Feint Adjustment 3/26

So, am I correct to assume that 5/5 merits would give 100% chance of increasing Treasure Hunter?



Because this just happened to me a few minutes ago.



I just copied and pasted the important parts. I started the fight with a Sneak Attack, no upgrade in TH. I used Feint and there was no upgrade. I used Bully, and then Sneak Attack and got an upgrade to 8. Finally, I used Feint once more and didn't get an upgrade.

What's the deal? Does it not work at all, or is it ineffective against NMs?

But interestingly enough, after the 02893478283472394078203840928930488927398472893749273489234 times stingy Sozu hasn't given me that damn katana, he finally dropped it.

Its possible its a 100% increase in the "chance" to increase TH, so if your base chance is 20% you go up to 40%. BTW dont take those #s seriously i dont know the base chance off hand I just picked a random #.

And gratz on the hocho, im still after mine.

Yeah if the base rate of increase TH is X% on a SA/TA and you have 5/5 merits(+100%) then the base rate on SA/TA would then be 2X%.

Problem is that the X is probably like 5-6% and is then reduced exponentially further the higher the current TH level is on the mob is.

Well, I wasn't stacking Feint and Sneak Attack either. I used them independently. Which from the description given:


That would lead to the assumption that every 2 minutes, you would be able to upgrade the Treasure Hunter by 1 at a 100% activation rate.

That may seem a little overkill, especially on a monster like PW or AV that have a 2 hour timer.... TH119 or GTFO!

But, I'm going to test it out a bit more. Eyeballing, I would say Sneak Attack increases my TH roughly 80% of the time if used independently depending on the target. Certain NMs I can't seem to get more than 1-2 upgrades during the course of the fight, other times, I am able to jump it 4-5 times in a matter of minutes. So, maybe using Feint in conjunction with Sneak Attack is the way to go.

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Feint

The way it was explained to me is pretty much what ophannus said.

If you have TH10 on a mob,and the chance up to upgrade to to TH11 is 5%,then with full merits,you'd have a 10% chance to upgrade.

Now that some time has passed, how do you guys feel about 5/5 Feint?

I've been using it for the last couple of days and it's been really underwhelming so far. An increase from x% to 2x% wouldn't be eyeballable when x is small but I still have yet to see any procs when I apply Feint and subsequently do an SA and a TA, which is pretty disappointing.

My experience has been very different from Supahkronic's so I'm curious if folks are typically seeing the results he is and I'm just stuck on the crap end of randomness.

TH has extremely minimal effect after TH2. When this update came, I took all but 1 merit out of feint and put them all into aura-steal/assassin's charge. If your THF is only a TH mule, merit feint 5/5, otherwise use your merits on something useful.

So 90% of thfs should 5/5 feint haha.

There are some people who take the job seriously :)

adding additional merits into feint doesnt increast the activation rate. it doesnt say that in the description. it just says that feint will increase the rate by 25%. meaning your nest attack has a 35% chance of increasing the TH. thats what i took from that

This is more or less how I feel about it, but I do like having all possible TH available when I want to TH something.

Also, and this might be the most compelling reason to 5/5 Feint, moving points into the other options is of fairly small benefit. ie, I have 5/5 Feint, 4/5 AC and 1/5 AS right now and moving points from Feint into AC and/or AS would help a little, but this would be at the cost of having to say "I cannot maximally TH this enemy."

I've always wondered one thing about the Feint update. 5/5 into it would double the chances of procing TH. But does this apply only for the hit where you land Feint? Or for the Duration of the evasion down effect? Or both?

I usually stack Feint + SA/TA, but would like to know if I can use SA/TA during feint too to receive the bonus effect? (I hope that made sense)

Feint 1st, then a solo sa and solo ta with feint on for raising th imo. I wouldnt use all 3 jas at same time personally.

Although I must add I wouldnt bother in a timed event it would be better to stick with sa-ws or ta-ws especially in say dynamis.

by SA/TA I meant separately, I dont remember the last time I stacked them both (more chances of TH proc :P)