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 Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-06-23 21:29:39
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Ragnarok.Hevans said: »
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
RDM was lackluster in every FF game once you hit the midway point, get off it's *** already.

So did WHM and BLM, I don't see your point.
WHM and BLM are both useful depending on the game. RDM was always crap.


xi used to be the one place rdm shined!
That's just a bedtime story :(
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By Carbuncle.Ambivalent 2012-06-23 21:29:46
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
RDM was lackluster in every FF game once you hit the midway point, get off it's *** already.

So did WHM and BLM, I don't see your point.

I cant think of a FF game where a dedicated BLM was lackluster.

Final Fantasy I
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy IX (At the end)
Final Fantasy X
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2012-06-23 21:29:50
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Runic Fencer. Nice. Better than onion knight for sure!

Perhaps this might just be the mage tank?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-06-23 21:30:01
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Ragnarok.Kongming said: »
it's a tank job
Wait, what?

I just went from mildly curious to not sure if want.
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By Phoenix.Baelorn 2012-06-23 21:30:22
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Oh hell, there went my stream.

So it begins.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-06-23 21:30:29
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It makes sense considering how Runic works, a magic-based tank...
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By Asura.Isiolia 2012-06-23 21:30:48
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Ragnarok.Kongming said: »
it's a tank job
Wait, what?

So PLD gets (further) sidelined too. Yay!

Add more, fix less.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-06-23 21:31:01
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
RDM was lackluster in every FF game once you hit the midway point, get off it's *** already.

So did WHM and BLM, I don't see your point.

I cant think of a FF game where a dedicated BLM was lackluster.

Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy 9
Final Fantasy 10
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By Sylph.Nephriel 2012-06-23 21:31:16
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I also heard it was a tank job from someone else watching the stream. That certainly would be interesting. Can talk about how PLDs are outclassed again!
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By Bahamut.Weasel 2012-06-23 21:31:19
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Ragnarok.Kongming said: »
The kanji they've used are exactly the same as Mystic Knight, were Celes and the character in tactics was actually ルーンナイト in JP which explains the translation error in the latter game.

Also since they're saying it's a tank job, I think mystic knight is a more fitting name..

It's actually not. Mystic Knight is 魔法剣士, Rune Fencer that they've announced is 魔導剣士.
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By Cerberus.Sevvy 2012-06-23 21:31:43
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Wait until the English translation comes out before we start throwing out "what this job is." I am sure we have people who speak fluent JP but they arent contributing.

I must say I am very interested in the timeline they are showing. Have to wait about an hour!
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By Phoenix.Baelorn 2012-06-23 21:31:55
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Carbuncle.Ambivalent said: »
Final Fantasy I
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy IX (At the end)
Final Fantasy X

Vivi never became useless. Not even against Ozma.

AoE spells were king in most random fights and using Reflect to increase your spell damage was the best way to beat a lot of the tougher enemies.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-06-23 21:32:07
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Carbuncle.Ambivalent said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
RDM was lackluster in every FF game once you hit the midway point, get off it's *** already.

So did WHM and BLM, I don't see your point.

I cant think of a FF game where a dedicated BLM was lackluster.

Final Fantasy I
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy IX (At the end)
Final Fantasy X

Not even close to lackluster.
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By Siren.Vahriel 2012-06-23 21:32:18
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Why are all you peoplecomplaining "RDM is Dead, this and that" when you do't even know one damn thing about it yet. Stop complainining until 2013, when, you know, it's actually playable, then you can see what it does. Like, seriously...
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2012-06-23 21:32:50
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lmao, WAR vs Crabs!

Whoa, we can play monsters?
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By Ragnarok.Kongming 2012-06-23 21:32:55
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Bahamut.Weasel said: »
Ragnarok.Kongming said: »
The kanji they've used are exactly the same as Mystic Knight, were Celes and the character in tactics was actually ルーンナイト in JP which explains the translation error in the latter game.

Also since they're saying it's a tank job, I think mystic knight is a more fitting name..

It's actually not. Mystic Knight is 魔法剣士, Rune Fencer that they've announced is 魔導剣士.
You're right, I missed that. Still, the meaning is identical.
 
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-06-23 21:33:21
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
RDM was lackluster in every FF game once you hit the midway point, get off it's *** already.

So did WHM and BLM, I don't see your point.

I cant think of a FF game where a dedicated BLM was lackluster.

Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy 9
Final Fantasy 10
Vivi is amazing for Ozma.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2012-06-23 21:33:36
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Anyone able to explain this..letting us become mobs thing?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-06-23 21:33:57
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Leviathan.Korialstrasz said: »
New expansion? Lets *** about RDM.
New zones? Lets *** about RDM.
New jobs? Lets *** about RDM.

How about shut the *** up about RDM?

I'm only joking around about the demise of RDM but the fact is that no other job has fallen so far, so fast.

Paladin comes close but RDM? Looking like a washed up sports star at this point.
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By Carbuncle.Ambivalent 2012-06-23 21:34:03
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Carbuncle.Ambivalent said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
RDM was lackluster in every FF game once you hit the midway point, get off it's *** already.

So did WHM and BLM, I don't see your point.

I cant think of a FF game where a dedicated BLM was lackluster.

Final Fantasy I
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy IX (At the end)
Final Fantasy X

Not even close to lackluster.


Final Fantasy I - Warriors did more consistently and didn't die.
Final Fantasy V - SMN did more, Mime did even more again, Freelancer was even better again.
Final Fantasy IX (At the end) - Doomsday was consistently out damaged by any of the 9999 abilities.
Final Fantasy X - Black Magic was pointless and physical attacks with elemental weapons did more. At dark aeons+ you wouldn't touch it.
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By Phoenix.Scrynth 2012-06-23 21:34:12
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PVP
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By Cerberus.Thore 2012-06-23 21:34:22
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Its probably that play as a monster thing, or w/e its called.
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By Phoenix.Morier 2012-06-23 21:34:26
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blm in tactics was awesome
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-06-23 21:35:23
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This play as a monster thing looks awesome and stupid at the same time
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By Phoenix.Baelorn 2012-06-23 21:35:27
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Paladin comes close but RDM? Looking like a washed up sports star at this point.

I don't know about that. I never see PLDs unless they have Empys/Relics/etc but I still see RDMs *** everywhere.

They may not be king anymore but people still use them a lot.
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By Bismarck.Ruizutatakau 2012-06-23 21:35:57
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Cerberus.Sevvy said: »
Wait until the English translation comes out before we start throwing out "what this job is." I am sure we have people who speak fluent JP but they arent contributing.

I must say I am very interested in the timeline they are showing. Have to wait about an hour!
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-06-23 21:36:20
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Various stages of evolution
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By Ragnarok.Kongming 2012-06-23 21:36:30
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
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it's a tank job
Wait, what?

I just went from mildly curious to not sure if want.
They compared it to PLD and NIN how both had different approaches to tanking like defense and evasion, and RUN(RNF? lol) will focus on elemental resistance. It also uses runes, they made it sound like expendable items (like cards or tools) but I'm not sure on that one, but they power your abilities toward a particular element, giving both attack and defense properties of that element.
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By Bismarck.Moonlightespada 2012-06-23 21:36:41
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notice it says HNM >:#
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