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By Merlocke 2012-06-24 12:59:32  
ok i just got the all pink gear "Aurora" or w/e for my thf. im wearing all 5 pieces and....im still only getting 10tp per attack...what am i doing wrong here? theres supposed to be a Store TP bonus for wearing the whole set. and yes i made sure i had signet on :P any ideas?
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By Shiva.Keyera 2012-06-24 13:07:30  
dual wield jobs with tiny delay values gain less benefit from STP, iirc.
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By Asura.Ina 2012-06-24 13:09:19  
Not enough store tp to get a full point from one round.
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By Merlocke 2012-06-24 13:09:23  
o.O but at Store TP+8 shouldnt there be at least SOME gain?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-06-24 13:09:42  
lol.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Natlow 2012-06-24 13:10:44  
Zackan said: »
thats not how store tp works.

Store TP is after you USE a WS.. it 'saves' a set amount. in this case it save +8 more tp than it normally would.

If you want to test this.. take the gear off.. figh an easy mob.


USe the ws .. find out how much tp you START with AFTER you use the WS.

Put the gear back on... use the WS again.. you should START with +8 tp compared to what you did with the gear off

Do not listen to this person. You may be talking about conserve TP (having been out of the game for a long time, I'm not sure about the mechanics of it), but that is certainly not how store TP works.

Edit: I feel I should link to a thread that explains how it works properly, but alas, I don't know of any off-hand.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-06-24 13:11:17  
Merlocke said: »
o.O but at Store TP+8 shouldnt there be at least SOME gain?
Probably, but it's most likely only a tenths place decimal increase. What is all your store TP added up?
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By Merlocke 2012-06-24 13:11:28  
Zackan said: »
thats not how store tp works.

Store TP is after you USE a WS.. it 'saves' a set amount. in this case it save +8 more tp than it normally would.

If you want to test this.. take the gear off.. figh an easy mob.


USe the ws .. find out how much tp you START with AFTER you use the WS.

Put the gear back on... use the WS again.. you should START with +8 tp compared to what you did with the gear off

ooohhhh ok. well thats for explaining that :P that answers that i guess. / thread thanks guys
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By Asura.Ina 2012-06-24 13:11:31  
Zackan said: »
thats not how store tp works.

Store TP is after you USE a WS.. it 'saves' a set amount. in this case it save +8 more tp than it normally would.

If you want to test this.. take the gear off.. figh an easy mob.


USe the ws .. find out how much tp you START with AFTER you use the WS.

Put the gear back on... use the WS again.. you should START with +8 tp compared to what you did with the gear off
No... definetly not.
STP boosts the ammount of tp you are getting with each hit. 8 stp is going to get you less the .5 I think, someone else will have to get you the math.
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By Carbuncle.Jsbahamut 2012-06-24 13:11:59  
No, that's how save TP works.

Store TP plain adds a +% TP pet hit, given by the total store TP from equipment or job trait.

Aurore set is +8 so you'll get 8% more TP per hit (truncated after first digit).
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By Zackan 2012-06-24 13:12:05  
god dangit.. .... crawls back into my blm hole... why do i bother with melee jobs...
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-06-24 13:12:16  
Quetzalcoatl.Natlow said: »
Zackan said: »
thats not how store tp works.

Store TP is after you USE a WS.. it 'saves' a set amount. in this case it save +8 more tp than it normally would.

If you want to test this.. take the gear off.. figh an easy mob.


USe the ws .. find out how much tp you START with AFTER you use the WS.

Put the gear back on... use the WS again.. you should START with +8 tp compared to what you did with the gear off

Do not listen to this person. You may be talking about conserve TP (having been out of the game for a long time, I'm not sure about the mechanics of it), but that is certainly not how store TP works.
That's not even conserve TP, it's save TP.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Natlow 2012-06-24 13:12:31  
I hope he comes back to see how wrong that answer is.
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By Ramuh.Yarly 2012-06-24 13:12:42  
Zackan said: »
thats not how store tp works.

