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 Odin.Sheelay
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By Odin.Sheelay 2012-07-11 18:18:20  
Lol, it won't end up into an argument because neither of the two will really allow it or lose an inch to their opinion.

The benefits of Bravura that were presented could still stand in scenarios where fights were being dragged in time. The comments you usually offer to any topic give the impression that "if there were 18 Minjo in the alliance, all would go nice and smooth" (yet horribly boring).

Perhaps if you showed less of an Absolute Top Notch behavior everywhere you posted you'd have less people having issues tolerating your sparkling personality. That is all, no further discussing needed.
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 Fenrir.Minjo
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-07-11 18:20:08  
Assuming people aren't creating builds around an evasion down proc is a stretch, I know.

God damn my standards!
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-07-11 18:23:34  
I was under the impression that the main use of Bravura is AH achievement points.
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 Fenrir.Terminus
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2012-07-11 18:54:43  
:(
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By Asura.Dajociont 2012-07-11 18:54:43  
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Assuming people aren't creating builds around an evasion down proc is a stretch, I know.

God damn my standards!

i guess i should stop wearing less pdt when amano's attack down is on the mob :(
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 Fenrir.Nightfyre
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-07-11 18:59:40  
I think the Kogarasumaru agrees with you.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha 2012-07-11 19:01:37  
Fenrir.Sylow said: »


Yesssssssssssss


EDIT THAT YO
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By Asura.Dajociont 2012-07-11 19:08:31  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
I think the Kogarasumaru agrees with you.

//stun

I CAN BREAK YOUR CUFFS
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By Phoenix.Mikumaru 2012-07-11 19:37:51  
Carbuncle.Tyleron said: »
I have bravura 99 and ukon 90. Outside of abysea I almost exclusively use bravura because the slight loss in my total DMg is significantly overwritten by the increase in DMg by other DDs due to def down and the occasional evasion down.

Not to even mention the ability to cap haste while under capped DT gear
this is a very interesting point since this is one of the more useful benefits i was thinkin of for Bravura . I would think the 2xDMG proc is some where similar to an Emp-under-Aftermath so this would help you enfeeble the Mob when tanking/Assist-tanking . More so in a low man situation .
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-07-11 20:00:10  
It's no where similar, really
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2012-07-11 20:11:02  
Not sure why you would comment on the very little things Bravura offers fisrt, then the DT second ;x

anyway we found Bravura to be really nice at Odin

Just giving a valid situation for it, unless of cause you wish to bring your 6SMN pty PD rotation.
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 Fenrir.Minjo
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-07-11 20:21:06  
I can't say I see why that's a valid situation for it.
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 Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2012-07-11 20:22:06  
kk
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-07-11 20:22:48  
DT macros are tough.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-07-11 20:26:38  
Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
kk

Your mastery over the informal rebuttal is truly breathtaking.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-07-11 20:30:21  
And lol@ the top of the page. There's nothing funnier than seeing all of the wrong people rating each other up in agreement regarding claims they're unable to substantiate.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2012-07-11 20:33:05  
oh, I just don't take you seriously enough to explain it you. Plus you -Most Likely- don't have any first hand experience, and probably never will.
Feel free to use the "Odin 2 drops not worth it" card, the card you hide behind as in reality, your LS can accomplish nothing.
 Fenrir.Minjo
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-07-11 20:34:13  
I DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN MYSELF TO YOU BRO
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-07-11 20:34:27  
This ***' guy, lol
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2012-07-11 20:37:56  
Not calling you a bro, buddy.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-07-11 20:39:54  
Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
Not sure why you would comment on the very little things Bravura offers fisrt, then the DT second ;x

anyway we found Bravura to be really nice at Odin

Just giving a valid situation for it, unless of cause you wish to bring your 6SMN pty PD rotation.
all i get out of this is "my ls can't kill fast enough to zerg so we have to rely on dumb ***like bravura aftermath and ochain to win"
 
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 Fenrir.Minjo
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-07-11 20:40:26  
It doesn't really matter what you call me unless there's an explanation of your silly claims attached to it.

Or just keep rating each other up. At least you can all be wrong together.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-07-11 20:41:09  
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
it's too bad MS upheaval can't self chain like Ukko's though. Really hurts that side of this argument for me in low man zerging

But hmm, if a sam Konzen-ittai'ed right before I MS upheaval it would make light right?

Yeah, but orchestrating these things in zergs can be complicated.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-07-11 20:41:36  
I hate myself for reading this.
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 Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2012-07-11 20:43:32  
Well, if you'll excuse I have events to do. You on the other hand probably don't. So, continue to post for mine and others amusement, I'll be sure to look back once we're done.
 Fenrir.Minjo
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-07-11 20:46:59  
Did you just real_nigga me?
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 Odin.Almont
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By Odin.Almont 2012-07-11 20:49:07  
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
And lol@ the top of the page. There's nothing funnier than seeing all of the wrong people rating each other up in agreement regarding claims they're unable to substantiate.

I'd say "interesting outlook" except there's nothing actually interesting in your continually trying to talk others down. Different groups, different setups, different availability, different overall utility.
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By alyria 2012-07-11 20:50:49  
:/ Really guys...stop and move along
 Fenrir.Minjo
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-07-11 20:52:18  
There's nothing interesting about people continually trying to mitigate their buyer's remorse with non-examples of when it's useful.

Make a Bravura if you want, but evasion down procs are virtually never beneficial, defense down procs are going to be resisted more often than not, and the -DT does not bypass any caps, and is therefor not useful for any prepared player.
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