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 Leviathan.Tomoyasan
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By Leviathan.Tomoyasan 2012-07-31 11:49:01  
Cerberus.Tidis said: »
This just got posted on GW:


This is why we can't have nice things.
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By Asura.Yoyou 2012-07-31 11:50:35  
Atleast the jp winner got a mythic.

Waste of a rank #1, just that, move on, he can be proud over years for winning a relic, people will just laugh at it.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-07-31 11:51:30  
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I wish people would quit saying a relic takes a month. it's such BS. I could see 2-3 months if you are hardcore 18 hour-a-day gamer. for us casuals that live in reality, it's a year. don't get me wrong, this guy should've picked mythic anything, for obvious reasons, but it's really getting stupid how people think you can make a relic over the weekend, it's just not accurate. so if this guy has 2-4 hours a day to play, homeboy just saved himself a years worth of work, not that he shouldn't have saved himself 4-5 years of work, & got a mythic, but I makes my points.
If he has 2-4 hours a day to play he could have finished in 2 months or less just by running Dyna once a day. Idk where you're getting a year from

***lol. A casual gamer could make 5-6 a year.

A really casual gamer could manipulate prices and make a relic in weeks. Buy low, sell high, missprice single pieces as 100s. Look at the price of scarletite ingots on some servers vs. others. Someone said to themselves "there are a couple fools leveling a craft who would LOVE to be parted with their money on my server" and bought all the low price ones and put them back up high. ***Ragnarok is 60-70% higher than asura lol.

I would replace the term "casual" with either "stupid" or "lazy". The implication that all gamers who can accomplish something are virgin male neckbeard basement dwellers should have become extinct a decade ago.


Also, if someone is a "casual" gamer, why are you playing an MMO? The term "casual" gamer is at BEST an excuse used repetitiously to explain why some people can't get anything done in a game originally designed to target young teens.
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By Bismarck.Xzeikx 2012-07-31 11:53:43  
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
I wish people would quit saying a relic takes a month. it's such BS. I could see 2-3 months if you are hardcore 18 hour-a-day gamer. for us casuals that live in reality, it's a year. don't get me wrong, this guy should've picked mythic anything, for obvious reasons, but it's really getting stupid how people think you can make a relic over the weekend, it's just not accurate. so if this guy has 2-4 hours a day to play, homeboy just saved himself a years worth of work, not that he shouldn't have saved himself 4-5 years of work, & got a mythic, but I makes my points.
If he has 2-4 hours a day to play he could have finished in 2 months or less just by running Dyna once a day. Idk where you're getting a year from

***lol. A casual gamer could make 5-6 a year.

A really casual gamer could manipulate prices and make a relic in weeks. Buy low, sell high, missprice single pieces as 100s. Look at the price of scarletite ingots on some servers vs. others. Someone said to themselves "there are a couple fools leveling a craft who would LOVE to be parted with their money on my server" and bought all the low price ones and put them back up high. ***Ragnarok is 60-70% higher than asura lol.

I would replace the term "casual" with either "stupid" or "lazy". The implication that all gamers who can accomplish something are virgin male neckbeard basement dwellers should have become extinct a decade ago.


Also, if someone is a "casual" gamer, why are you playing an MMO? The term "casual" gamer is at BEST an excuse used repetitiously to explain why some people can't get anything done in a game originally designed to target young teens.


Ive made quite a bit this month with dyna only being on 4 days .. people are dumb and the buy low sell high ***is hilariously easy
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By Bismarck.Zagen 2012-07-31 11:53:50  
Siren.Mosin said: »
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
I wish people would quit saying a relic takes a month. it's such BS. I could see 2-3 months if you are hardcore 18 hour-a-day gamer. for us casuals that live in reality, it's a year. don't get me wrong, this guy should've picked mythic anything, for obvious reasons, but it's really getting stupid how people think you can make a relic over the weekend, it's just not accurate. so if this guy has 2-4 hours a day to play, homeboy just saved himself a years worth of work, not that he shouldn't have saved himself 4-5 years of work, & got a mythic, but I makes my points.
If he has 2-4 hours a day to play he could have finished in 2 months or less just by running Dyna once a day. Idk where you're getting a year from

casually building spharai, & it taking 6 months so far.

