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Dark Souls & other Souls-Likes
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2013-07-29 21:33:23
I'm very thorough when I play games, so going 40 hours a playthrough isn't uncommon for me.
At least twelve hours of my playtime was trying to find the Tomb of the Giants... Please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks the entrance is hard as *** to find if you don't know where it already is... I found it pretty easily my first time through, but it was scary as fk for me with no light source...
I made it through, made me love the area so much because of that experience.
You guys are like Savants or I'm going blind. I really think the entrance to ToG is one of the best examples of poor level design ever, there's no clear indicator that the entrance is in the Pinwheel arena. (One of only two bosses that never killed me btw, Second being Seathe)
I probably never would have gotten through the game without a walkthrough if a piece of obscure dialog hadn't mentioned ToG being through the catacombs, which caused Resident Evil syndrome where I walked along the whole wall of the entire *** zone looking for something.
Discovering the Order you're supposed to do certain encounters in Dark Souls was one of the cool things about it though. It felt very organic (Aside from aforementioned Tomb of the Giants) without so much Hand Holding. If I had to compare it to something, I'd say the old Zelda games, where you get new items that unlock new areas in old places or new areas altogether, but it's not as restricting as the Zelda games where.
The game allows you to *** up, and badly, which I actually like believe it or not.
By Kalila 2013-07-29 21:37:24
Dark Souls has poor level design? ._.;
*sits in my corner* ._.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2013-07-29 21:40:27
Dark Souls has poor level design? ._.;
*sits in my corner* ._.
I thought I was clear, I meant just in that one instance. There's others I'm sure, but there's poor level design in places of just about every game. Overall, the level design of Dark Souls is fantastic.
Another favorite example of poor level design is in Skyrim. If you own that game, or have access to it, find the dungeon "Orotheim" to see the most patronizing piece of level design ever. It's so bad, I can't tell if it's an inside joke or super-serious "We're proud of this" work...
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2013-07-29 21:41:18
"instead of choosing an ending just go live with Priscilla or something" :< She likes me better though :< Nuh-uh, she offered me her fluffy tail! I'll fight both of you for her love! At the same time!
you're on >:O
Foolish undead, I am THE defender of the Painted World!
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By Kalila 2013-07-29 21:43:38
"instead of choosing an ending just go live with Priscilla or something" :< She likes me better though :< Nuh-uh, she offered me her fluffy tail! I'll fight both of you for her love! At the same time!
you're on >:O
Foolish undead, I am THE defender of the Painted World!
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Bismarck.Misao
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By Bismarck.Misao 2013-07-29 21:46:30
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2013-07-29 21:48:56
"instead of choosing an ending just go live with Priscilla or something" :< She likes me better though :< Nuh-uh, she offered me her fluffy tail! I'll fight both of you for her love! At the same time!
you're on >:O
Foolish undead, I am THE defender of the Painted World!
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By Kalila 2013-07-29 21:49:54
"instead of choosing an ending just go live with Priscilla or something" :< She likes me better though :< Nuh-uh, she offered me her fluffy tail! I'll fight both of you for her love! At the same time!
you're on >:O
Foolish undead, I am THE defender of the Painted World!
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2013-07-29 21:54:40
"instead of choosing an ending just go live with Priscilla or something" :< She likes me better though :< Nuh-uh, she offered me her fluffy tail! I'll fight both of you for her love! At the same time!
you're on >:O
Foolish undead, I am THE defender of the Painted World!
YouTube Video Placeholder I have no cool videos to post, but if I did, I'd post it here! Well, if you ever get the PS3 or PC version I can make a compilation video of all the time you kill me! PS3 demon's souls, but I need to get in the mood to play it. I haven't been in a gaming mood at all lately. Ooh, that'd work too. Whenever you find yourself in the mood to fight to the death... Lemme know :D
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Quetzalcoatl.Landsoul
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By Quetzalcoatl.Landsoul 2013-07-29 22:42:08
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Don't mind me attempting to 1HKO a boss :P
By Enuyasha 2013-07-29 23:42:18
Silver Knight Archers, why you so douchey D:
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By Bahamut.Rulerofdarkness 2013-07-29 23:50:23
I killed Priscilla. Mwahaha!
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By Enuyasha 2013-07-30 04:45:03
Smough and ornstein are *** ('~') just complete and utter *** ('~')
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2013-07-30 05:03:48
I found that killing them together as close to possible (relative to time) is the best way to kill Fatty and Pokey.
If you simply can't deal with a two on one, Fatty is really fast despite his girth, but he is very easy to predict in terms of attack patterns. If you kill Fatty first, you're left with a supercharged Dragoon that pins you in a wall and takes you out with his lightning spear.
By Enuyasha 2013-07-30 05:17:30
I found that killing them together as close to possible (relative to time) is the best way to kill Fatty and Pokey.
