even know what another option could be lol
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By Odin.Minefield 2012-11-29 01:36:26  
The question really is, how many licks does it take to get that *** TV blown up in the center of the hallway.
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By Fenrir.Mesic 2012-11-29 01:37:30  
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Fenrir.Mesic said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Um, it sounds like you were trollin too saying it was the best, but ok lol.... here I go feedin the trolls lol

You dont think its best? Or you think I was purposefully being sarcastic about the truth?

There is an entire thread about how shitty Gungnir is (that was on the main page for the last 2 days). You were either being a really sarcastic person, or ...***i don't even know what another option could be lol

the other option is i was misinformed, and didnt care to get correctly informed cause in 8 years or so i've never even unlocked drg.
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By Fenrir.Mesic 2012-11-29 01:38:15  
and where is this thread.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-11-29 01:38:50  
The thread is every thread that has ever discussed melee jobs comparatively.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-11-29 01:39:51  
Fenrir.Mesic said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Fenrir.Mesic said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Um, it sounds like you were trollin too saying it was the best, but ok lol.... here I go feedin the trolls lol

You dont think its best? Or you think I was purposefully being sarcastic about the truth?

There is an entire thread about how shitty Gungnir is (that was on the main page for the last 2 days). You were either being a really sarcastic person, or ...***i don't even know what another option could be lol

the other option is i was misinformed, and didnt care to get correctly informed cause in 8 years or so i've never even unlocked drg.

So you haven't even cared to unlock drg, meaning you did no research, but you went ahead and claimed the relic is the best weapon by far? OK. And just look up the thread, I don't think it got blown up. It's called too many polearms or some crap.
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By Fenrir.Mesic 2012-11-29 01:40:13  
Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
The thread is every thread that has ever discussed melee jobs comparatively.

of course, where isn't a thread mythic drg isn't discussed, how silly of me.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-11-29 01:41:14  
Literally half the time Ryunohige is mentioned, it's stated that it's 40% better than the next alternative.
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By Fenrir.Mesic 2012-11-29 01:42:13  
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Fenrir.Mesic said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Fenrir.Mesic said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Um, it sounds like you were trollin too saying it was the best, but ok lol.... here I go feedin the trolls lol

You dont think its best? Or you think I was purposefully being sarcastic about the truth?

There is an entire thread about how shitty Gungnir is (that was on the main page for the last 2 days). You were either being a really sarcastic person, or ...***i don't even know what another option could be lol

the other option is i was misinformed, and didnt care to get correctly informed cause in 8 years or so i've never even unlocked drg.

So you haven't even cared to unlock drg, meaning you did no research, but you went ahead and claimed the relic is the best weapon by far? OK. And just look up the thread, I don't think it got blown up. It's called too many polearms or some crap.

i said misinformed.
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By Fenrir.Mesic 2012-11-29 01:43:39  
Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
Literally half the time Ryunohige is mentioned, it's stated that it's 40% better than the next alternative.

that is not "every job thats compared melee's", if you're going to defend your comment, defend it.

So why's this other guy/girl saying it isn't jinjo? i think you're debating the wrong person.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-11-29 01:55:16  
Fenrir.Mesic said: »
Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
Literally half the time Ryunohige is mentioned, it's stated that it's 40% better than the next alternative.

that is not "every job thats compared melee's", if you're going to defend your comment, defend it.

So why's this other guy/girl saying it isn't jinjo? i think you're debating the wrong person.

What? I agree with Jinjo (as any drg would), and Sylow. Ryu is by far the best not Gungnir. And I'm a dude...wtf lol
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-11-29 01:55:20  
Go to the search function on the main forums page, and type Ryunohige.

"DRG is still totally useless unless Ryunohige is involved"

"tell him his gungnir is gimp compared to a Ryunohige"

"boost Ryunohige gives to drg is the largest boost a mythic weapon gives to any job"

"If you don't have enough of a soul to give away for the game's best polearm (Ryunohige, obviously),"

"who plays drg without ryunohige"

"It is kind of painful that any dragoon serious about doing damage has to sell their soul for a mythic."

"Some Mythics are ridiculously powerful now. Liberator and Ryunohige are great examples
..I think you meant to say Kogarasumaru and Ryunohige."

"I'll revise my previous statement to: Ryunohige is likely the strongest weapon"

Etc, etc.
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By Fenrir.Mesic 2012-11-29 02:12:28  
I mistaked the relic name for the one the guy refereed to as the mythic, i assumed that was the mythic name cause of the thread title. and thats why i just said you should debate each other. as well as said "mythic drg" in my response to you. thats all. sorry? i dunno.
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By Bahamut.Kazius 2012-11-29 09:53:10  
Fenrir.Mesic said: »

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They've definitely finished Ryunohige by now so don't worry.

Not really 100 Assault missions = 100 days. Plus nyzul tokens = more tags for more 24 hour periods combined with those days. Not to mention the 30k alex, which requires tags again for assault points for salvage runs.

