Australian/New Zealand, And Other Players: Linkshell Proposal

Hello,

Before I get started, I would like to suggest that the purpose of this thread is solely to gather information and to determine whether or not there is a significant interest for this proposal to be put into motion. Most Australian/New Zealand players I know of are either associated with NA or EU based Linkshells, with a significant time difference in both continents; it is some what of a challenge for us Australian and New Zealand players to partake in scheduled Linkshell events due to work and/or school.

I am proposing an effort to unite our small player base to one server (which has not been decided) and establish a new Linkshell that will have scheduled events in the times of:

Asia Pacific
New Zealand - 8:00PM - 2:00AM
Australia (AEST) - 6:00PM - 12:00AM
Japan - 5:00PM - 11:00PM
China (Hong Kong) - 4:00PM - 10:00PM

Middle East
United Arab Emirates - 12:00PM - 6:00PM

Europe
Germany - 10:00AM - 4:00PM
France - 10:00AM - 4:00PM
United Kingdom - 9:00AM - 3:00PM

North America
EST - 4:00AM - 10:00AM
CST - 3:00AM - 9:00AM
MST - 2:00AM - 8:00AM
PST - 1:00AM - 7:00AM

In a nutshell, It is an English speaking Linkshell playing in Japanese prime time. The Linkshell will revolve around making Gil for each and every member as well as acquiring a multitude of items. The Linkshell will have a unique Gil driven auction-based system that will govern all drops and distribution of wealth amongst members; No points, no priorities, no bank. Clear-cut splits with some variations. Please note, anybody that can play FFXI in these time frames can also express their interest this is not just for Australian/New Zealand players. The server is not yet decided, as I would like to monitor each and every server beforehand, and select the most suitable for the specific time slot.

Events undertaken would include Kings, Wyrms, ToAU, and WoTG NM's. Dynamis, Limbus, Einherjar. ZNM, and SCNM.

A little background information about myself, I have been apart of, and managed 3 fairly successful Linkshells all of which at their prime were one of the dominating groups in the server. I have substantial knowledge in organising and running any event including defeating Absolute Virtue (Zerg; If it means anything, probably not).

Please note, these plans will not be put forward if there is not enough interest.

Please express your interest by either posting a reply, or sending me a PM if you would like to remain anonymous. If you have any questions please feel free to ask.

This thread is also located: http://www.bluegartrls.com/forum/75026-australian-new-zealand-other-players-linkshell-proposal.html

*Update 28/07/09*
Garuda is the selected server

*Update 17/06/09*
Potential Servers announced!

*Update 19/05/09*
Server Selection Process will begin on 16/06/09.

Excellent idea and I think you'll get some support for it. My LS on Odin has had a lot of interest from people on other servers, however Odin is closed so we were never able to take people up on that.

I will bring this up with my shell, however, since we are reasonably large already, and so many members are tied in with other shells as well, I don't see anyone from Odin coming over.

Best of luck though, hopefully all those Aussies on other servers will finally get to do the end-game they haven't been able to do.

what server would this be held on?

***yeah, i'd seriously consider jumping servers for this. As much as i love the people in my LS it really does suck that i spend a large part of my time solo farming.

It's a good idea =) But I probably wouldn't change servers due to the fact I have made some really great friends on Hades =( And I will be moving back to Englad in 10 months anyway ;)
GL though =D

Sounds like a great idea.. although i can see afew flaws :P
I know on Valefor there are quite afew Aussies that have been interested in starting an Aus/NZ shell.

You also mentioned about a unique AH-system to distro. the items. I can see that flawed due to the fact that not everyone has gil. how would someone that has 500k to their name compete with someone that has 5mil? i know that over time the members with a lesser gil count will slowly get the gil from other members but til that time they are last priority and when they finally have enough gil to get something they find themselves bk at 500gil :P

Also i would suggest a server that doesnt have much competition in the HNM scene.
I would recommend Valefor due to the fact that in JP time there arent many HNMLS, but getting into NA time the competition in much higher.

Anyway GL. if you have any questions about valefor let me know ill be glad to tell you



Keep up the good work, i'll try not take too many mobs :P Catch ya later farming

First I will be monitoring every server over a couple weeks, determine averages, and make a careful decision on which server would be best to inject a new Linkshell to. Some servers have no room, therefore it will be unfair to make any suggestions at this time.