If you simply can't deal with a two on one, Fatty is really fast despite his girth, but he is very easy to predict in terms of attack patterns. If you kill Fatty first, you're left with a supercharged Dragoon that pins you in a wall and takes you out with his lightning spear. I want my DRG armor first ('~') Ornstein is a squishy bitchwhore ('~')
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By Bahamut.Rulerofdarkness 2013-07-30 05:29:44
Carbuncle.Josiahfk said: »I'm almost done my solaire lvl 119 build ruler, want to pvp you on it soon! Just need to grind enough exp to get these last 40 levels bleh
What system? I can instantly give you enough souls to hit level 200ish on any of them.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2013-07-30 05:32:21
I found that killing them together as close to possible (relative to time) is the best way to kill Fatty and Pokey.
If you simply can't deal with a two on one, Fatty is really fast despite his girth, but he is very easy to predict in terms of attack patterns. If you kill Fatty first, you're left with a supercharged Dragoon that pins you in a wall and takes you out with his lightning spear. I want my DRG armor first ('~') Ornstein is a squishy bitchwhore ('~')
Yeah, the implication was that Ornstein should be the first to die. Smough alone, even supercharged is no threat, especially if you have a ranged weapon. As a pair, Ornstein works well with Smough to funnel you into really bad spots, letting fatshit take you out. He can pick away at your health, but the Estus Flask is enough to deal with anything Ornstein can do by himself so it's best to take several hits from him, as opposed to one from Smough, if those are your two options.
Then again, I really blew at this game. I didn't even use a divine weapon when fighting Nito. So I always had him + Skeleton horde. Somehow it only took two tries.
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By Bahamut.Rulerofdarkness 2013-07-30 05:43:30
Smough and ornstein are *** ('~') just complete and utter *** ('~')
What system and what level are you. I can pretty much help on any system. Whether through actual Co-op, or through item boosts.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2013-07-30 05:47:50
Doesn't getting "Help" kind of defeat the "Overcome the overwhelming challenge" design goal of Dark Souls?
I solo'd the whole game entirely blind (No walkthroughs or Guides, either mechanical or battle strategy), so I had no idea what the *** I was doing the whole time. You should have seen me on my first trip to New Londo ruins. "WHY CANT I HIT THE *** GHOSTS?!?!?!?" Flying blind was a choice, and I learned most everything (rarely) through logical deduction, or through Trial and Error. Lots and lots of error... I'm sure I could find my way through 90% of that game with the screen powered off.
By Enuyasha 2013-07-30 06:13:14
Bahamut.Rulerofdarkness said: »Smough and ornstein are *** ('~') just complete and utter *** ('~')
What system and what level are you. I can pretty much help on any system. Whether through actual Co-op, or through item boosts. PS3, same PSN type name as my xbox tag. I really need more stats i think than items...I somehow missed the lightning spear from the Mimic in Sen's though ('~')
Derp: im level...63? let me turn on my PS3 again >_>;
confirmed 62 :<
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By Bahamut.Rulerofdarkness 2013-07-30 06:19:53
If he wants help he is welcome to it. If he doesn't, then that's fine as well. I'm merely offering since some people might not have the time to farm up to a higher level or to farm that +10 weapon or whatever.
While once you do get the hang of it. There isn't anything hard about the game. For some people this can take an amount of time they don't have.
By Enuyasha 2013-07-30 08:12:46
beaten with the halp of 2 random phantoms :<
they killed smough first ._.
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By Bahamut.Rulerofdarkness 2013-07-30 08:17:28
beaten with the halp of 2 random phantoms :<
they killed smough first ._.
I take it you were wanting his soul/armour for sale?
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By Lakshmi.Silentdeath 2013-07-30 08:23:35
Only 17 hours to clear Dark Souls? Did I suck that bad, or did you have tons of walkthroughs? I must have clocked at least 40 on my first and only playthrough.
I have played Dark souls a lot. I have about 500 hours in the game, easy. So when I decided to do a SL1 run I already knew where all the places were and I decided before hand what gear I wanted to use.
By Enuyasha 2013-07-30 08:28:53
Bahamut.Rulerofdarkness said: »beaten with the halp of 2 random phantoms :<
they killed smough first ._.
I take it you were wanting his soul/armour for sale? I wanted Ornstein ;A;
By Enuyasha 2013-07-30 08:37:46
I may have accidently placed the lordvessel on the firelink altar...before talking to the other sea lamprey of wisdom >_>
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By Bahamut.Rulerofdarkness 2013-07-30 09:02:37
Bahamut.Rulerofdarkness said: »beaten with the halp of 2 random phantoms :<
they killed smough first ._.
I take it you were wanting his soul/armour for sale? I wanted Ornstein ;A;
Then you should be happy. If they killed Smough first then you got the soul of Ornstein and his armor will be for sale.
By Enuyasha 2013-07-30 09:05:48
Bahamut.Rulerofdarkness said: »Bahamut.Rulerofdarkness said: »beaten with the halp of 2 random phantoms :<
they killed smough first ._.
I take it you were wanting his soul/armour for sale? I wanted Ornstein ;A;
Then you should be happy. If they killed Smough first then you got the soul of Ornstein and his armor will be for sale. oh, i didnt see what i typed D:
They killed Ornstein first*
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