My sarcastic humour really doesn't work on da internotz.
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By Phoenix.Valory 2012-11-29 11:58:18  
I didn't realize this was a necro bump till now... whoops. I found this thread via the OPs profile page cause he posted in a diff thread asking drg question. Figured I'd throw in the obligatory:

'If you do a little bit every day sprinkled in with the other content you're catching up on, by the time you run out of everything else to do you'll be in a much better place to get your mythic then you would be if you had ignored it entirely until you were completely caught up on everything else'
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By Fenrir.Mesic 2012-11-29 19:45:05  
Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
Go to the search function on the main forums page, and type Ryunohige.

"DRG is still totally useless unless Ryunohige is involved"

"tell him his gungnir is gimp compared to a Ryunohige"

"boost Ryunohige gives to drg is the largest boost a mythic weapon gives to any job"

"If you don't have enough of a soul to give away for the game's best polearm (Ryunohige, obviously),"

"who plays drg without ryunohige"

"It is kind of painful that any dragoon serious about doing damage has to sell their soul for a mythic."

"Some Mythics are ridiculously powerful now. Liberator and Ryunohige are great examples
..I think you meant to say Kogarasumaru and Ryunohige."

"I'll revise my previous statement to: Ryunohige is likely the strongest weapon"

Etc, etc.


But still this isn't your original point. Every DD comparison thread is not every thread that mentions mythic/relic drg. Having to use the search function to prove your point that its so obvious is kind of ironic. Just sayin.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-11-29 20:15:17  
Fenrir.Mesic said: »
Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
Go to the search function on the main forums page, and type Ryunohige.

"DRG is still totally useless unless Ryunohige is involved"

"tell him his gungnir is gimp compared to a Ryunohige"

"boost Ryunohige gives to drg is the largest boost a mythic weapon gives to any job"

"If you don't have enough of a soul to give away for the game's best polearm (Ryunohige, obviously),"

"who plays drg without ryunohige"

"It is kind of painful that any dragoon serious about doing damage has to sell their soul for a mythic."

"Some Mythics are ridiculously powerful now. Liberator and Ryunohige are great examples
..I think you meant to say Kogarasumaru and Ryunohige."


"I'll revise my previous statement to: Ryunohige is likely the strongest weapon"

Etc, etc.


But still this isn't your original point. Every DD comparison thread is not every thread that mentions mythic/relic drg. Having to use the search function to prove your point that its so obvious is kind of ironic. Just sayin.

These were all from non-DRG threads.
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By Fenrir.Mesic 2012-11-29 20:33:54  
Fenrir.Mesic said: »
Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
Go to the search function on the main forums page, and type Ryunohige.

"DRG is still totally useless unless Ryunohige is involved"

"tell him his gungnir is gimp compared to a Ryunohige"

"boost Ryunohige gives to drg is the largest boost a mythic weapon gives to any job"

"If you don't have enough of a soul to give away for the game's best polearm (Ryunohige, obviously),"

"who plays drg without ryunohige"

"It is kind of painful that any dragoon serious about doing damage has to sell their soul for a mythic."

"Some Mythics are ridiculously powerful now. Liberator and Ryunohige are great examples
..I think you meant to say Kogarasumaru and Ryunohige."


"I'll revise my previous statement to: Ryunohige is likely the strongest weapon"

Etc, etc.


But still this isn't your original point. Every DD comparison thread is not every thread that mentions mythic/relic drg. Having to use the search function to prove your point that its so obvious is kind of ironic. Just sayin.

These were all from non-DRG threads.[/quote]

First quote's threads about coming back to ffxi. Not something obvious like every comparison dd melee thread.

Second quote is from a thread about gungir. Not every DD comparison thread.

Third quotes from a thread title mythics in action, wasn't really about comparisons as much as mnk wanted to see mythics in action. Although it evolved into that, and i actually saw that thread before, as I have a post in it, which is another reason why i thought/knew mythic drg was best.

Fourth quotes from a thread about polearms only...

Fifth, heavy metal plate threa...anyway

You've gotten further and further away from your original point that its mentioned in every DD comparison thread. Which is essentially your point in trying to make it seem so obvious and I would have been dumb to miss this, So I can't help but wonder, so what exactly is your point now? That this was obvious with the search function in threads that weren't even directly relatable to your original point?

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The thread is every thread that has ever discussed melee jobs comparatively.

Nope.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-11-29 20:39:18  
Oh whatever, Ryunohige is the only Polearm that lets DRG be a competitive with the other 2H jobs.

Top Tier: Kogarasumune SAM, Ragnarok DRK, Ukonvasara WAR, Ryunohige DRG

Second tier would be something like: Amano/Masamune SAM, Conqueror WAR, Sphara/Verth MNK

Third Tier would be: Apocalypse DRK, Ragnarok WAR

Fourth Tier: Starts to include Magians GSs and other R/Ex options, also included Gungnir

Fifth Tier: Rhongo and 1H jobs

That's how large the gap between Gungnir and Ryunohige is.
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By Sylph.Decimus 2012-11-29 20:40:08  
The point is Ryu's mentioned in every discussion about the best weapon or weapons in the game if you're speaking with people that have any knowledge of the game. It seems you're only now encountering these people.
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By Tickmeoff 2012-11-29 20:43:51  
How far behind other DDs is a DRG without Ryunohige, exactly?

Take a similarly geared WAR and DRG for example. If the WAR is capable of 1000 DPS, what should the DRG be capable of? 800-900 at best? Or is the job so much weaker inherently that it can't even put out 80% of what a WAR is capable of?
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