DRK TP Sets

What buffs?

What mob stats?

You changed the game and went /war, you must have based your assumptions on some sort of buffs vs some kind of mob.

He said /not SAM when he presented his set, to be fair.

Right the previos discussion was /sam.

Either way I just need the buffs he was considering and the mob lvl,def,eva,vit,agi he was using to justify his set being the best.

Otherwise he was just backing into a 5hit with capped gear haste which we all know isn't how this game works.

You can call out enough buffs to make anything irrelevant, most easily the 1% haste deficiency of Enif. The point is to let it stand out on its own.

24% Haste and lolTactical? I'd feel a bit silly...

If you wanna dig for that exact situation where 10 accuracy is in play on top of DE and Aggressor, go ahead.

wtf are you talking about.

If you have marches/haste/embrava (almost always) you only need 13% in haste to cap. If acc and att are capped (often with DRK) then the Enif+Tact > Muz+Atheling. 2QA >> 3DA with an OAT.

What you are fighting and what buffs you have make all the difference, its the same reason why good DRKs have a variety of TP and WS sets.

I'm just a little confused as to why we give this much of a ***about the magian OAT GS.

Needs more talk about Caladbolg.

OaT is a monster.

OAT is a sleeper.

Caladbolg is a fantastic mannequinn item....those lines.

Does that make it a Monster-sleeper or a Sleeper-monster?

There may be some rare situation in which Murzum is good, although I somewhat doubt it, I just want to know how you can think a Body that essentially only adds 6 STP for most mobs in the game (since capped attack, faster fights allowing 100% LR up time) is "The Holy Gorram Grail of DRK bodies"

This.
OAT is pretty much the best non-Ragnarok great sword.
Granted, making one while building a Ragnarok would be silly.

How do you figure? I made my OaT in 3 days. Definitely worth the time/effort even as a placeholder.

When you say OaT it's the occ. att 2-4 or just the occ. att twice?

*** hope you're not serious.

I've never paid attention to this weapon but now it's in everyone's mouth on this thread i cared to look at it.

Edit : No need to answer, i won't bother to waste time for a fodder GS.

T is clearly the short form of "Two to four times", duh!

They're talking about occ.attacks twice (I hope) as the 2-4 isn't gonna be worth it I think due to its distribution of 2/3/4 attacks and base damage

OaT could have been for occ.att twice or thrice+. When you talk about mythic you say OaT too no?
People are using OaT for occ att twice or thrice and i've never seen anyone spell it OaTT. So before assuming anything i'm asking.

People say OA2-4 or OA2-3.

Better with numbers for sure.

99 Caladbolg wouldn't even be the best weapon in VW, where you can use wing for 300 TP and full time AM3?

99cala isn't bad. (I play with 2) Tocleaer is an underrated WS. Still a big waste of gil vs Rag.

OAT is a sleeper not just because it's a giant manlier version of Joyeuse but also its delay in line with what STP value is available to DRK.

Fun fact, at capped haste and 5-hit:
OAT GS Cycle time = 6.928 seconds, 86 WS in ten minutes
2-4 Scythe Cycle time = 6.224 seconds, 96 WS in ten minutes

Scythe isn't dead because of Resolution, it's dead because it hit the 5-hit wall. Cycle compression by hitbuilding used to be Scythe's advantage, plus consider why we loved Naglering, but 4-hit is currently prohibitive (doable though) and 3-hit is obviously impossible. Now Cycle compression by hitbuilding is the advantage held by a weapon that further improves it by being multihit.



Rag and Caladbolg are in the Valley, near the slowest natural TP gain in the game. That's why the thinking is totally different.

re: OAT, there is some TP overflow (which makes it slightly less useful than math says so). Solid weapon, though.

STP also affects the curve.

Looking for some VW and Legion builds if anyone cares to share what they already have. GS and/or scythe, primarily interested in which TP sets change and how.

For Voidwatch, using Wagnarok spamming Res.

Valiant
Discipline
Depths

Makes it so I don't have to worry about sTP in WS and can get an easier 6-hit as /WAR. +33 STR for res while also providing +35% HP for the initial 60s SE rush and gives the healers a bit more time to cure bomb me should fanatics wear without being replenished. I thought about Lattitude but it's only a 6.4% increase @100TP and does zero if your over 225 TP. Didn't really need the extra haste and I'd prefer not to give up 15 STR and 15% HP.

LR down


LR up


Legion sets, they sit at around 580~ acc before buffs
7 hit/WAR with 1 tic of embrava

I don't have V breastplate or Enif yet but they might be the ideal choice in the LR set maybe... (requires 2 tics of embrava to 7hit)

Also maybe avant gauntlets +1 might be better too...

Thoughts?