18,100 (rough number, changes depending on relic) / 150 (easy to get on bst if you're a decent player) = 121 (rounded up) days or 4 months...

So if you spent 0 gil on currency it would take 4 months at 2hours a day...
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By Bismarck.Ruizutatakau 2012-07-31 11:55:44  
Bismarck.Xzeikx said: »
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
I wish people would quit saying a relic takes a month. it's such BS. I could see 2-3 months if you are hardcore 18 hour-a-day gamer. for us casuals that live in reality, it's a year. don't get me wrong, this guy should've picked mythic anything, for obvious reasons, but it's really getting stupid how people think you can make a relic over the weekend, it's just not accurate. so if this guy has 2-4 hours a day to play, homeboy just saved himself a years worth of work, not that he shouldn't have saved himself 4-5 years of work, & got a mythic, but I makes my points.
If he has 2-4 hours a day to play he could have finished in 2 months or less just by running Dyna once a day. Idk where you're getting a year from

***lol. A casual gamer could make 5-6 a year.

A really casual gamer could manipulate prices and make a relic in weeks. Buy low, sell high, missprice single pieces as 100s. Look at the price of scarletite ingots on some servers vs. others. Someone said to themselves "there are a couple fools leveling a craft who would LOVE to be parted with their money on my server" and bought all the low price ones and put them back up high. ***Ragnarok is 60-70% higher than asura lol.

I would replace the term "casual" with either "stupid" or "lazy". The implication that all gamers who can accomplish something are virgin male neckbeard basement dwellers should have become extinct a decade ago.


Also, if someone is a "casual" gamer, why are you playing an MMO? The term "casual" gamer is at BEST an excuse used repetitiously to explain why some people can't get anything done in a game originally designed to target young teens.


Ive made quite a bit this month with dyna only being on 4 days .. people are dumb and the buy low sell high ***is hilariously easy
ninja edit on that 50M.
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By Quiznor 2012-07-31 11:56:18  
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I laugh at all the people who said they'd /wrist over someone winning a relic over mythic.

Werent you also the guy who said you'd pick a relic because you didnt wanna be pigeon holed into one job? Yet,multijob relics are useless for all but 1 job on them nearly....except probably just the bow.

Anyways I'm 99% gutted someone picked a relic and won.and 1% happy that its not some noob or(more likely) a bandwagoner with a free mythic.

Edit: Oh,and GS
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By Asura.Cevlina 2012-07-31 11:56:53  
So all the prizes are out now? I logged on after seeing this thread jump up 10 pages overnight. I got a Rank 5 prize. Better then nothing, I suppose.
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By Sylph.Hitsukun 2012-07-31 11:58:00  
Am I the only one that feels grief looking at this controversy from a mid-2000s perspective? The sight of any relic weapon being called a "waste" is just sad.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-07-31 11:58:04  
When did prizes actually get distributed?

Checked my delivery box at like 7:20 a.m. this morning (EST) and there was nothing from the moogles.

Did I get boned?
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By Bismarck.Ruizutatakau 2012-07-31 11:58:39  
Was like midnight when it happened. You were boned.
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By Ragnarok.Legendarycloud 2012-07-31 11:59:16  
Saw my marrows in the box at 4:00 a.m. EST, so yeah, I think you got squat :/
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By Phoenix.Seshat 2012-07-31 12:00:06  
They started going out around 2:30 AM EST. Went into full swing by about 4:30~ or so.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-07-31 12:00:30  
Bismarck.Ruizutatakau said: »
Was like midnight when it happened. You were boned.

So much rage. Nowhere to place it.