Much like points, when a member is new to a Linkshell they have 0, whereas situated members have a significant advantage over them for a long period of time. Personally I think it is not flawed at all, there is no bias, as many experience in a priority system, and if a player really wants an item they themselves determine its value. As for the players who do not have money? They simply turn up to events and collect Gil and make their "bid" at a later time, much like a point system.

After managing a couple successful Linkshells I know first hand that once a member acquires all their desired items they begin to lose motivation, skip events, stop camping windows, and move on or quit the game, losing veteran players is common in Linkshells and is always a heavy blow to morale and the Linkshells image. Every type of member is catered for: poor, rich, new, and old. The system I have devised I believe will attract all types of players, Rich players will be able to receive their much desired items sooner, Poor players will be subject to hordes of monetary gains, Old players will continue to obtain a positive cash flow to pursue their own course whether its a Relic, a Mythic or something different all together. As time progresses and items become less and less wanted, measures will be implemented to introduce a Item Request scheme that opens to the public which I managed in a previous Linkshell with great success.

There will always be a consistent amount of Gil being distributed to each and every member. Although yes much with any system there are some negative factors, the Gil distribution at first will be somewhat slow as time will be needed to build member coffers. I predict that once the Linkshell becomes active I see a Linkshell member making anywhere between 3-4 million Gil a week on average and anywhere between 6-10million depending on claim and/or luck of drops.

thats a heck a lotta gil, Ø.Ø

so you kno strats etc on claiming and fighting the HNM etc :/ are you factoring in other linkshells camping against an Aussie time one ^^, Im sure there are a fedw JP HNM floating hither thither ^^

Absolutely, there is enormous amounts of Gil that can be made through various events without having to rely on claiming any NM. Those figures are averaged between splitting Gil with 18 players. Which is more than what I expect to have on any given day.

count me in ,just tell when and what server

There is an Aussie/NZ shell that runs those times on Leviathan already. I do Nyzul with them (I start at 1AM Central Time). I also do dynamis with an Aussie shell (We don't enter until 2AM Central Time). It works pretty good.

In general they do pretty much every type of "end-game" event. It's called ShadowRavenloft for those wanting to know.

Did a little research on this group and this is what I found.

ShadowRavenloft FFXIAH Profile
http://www.ffxiah.com/linkshell.php?id=411

ShadowRavenloft Blog
http://shadowravenloft-ls.blogspot.com/

ShadowRavenloft Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Leenabeans



Not quite what I had in mind.

let me know when and where i'd definatly think about moving^^

As much as I love my server and the friends I have made, it does get lonely at 7pmish when im the only person on in the shell. I'd definitely consider a move if there was enough support.

This is something I would defiantly be interested, like everyone else has said.. I have made some good friends on Fenrir but it gets too slow knowing that as soon as it hits 6pmish you'll be playing solo all night.

http://shadowravenloft.dyndns.org/forum/index.php

Anyways, just thought I'd toss that out there. Not trying to "Steal your thunder".

I'd love this idea but I've adapted to NA timezone and stay up to 5-6am Uk time :/ This is partly due to my job starting later in the day. On my server there isn't a real endgame LS (mainly consistant of EU)

Hmmm... This is interesting Me and one of my friends on game were/are thinking of doing this... we have found a few people on Hades that are interested but its hard to get them to move to an alternate server. I know Hades doesnt have alot of people on it and i also its not that popular but could be a good place to start im not sure about other servers but i know i have found alot more than expected Aussie players there.
Just a thought. Either way we would also consider moving i would love to be kept upto date either way.

tempting...
im at indonesia GMT+7
so 03:00 - 09:00 PM
back from work around 5, bath, dinner etc
log on around 6 PM
lol that leaves me 6-9 PM

as tempting as it may sounds...

Hey im just wondering if this is still a proposal because i would definately be interested in this :D

Hello,

It is still early to come to a decision as its only been 3 days. However after the Mog Bonanza winning numbers have been announced (June 16, 2009) all my mules will be opened up to explore. I will begin observing servers that have been mentioned and monitor their economies respectfully.

