Most likely good news and time to rejoice for those people who hate FC leech parties and a warning to anyone who partakes in the obvious RMT FC experience points parties. GM's are starting to crack down on them due to people complaining they are monopolizing all the monsters in a given area. If you want to get rid of them, apparently this is how you do it and not by claiming you think they are RMT.
In last than a day two out of the three of Bahamut's normal FC groups have vanished. Last night they were looking for a 'keyer' so I took up the offer to help get my whm mule's blm up higher for procs when I two box. About 45 minutes into my time in the group, the WAR and RDM in Altep both vanished (no d/c symbol) and the taru taking gil in Jeuno did as well.
They showed in our alliance list for nearly an hour but we could not send them a /tell directly (said "player is offline"). A few of the people who just recently paid were there and waited around for about an hour but the rest of the others were all afk obviously. Three people paid 800k and got less than an hour, one person got about 5 hours. The rest afk. I wasted a bunch of keys and only got about 4 levels on my mule :P
A few of the paying players called a GM to report a possible trade scam. GM said in /say at Altep they were investigating the issue that our group is monopolizing all the monsters and preventing others from spawning the NM there.
After about 2 hours, of random afk my time came close to dropping below 120 minutes left so I warped. This morning I logged on to find a completely new set of FC'ers shouting, a new WAR (with pretty gimp gear this time), and they are claiming "Connection Lost Yesterday". Now it's a ***storm in /shouts and /yell that they don't offer refunds for last night because they aren't the same people. Some say GM's have refunded their money, some say they haven't got a reply.
GM's Cracking Down On FC For Gil Services
GM's cracking down on FC for Gil services
A little late to the party SE.
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Why must people always whine and ruin good things? RMT finally find a way to do what they do and actually contribute to the community instead of cockblocking NMs or whatnot, and people *** and moan.
RMT aren't going anywhere. Might as well keep them where they're offering us a legitimate service instead of competing with us for limited resources, dumping gil into the economy, or screwing with the auction house.
RMT aren't going anywhere. Might as well keep them where they're offering us a legitimate service instead of competing with us for limited resources, dumping gil into the economy, or screwing with the auction house.
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Lakshmi had an influx of people trolling and scamming that might have ruined it for the (amusingly) more legitimate RMT cleavers.
Usually I see them put the pi on bazaar for sale so I don't think it's that big of an issue and the ones I run to leave some mobs left to me after I asked him in a tell. Not promoting RMT, but like above said monopolization is far fetched. Though I do guess there's really no way for GM to pin them as RMT besides that? idk :P
By all means, I'm sure some of them are RMT's but from hosting one myself I know that not all are, granted I;ve only done one and it was just 5hrs as opposed to daily 9+ hrs.
I know on Sylph there have been a lot of new people shouting doing FC. I've yet to join in on any of the new names I've seen. I only trust one of the names that shout and I usually get exactly what I pay for.
The first time with a new shouter is always a gamble, so I usually avoid it.
As far as monopolizing mobs I don't believe it. There are always plenty of stragglers at the mis coast camp to allow other people to get some. I know when I hosted one there was a PLD there pulling at least 4-5 of his own to skillup on / get pop items from. /shrug
People won't be happy without there drama
I know on Sylph there have been a lot of new people shouting doing FC. I've yet to join in on any of the new names I've seen. I only trust one of the names that shout and I usually get exactly what I pay for.
The first time with a new shouter is always a gamble, so I usually avoid it.
As far as monopolizing mobs I don't believe it. There are always plenty of stragglers at the mis coast camp to allow other people to get some. I know when I hosted one there was a PLD there pulling at least 4-5 of his own to skillup on / get pop items from. /shrug
People won't be happy without there drama
What a bunch of douches some of you are, GM'ing people for cleaving.
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It's not the best XP/hr (RMT FC), but it's the only way to legitimately get massive amounts of XP while asleep!
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iFunny thing is that in a recent FC saw.. a BLU was taking the cleavers mobs by CW'ing.. GM just laughed and left the BLU to it as "yellow mob is fair game"
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Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
What a bunch of douches some of you are, GM'ing people for cleaving.
I had JPs GM me for cleaving bats for a magian trial once. I told them it was a common tactic, even amongst Japanese players. They legitimately tried to convince me that JP players never cleave anything.
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sprinkles84 said: »
iFunny thing is that in a recent FC saw.. a BLU was taking the cleavers mobs by CW'ing.. GM just laughed and left the BLU to it as "yellow mob is fair game"
Yeah, since the majority of the mobs on the FC party are yellow... I don't really see it as a "Monopolization" anyone could come by and snag a mob as they are gathering them up....
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I really don't see why people complain about the shouting by RMT cleavers, either. If a repetitive shout is somehow disrupting your auction house / bazaar browsing and/or afking, then I don't know what to tell you.
It's not like there are only a limited number of shouts permitted per zone.
It's not like there are only a limited number of shouts permitted per zone.
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I would note that for the most part, if you are trying to get some pop items for an NM, the party usually has a few people who bazaar the pop item for 1 gil. I have never realy had an FC party infringe upon anything I was doing. I feel sorry for the people who lost their gil. It's the risk you take though.
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
I really don't see why people complain about the shouting by RMT cleavers, either. If a repetitive shout is somehow disrupting your auction house / bazaar browsing and/or afking, then I don't know what to tell you.
It's not like there are only a limited number of shouts permitted per zone.
It's not like there are only a limited number of shouts permitted per zone.
lol there are so many funny things that come to mind, but I'm just going to say lolabyssea and move on.
This old song and dance? :o
RMTs won't ever go away and this is probably the most legit/least annoying/most helpful way they've ever made gil.
Better than having them hack your account and take your gil or claim that NM over you.
Edit: Doesn't really sound like he was complaining. Just kinda saying what happened. What I said above is really for anyone who's like "omg RMT wtfbbq"
RMTs won't ever go away and this is probably the most legit/least annoying/most helpful way they've ever made gil.
Better than having them hack your account and take your gil or claim that NM over you.
Edit: Doesn't really sound like he was complaining. Just kinda saying what happened. What I said above is really for anyone who's like "omg RMT wtfbbq"
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said: »
I think OP forgot to fill this out
In OP defense, he merely stated what had happened, I did not take it as him complaining or being butt hurt.. no need to start ***.
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I never really saw the problem, to be honest. They didn't bother me, I didn't bother them. I never used FC services.
Ramuh.Laffter said: »
I never really saw the problem, to be honest. They didn't bother me, I didn't bother them. I never used FC services.
This. Don't like them? DON'T USE THEM.
The amount of complaining that happens whenever a shout pops up...
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I'm inclined to bet that the number of people they "hurt" is much, much smaller than those who use their service.
Well first up I wouldnt try compete with them, i'm sure others do have the time but I don't really want to be doing something like that for 5+ hours at a time.
But if I did,
Mandies -Altepa
Thoese big tree things - Altepa
Surveyors - Ule
Apkallu - mis
Thats just off the top of my head in a min or two from where I have seen them, if I was going to be that serious i'm sure i would look into other options.
As others have said, the playerbase they affect negativly would be the much smaller than those they affect positively
But if I did,
Mandies -Altepa
Thoese big tree things - Altepa
Surveyors - Ule
Apkallu - mis
Thats just off the top of my head in a min or two from where I have seen them, if I was going to be that serious i'm sure i would look into other options.
As others have said, the playerbase they affect negativly would be the much smaller than those they affect positively
The only camp I care about is the mandy camp in Altepa because it's such an excellent skill up camp. If cleavers stay away from that one then there's really no reason to complain.
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