Meh.
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By Bismarck.Zagen 2012-07-31 12:00:41  
Sylph.Hitsukun said: »
Am I the only one that feels grief looking at this controversy from a mid-2000s perspective? The sight of any relic weapon being called a "waste" is just sad.
It isn't the relic itself being a waste, it's the choice of a relic when you could have picked a mythic weapon which takes more time and is more of a pain to do (or can be anyways). And in many cases the Mythic > Relic for most jobs.
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By Sylph.Hitsukun 2012-07-31 12:01:15  
Quiznor said: »
Sylph.Hitsukun said: »
I laugh at all the people who said they'd /wrist over someone winning a relic over mythic.
Werent you also the guy who said you'd pick a relic because you didnt wanna be pigeon holed into one job? Yet,multijob relics are useless for all but 1 job on them nearly....except probably just the bow.
I'm not sure that I understand. Are you trying to show that my reasoning is unjustified? Because what's better for a given job is irrelevant to my reasoning.
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By Ragnarok.Blurrski 2012-07-31 12:01:28  
q to you guys that do a lot of provenance, how rare would you say adamas is ? Ive yet to do any, and I dont think Ive really seen to many ppl holding it.
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By Asura.Tamoa 2012-07-31 12:02:10  
Siren.Mosin said: »
I wish people would quit saying a relic takes a month. it's such BS. I could see 2-3 months if you are hardcore 18 hour-a-day gamer. for us casuals that live in reality, it's a year.

don't get me wrong, this guy should've picked mythic anything, for obvious reasons, but it's really getting stupid how people think you can make a relic over the weekend, it's just not accurate.

so if this guy has 2-4 hours a day to play, homeboy just saved himself a years worth of work, not that he shouldn't have saved himself 4-5 years of work, & got a mythic, but I makes my points.

Took me exactly 5 weeks to get 75 amano, and that was doing dynamis 4 days a week tops (other 3 days a week I do ADL with my ls), the rest of the currency I bought - and I'm not loaded with gil by any means. If it takes you a whole damn year to finish a relic today, you're doing it very very VERY wrong.

Edit: since someone in my ls pointed it out to me, let me add that I duoed dynamis 4 days a week for my currency, thf and bst. But even if you solo, no way is it taking you a whole damn year.
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By Siren.Mosin 2012-07-31 12:02:40  

those #'s are very realistic. I guess a large portion of my problem/arguement is that I'm giving all shells to a buddy for guttler. plus, I try to make it everyday, but don't. 4 months solo seems about right solo with no buying. I'm lazy it looks like. I still stand by my silly *** opinion, you have too much time on your hands if you're done in a month.
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By Quiznor 2012-07-31 12:02:57  
Sylph.Hitsukun said: »
Quiznor said: »
Sylph.Hitsukun said: »
I laugh at all the people who said they'd /wrist over someone winning a relic over mythic.
Werent you also the guy who said you'd pick a relic because you didnt wanna be pigeon holed into one job? Yet,multijob relics are useless for all but 1 job on them nearly....except probably just the bow.
I'm not sure that I understand. Are you trying to show that my reasoning is unjustified? Because what's better for a given job is irrelevant to my reasoning.

I guess the idea of using a useless and/or inferior weapon on a 2nd job just because I can is an alien concept to me
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-07-31 12:04:45  
Sylph.Hitsukun said: »
Am I the only one that feels grief looking at this controversy from a mid-2000s perspective? The sight of any relic weapon being called a "waste" is just sad.

Some relics were a waste even then.

Still: If I'm being totally honest (which is hard to do being as I wanted liberator sooo bad) I'd rather someone get ***who will appreciate it, regardless of what it means to you or I. Sav got a Toci's this morning and seemed elated. If I would have gotten mekira body, it would've been more of "onice I don't have to do this VW next". I just try to keep it at "i lost and I don't wanna know what someone else did with their winnings" lol.
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2012-07-31 12:12:17  
Siren.Mosin said: »

those #'s are very realistic. I guess a large portion of my problem/arguement is that I'm giving all shells to a buddy for guttler. plus, I try to make it everyday, but don't. 4 months solo seems about right solo with no buying. I'm lazy it looks like. I still stand by my silly *** opinion, you have too much time on your hands if you're done in a month.
I'm in the same boat. The first month or so of Dyna was smooth. I should've finished my Aegis no later than February beginning of March. As it stands now, I'm just now approaching the 50% mark on Silverpieces (over 50% if I were to get the last 30 loaned). We are burned out on Dynamis, and we buy cheaper currency when we see it. Hell, some days I want to say "*** it" and sell the currency.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-07-31 12:14:02  
I still think AA weapons/Athena orbs should have been consolation prizes
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By Bahamut.Savannahlynn 2012-07-31 12:14:37  
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Sylph.Hitsukun said: »
Am I the only one that feels grief looking at this controversy from a mid-2000s perspective? The sight of any relic weapon being called a "waste" is just sad.