In the meantime, if you are serious about making a move wherever it may be, please take this time to prepare your characters missions, sub jobs, merits etc. I can announce for certain that players will need Sea access, and all expansions (Add-On Scenarios not required). A player must have at least one or two fundamental jobs; by my definition these include: BLM, WHM, RDM, BRD, SMN, DRK, RNG, SAM, or WAR. Unfortunately PLD players will be subject to more strict requirements as the nature of the job requires skill and good gear choice in low man situations. I feel safe with a PLD that has 14% Haste as a bare minimum.

I will periodically make more posts as time progresses tackling issues you have regarding expectations, scheduling, and so on. At some stage I will make available a website where players can make their official applications so the ball can begin rolling. I am eager to see this through and am certain it will have great potential.

You make it sound like military school or something <_<

I'm glad to see someone finally asked this question. I was going to put it out there when the server jumping was made possible, but i never got over the fact that people will have made friends on their current servers and likely wouldn't make the jump.

On unicorn we have about 10-15 AUS/NZ players and we already have our own LS. We do some events in out time zone, usually around 6pm onwards. Everyone has access to the main endgame areas and most importantly we have fun on the shell. Most of us have multiple 75's and are flexible in what we do, ie. BLM's for certain limbus zones or DD's etc depending on whats needed.

Im not sure if any of them would be interested in jumping server's but if your guys are interested your welcome on Unicorn.

I dont think so Nednerb is just trying to create a skilled, low-man HNMls. Trying to gather members from different servers. Not to mention trying not to waste peoples RL money for server transfers.

I think that is good idea to try and unite aussies and make a LS that suits our time

This has sparked my interest.

Not saying I'll definitely join you on this idea, since I'm pretty settled here on Alexander already with my friends and endgame LS. But definitely will keep an eye on this interesting project of yours. Would be nice to not have to wake up at 7am for an endgame event with Americans since those xenophobic Japanese LS's dont want us.

Ok, i withdraw my intrest. I cant be *** putting up with that ***from yanks and sure as *** couldnt be arsed hearing it from an aussie.

An aussie ls that is prepared to help other aussies? Ok cool lets go.

An aussie ls that has strict rules to join? Go *** yourself mate.

Dont come the *** to valefor.

It would be awesome if they had some cross-server Marble Bridge place where you could meet others from a particular country and such, or even have temporary 'join us for a day at Lakshmi' hand outs.
(I know it's not quite feasible, but a passing thought i wanted to share)

This did spark an interest in me, however, as with a few others, I don't think I'd be willing to sacrifice what few friends I've made here at Lakshmi to join an end game LS on a different server.

Being that this would be the only LS in possession, if other members were to argue over something, I wouldn't have a social LS to retreat and unwind in lol, and having to unequip Linkshell to avoid said arguments would kinda defeat the purpose of gathering us lonely souls together.

Thats my 2 beastcoins anyway. Good luck to those who are interested though!

Clearly you've never been in an HNM shell, or got lucky to have a laid back one, But the majority of HNM shells will require you to have the following mage jobs leveled (whm rdm blm brd ) before *even* considering looking at your app. Having drk/sam/war/rng leveled aswell is a bonus as not all the mobs that are going to be fought can be fought with blms so having a DD leveled would contribute esp for zergs, not to meantion having ranger available would be helping your shell mates with finding NMs.

There is nothing strict about these requirements, most endgame shells require this of you and more. This includes
Sky access, Sea access, Bv2 access , dyna xarc access
All runic portals, gate key for Mt Z
Most OPs, especially Zi tah, Bubu,Vollbow
Atleast 2 of *their perferred* jobs leveled
Experience with what they are claiming, merits, notiable gear etc

And for pld strict requirements, its a given.

Its clear that he meant this to be an HNM/Endgame shell :
Hes being nice enough to prep ppl for what he is looking for and is expecting/desiring us to have for him to consider. In endgame linkshells, its not what you want, but what you can offer the shell as a whole. Those in said linkshells know what im referring to, when asked to come on jobs we dont like being on always but come, to get the event done.

Having stuff done already, allows the shell to get started with events right away rather than having to take the time to get each person caught up. Im not trying to be an ***, but comments like yours just give off bad impressions to people and to the OP. Especially if nothing out of the norm was asked.


Pretty much my feelings aswell.