Store TP is after you USE a WS.. it 'saves' a set amount. in this case it save +8 more tp than it normally would.

If you want to test this.. take the gear off.. figh an easy mob.


USe the ws .. find out how much tp you START with AFTER you use the WS.

Put the gear back on... use the WS again.. you should START with +8 tp compared to what you did with the gear off

ITT: store tp is save tp

you heard it here first!
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By Merlocke 2012-06-24 13:12:59  
Quetzalcoatl.Natlow said: »
Zackan said: »
thats not how store tp works.

Store TP is after you USE a WS.. it 'saves' a set amount. in this case it save +8 more tp than it normally would.

If you want to test this.. take the gear off.. figh an easy mob.


USe the ws .. find out how much tp you START with AFTER you use the WS.

Put the gear back on... use the WS again.. you should START with +8 tp compared to what you did with the gear off

Do not listen to this person. You may be talking about conserve TP (having been out of the game for a long time, I'm not sure about the mechanics of it), but that is certainly not how store TP works.

Edit: I feel I should link to a thread that explains how it works properly, but alas, I don't know of any off-hand.

...now im just confussed lol and that gears my only Store TP gear i have atm
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2012-06-24 13:13:12  
Zackan said: »
thats not how store tp works.

Store TP is after you USE a WS.. it 'saves' a set amount. in this case it save +8 more tp than it normally would.

If you want to test this.. take the gear off.. figh an easy mob.


USe the ws .. find out how much tp you START with AFTER you use the WS.

Put the gear back on... use the WS again.. you should START with +8 tp compared to what you did with the gear off

This is not true; that is sort of what Save TP does. Store TP affects every hit.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-06-24 13:13:38  
It's store TP, if we knew what daggers you had it would be easy to tell you the difference.
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By Merlocke 2012-06-24 13:16:19  
Ramuh.Austar said: »
It's store TP, if we knew what daggers you had it would be easy to tell you the difference.

i have main/Heartsnatcher (and yes its unlocked) and sub/thfknife
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By Zackan 2012-06-24 13:16:53  
at least i had the right information for a trait that exists.. it just so happened to be the wrong one... melee jobs are still something new i am trying.. i am so use to be a nuker lol
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-06-24 13:17:18  
do you have any dualwield gear like suppanomimi and raider's boomerang?
 
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By Merlocke 2012-06-24 13:19:14  
Ramuh.Austar said: »
do you have any dualwield gear like suppanomimi and raider's boomerang?

no ; ; i have just now started to get better then basic gear for my thf. was away from the game for 3 years and i came back to find my lv75 gear was beyond gimp.
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By Zackan 2012-06-24 13:20:35  


i see i see.. Save TP... and its 'instead of' not 'in addition to' me gots it!
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-06-24 13:22:05  
4.7 TP per hit without aurore, and 5 with. 9.4 per round without is going to show up as 9 until after three rounds then it'll show as 10, and with aurore will always be 10 per round.
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By Ramuh.Yarly 2012-06-24 13:22:24  
Zackan said: »


i see i see.. Save TP... and its 'instead of' not 'in addition to' me gots it!

it actually used to be addition to, until a few updates ago...
 
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By Merlocke 2012-06-24 13:24:49  
Ramuh.Austar said: »
4.7 TP per hit without aurore, and 5 with. 9.4 per round without is going to show up as 9 until after three rounds then it'll show as 10, and with aurore will always be 10 per round.

yikes...well that certainly doesnt seem worth sticking to the set when i come across better gear for even one of the slots lol. well thank you guys for taking the time to explain this stuff. im slightly less of a thf/noob now :P
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By Zackan 2012-06-24 13:25:11  
Ramuh.Yarly said: »
Zackan said: »


i see i see.. Save TP... and its 'instead of' not 'in addition to' me gots it!

it actually used to be addition to, until a few updates ago...

so based on the knowledge in my head.. .it was correct.. not my fault they updated it lmao!
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