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[Dev] Neo Nyzul Isle
Dont tell me im writing drivel thats all you ever do on these forums. Someone said its a necessity to cheat, im saying its not end of story. And youre telling me my opinion is not an opinion.
Someone's mad about being illiterate. Not my fault tbh.
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: » If users have to change DAT's to have a fighting chance, your event is flawed. You know that's something I'd like. Have the Lamps be numbered (by SE) to help out all the xbox users. Sorry, wasn't aware I was the one using 7th grade bravado. Try rereading what I posted, too, and it'll probably make more sense, because I didn't mention anything about dat swaps and fillmode being required for absolute success. Thus, illiteracy.
Cerberus.Keyoku said: » Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: » If users have to change DAT's to have a fighting chance, your event is flawed. You know that's something I'd like. Have the Lamps be numbered (by SE) to help out all the xbox users. This and fixing the lag in between input and rune of release activation would be the best course of action tbh. Removing lamp floors altogether would be too extreme. Nah I think its your reading comprehension that fails. You're trying to tell my my opinion is not an opinion or a worthy one well it still stands, cheating is not a necessity as Seha seemed to think it is, its still possible to win without it.
When did I say that exactly? You seem to just be making up words to stir ***. It's quite annoying.
Sylph.Krsone said: » Dont tell me im writing *** drivel thats all you ever do on these forums. Someone said its a necessity to cheat, im saying its not end of story. And youre telling me my opinion is not an opinion fu. You're being moronic. You're using an example where you have no idea exactly how it happened. Maybe taints group got 10 order lamp floors in a row, and did them easily because they used dats. Could an xbox user do that? No. Now, if you have an example of a pure vanilla group, or 6/6 xbox group winning Nyzul, then yes, by all means talk about that example as to why dat mods etc are not a necessity. For the record I don't think fillmode is a necessity. I'm personally not that great with differentiating where walls are/aren't in nyzul under fillmode so I've found it hinders me more than helps and quit using it. Phoenix.Sehachan said: » Asura.Fondue said: » people cheat in nyzul?! deets! Sylph.Krsone said: » Necessity is your opinion. Valefor.Prothescar said: » It's not an opinion, absolute fact Taint's group is just one example, more will come with time. Sorry but cropping out the entire rest of the post won't work.
Valefor.Prothescar said: » It's not an opinion, however, that lamp dat swaps and fillmode are necessity for a decent win rate, that's absolute fact. Decent being +/- 50%, which is tedious enough while still offering challenge, and more importantly it's fun when you don't have to worry about being completely *** over by ill-conceived RNGs. If you aren't able to understand why that isn't remotely close to what you're suggesting that I'm saying, then I really don't feel like I have to explain further how ironic it is that you're suggesting that my reading comprehension skills are lacking. My only point is its not a 100% necessity its been done without and more people in future gonna do it without too, may be a low 100 clear rate but it cant be called a necessity.
And that's any different from what I said and worthy of your outburst why?
What don't you get about it being a necessity for a decent win rate? Do you not understand the difference between win rate and winning?
How is that relevant? One person speaks for everyone now?
I apologize if I don't bother arguing with you. Noticed it wouldn't be worth it from the beginning.
Yeah exactly, I was addressing your reply with a different response, and then you addressed me. Poorly. It has nothing to do with Seha's opinion, it was mine that you raised issue with. My reply was entirely different than Seha's.
Didn't know nerds deal with their emotions like *** do on these forums...LOl
No wonder they are recruiting new mods. LOL Carbuncle.Ambivalent
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I love how the people that say it's unnecessary to cheat, don't have any neo nyzul gear.
Bismarck.Angeleus said: » Didn't know nerds deal with their emotions like *** do on these forums...LOl No wonder they are recruiting new mods. LOL Doesn't the fact that it's a necessity to use them if you want a decent win rate even give you a hint that this event is completely messed up?
Fixed. I wouldnt of posted what I said after then. Valefor.Prothescar said: » Yeah exactly, I was addressing your reply with a different response, and then you addressed me. Poorly. It has nothing to do with Seha's opinion, it was mine that you raised issue with. My reply was entirely different than Seha's. I don't know why you're still going on about someone else's opinion that wasn't part of the conversation you two were having.
I believe winning something with skill and tactics in this game should be paramount. At this moment in time, anything in this game, even the harder events, can be won with skill and tactics... EXCEPT Neo-nzul. Getting to NN floor 100 is about 25% skill/tactics or less, and 75% or more about luck. You can have the best, most elite group imaginable, 30 min of embrava, haste/enthunder on all DD, and still not make it to floor 100 if you have horrible floor skips, 4-5 lamp floors, huge floor layouts, custards and so on. Eliminating lamp floors, and cutting back on the unnecessary time sink menu/floor jumps is only a small fraction of what can go wrong in a run, however it would improve the luck factor enough that you could enter with an elite group, and actually win with a higher rate, without 3rd party tools.
Odin.Tsuneo said: » I don't know why you're still going on about someone else's opinion that wasn't part of the conversation you two were having. This, it's actually getting kind of confusing tbh, like you think Seha and i are one entity or something. Odin.Tsuneo said: » Bismarck.Angeleus said: » Didn't know nerds deal with their emotions like *** do on these forums...LOl No wonder they are recruiting new mods. LOL All you need to do is hit the report bottom or spam him/her with PM :) Carbuncle.Ambivalent
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I see Neo Nyzul like an item with a really shitty drop rate.
The only difference is that it causes drama and makes you feel bad because you feel like ***any time you make a mistake that compromises a run. Regardless as to how good you are, people make mistakes. I'm fine with SE making a hard event, but when having a set of unlucky floors or making a small mistake costs you the event, something needs to change. Reward skill, not luck. Odin.Tsuneo said: » I don't know why you're still going on about someone else's opinion that wasn't part of the conversation you two were having. Because mines is bigger than yours! :P Edit: fix it and thank you :) Carbuncle.Ambivalent
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