Some relics were a waste even then.

Still: If I'm being totally honest (which is hard to do being as I wanted liberator sooo bad) I'd rather someone get ***who will appreciate it, regardless of what it means to you or I. Sav got a Toci's this morning and seemed elated. If I would have gotten mekira body, it would've been more of "onice I don't have to do this VW next". I just try to keep it at "i lost and I don't wanna know what someone else did with their winnings" lol.
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Siren.Mosin said: »

those #'s are very realistic. I guess a large portion of my problem/arguement is that I'm giving all shells to a buddy for guttler. plus, I try to make it everyday, but don't. 4 months solo seems about right solo with no buying. I'm lazy it looks like. I still stand by my silly *** opinion, you have too much time on your hands if you're done in a month.
I'm in the same boat. The first month or so of Dyna was smooth. I should've finished my Aegis no later than February beginning of March. As it stands now, I'm just now approaching the 50% mark on Silverpieces (over 50% if I were to get the last 30 loaned). We are burned out on Dynamis, and we buy cheaper currency when we see it. Hell, some days I want to say "*** it" and sell the currency.

Too bad I won't let you sell it ever! Lol :D
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By Lakshmi.Antonios 2012-07-31 12:14:37  
Bahamut.Krizz said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »

those #'s are very realistic. I guess a large portion of my problem/arguement is that I'm giving all shells to a buddy for guttler. plus, I try to make it everyday, but don't. 4 months solo seems about right solo with no buying. I'm lazy it looks like. I still stand by my silly *** opinion, you have too much time on your hands if you're done in a month.
I'm in the same boat. The first month or so of Dyna was smooth. I should've finished my Aegis no later than February beginning of March. As it stands now, I'm just now approaching the 50% mark on Silverpieces (over 50% if I were to get the last 30 loaned). We are burned out on Dynamis, and we buy cheaper currency when we see it. Hell, some days I want to say "*** it" and sell the currency.
Same thing happened to me Burned out and just hunt the cheapest deals i can get my hands on
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By Asura.Yoyou 2012-07-31 12:18:12  
Sylph.Hitsukun said: »
Am I the only one that feels grief looking at this controversy from a mid-2000s perspective? The sight of any relic weapon being called a "waste" is just sad.

Sad but true, fact.
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2012-07-31 12:20:49  
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Siren.Mosin said: »
I wish people would quit saying a relic takes a month. it's such BS. I could see 2-3 months if you are hardcore 18 hour-a-day gamer. for us casuals that live in reality, it's a year.

don't get me wrong, this guy should've picked mythic anything, for obvious reasons, but it's really getting stupid how people think you can make a relic over the weekend, it's just not accurate.

so if this guy has 2-4 hours a day to play, homeboy just saved himself a years worth of work, not that he shouldn't have saved himself 4-5 years of work, & got a mythic, but I makes my points.

Took me exactly 5 weeks to get 75 amano, and that was doing dynamis 4 days a week tops (other 3 days a week I do ADL with my ls), the rest of the currency I bought - and I'm not loaded with gil by any means. If it takes you a whole damn year to finish a relic today, you're doing it very very VERY wrong.

Edit: since someone in my ls pointed it out to me, let me add that I duoed dynamis 4 days a week for my currency, thf and bst. But even if you solo, no way is it taking you a whole damn year.

Bravo!! You must have very close friends in game.
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By Shiva.Sleih 2012-07-31 12:22:33  
That could have been my Yagrush. :( Oh well, grats on a slot eater.
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By Tiipapa08 2012-07-31 12:22:40  
I'm very bitter that after 10 years I got squat not even a rank 5 prize, and yet more than a few got double prizes on two accounts. That's all kinds of screwed up! Yes I'm hating >_>;
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By Ragnarok.Dankiller 2012-07-31 12:22:59  
I don't understand ppl won prize Rank 1 get
Relic wtf !!! Why not get mystic cause it hard to get.
Namis and relic is easy now.
/sigh!
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