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 Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-03-26 14:40:05  
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Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
Barleycup said: »
/equip Body "Scholar's Gown +1" <wait 0.7>
/ja "Ebullience" <me>
/equip Body "Heka Kalasiris"

i felt the need to point this out.

Point what out? 0.7 works for me and my IP connection somehow.
<wait>
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By Fenrir.Savoree 2012-03-26 14:41:01  
page 8 barleycup. Grats
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-03-26 14:41:07  
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I feel like I'm watching a thief and a beastmaster duke it out over whose damage is more relevant.

( ̄▽ ̄)ノ_彡 Have you seen the damage Falcor can do?!

But Sneak Attack is a GUARANTEED CRITICAL! ☆⌒(>。≪)イタイ

(ノ ゜Д゜)ノ ==== ┻━━┻ DIPPER YULY!!

ASSASSIN'S CHARGE!!! ャダヽ(o`皿′o)ノ
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-03-26 14:41:12  
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
Barleycup said: »
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
Barleycup said: »
/equip Body "Scholar's Gown +1" <wait 0.7>
/ja "Ebullience" <me>
/equip Body "Heka Kalasiris"

i felt the need to point this out.

Point what out? 0.7 works for me and my IP connection somehow.
<wait>
I suppose now we know how he has T5/T4 at all times.
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By Phoenix.Bomber 2012-03-26 14:41:58  
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still goin huh? OP your still wrong about everything.

You are possibly the worst people to ignore facts staring you in the face.

What exacly am I wrong about?

My Grammar and Spelling? Guilty . /blush

My points raised?

No. Look again.
You are wrong in 2 things ..In a situation when procs are neded BLM/SCH has it covered ...in a situation where you just nuke to your heart's content BLM still wins cuz if you try to conserve mp with strategems you'll never touch BLM's dmg if you don't your miserable MP pool wont last you long and if you pull hate your done for
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-03-26 14:42:05  
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☆⌒(>。≪)イタイ
this is going into my exentorater echo
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By Barleycup 2012-03-26 14:42:08  
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Barley, would you please post your mythical 80% FC nuking sets for both BLM and SCH? I am very curious about them.

80% FC as far as Elemental Casting time on BLM should be obvious

80% FC on SCH is obvious. Full Rubeus is needed, the rest is standard (Relic +2 Hat) +15 from /RDM + 10 from Dark Arts.

I dont know how nor do i have the patience, inclination or will to post fulls sets the above information should be suffficient.
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By Barleycup 2012-03-26 14:42:39  
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Barleycup said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
still goin huh? OP your still wrong about everything.

You are possibly the worst people to ignore facts staring you in the face.

What exacly am I wrong about?

My Grammar and Spelling? Guilty . /blush

My points raised?

No. Look again.
You are wrong in 2 things ..In a situation when procs are neded BLM/SCH has it covered ...in a situation where you just nuke to your heart's content BLM still wins cuz if you try to conserve mp with strategems you'll never touch BLM's dmg if you don't your miserable MP pool wont last you long and if you pull hate your done for

I have already explained away your entire post on this thread. Scroll up or shut up,
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-03-26 14:43:09  
Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Barleycup said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
still goin huh? OP your still wrong about everything.

You are possibly the worst people to ignore facts staring you in the face.

What exacly am I wrong about?

My Grammar and Spelling? Guilty . /blush

My points raised?

No. Look again.
You are wrong in 2 things ..In a situation when procs are neded BLM/SCH has it covered ...in a situation where you just nuke to your heart's content BLM still wins cuz if you try to conserve mp with strategems you'll never touch BLM's dmg if you don't your miserable MP pool wont last you long and if you pull hate your done for
another person hinting at parsimony...... (ノ ゜Д゜)ノ ==== ┻━━┻
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-03-26 14:43:48  
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Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Barley, would you please post your mythical 80% FC nuking sets for both BLM and SCH? I am very curious about them.

80% FC as far as Elemental Casting time on BLM should be obvious

80% FC on SCH is obvious. Full Rubeus is needed, the rest is standard (Relic +2 Hat) +15 from /RDM + 10 from Dark Arts.

I dont know how nor do i have the patience, inclination or will to post fulls sets the above information should be suffficient.
sooooooooooooooooooooooo you nuke in fast cast gear?
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-03-26 14:43:49  
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Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Barley, would you please post your mythical 80% FC nuking sets for both BLM and SCH? I am very curious about them.

80% FC as far as Elemental Casting time on BLM should be obvious

80% FC on SCH is obvious. Full Rubeus is needed, the rest is standard (Relic +2 Hat) +15 from /RDM + 10 from Dark Arts.

I dont know how nor do i have the patience, inclination or will to post fulls sets the above information should be suffficient.
The recast only gets affect by what you finish casting in. Ergo, unless you finish nuking in your FC gear, you do not have minimum recast.
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By Shiva.Damonz 2012-03-26 14:46:03  
I don't think the OP understands that fast cast only does anything to recast timers if you finish casting in fast cast gear, can't have it both ways, best damage nukes and 80% FC for recast on spells.

and beaten lol
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By Phoenix.Bomber 2012-03-26 14:46:46  
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Barleycup said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
still goin huh? OP your still wrong about everything.

You are possibly the worst people to ignore facts staring you in the face.

What exacly am I wrong about?

My Grammar and Spelling? Guilty . /blush

My points raised?

No. Look again.
You are wrong in 2 things ..In a situation when procs are neded BLM/SCH has it covered ...in a situation where you just nuke to your heart's content BLM still wins cuz if you try to conserve mp with strategems you'll never touch BLM's dmg if you don't your miserable MP pool wont last you long and if you pull hate your done for
another person hinting at parsimony...... (ノ ゜Д゜)ノ ==== ┻━━┻
Well how else can you conserve MP on SCH? :P explain
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By Barleycup 2012-03-26 14:47:38  
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Barleycup said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Barley, would you please post your mythical 80% FC nuking sets for both BLM and SCH? I am very curious about them.

80% FC as far as Elemental Casting time on BLM should be obvious

80% FC on SCH is obvious. Full Rubeus is needed, the rest is standard (Relic +2 Hat) +15 from /RDM + 10 from Dark Arts.

I dont know how nor do i have the patience, inclination or will to post fulls sets the above information should be suffficient.
The recast only gets affect by what you finish casting in. Ergo, unless you finish nuking in your FC gear, you do not have minimum recast.

Yes.

I was refereing to FC and NOT . i repeat not Recast.

You are gettng confused.

With haste from Spell and FC from Arts and /RDM, SCH can still spam tier V and tier IV spells back to back.

80% FC only lets you match BLM on CASTING TIME.

Do you see?

Can you read or scroll up?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2012-03-26 14:48:20  
... My brain cells just died.
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By Barleycup 2012-03-26 14:48:48  
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
Barleycup said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Barley, would you please post your mythical 80% FC nuking sets for both BLM and SCH? I am very curious about them.

80% FC as far as Elemental Casting time on BLM should be obvious

80% FC on SCH is obvious. Full Rubeus is needed, the rest is standard (Relic +2 Hat) +15 from /RDM + 10 from Dark Arts.

I dont know how nor do i have the patience, inclination or will to post fulls sets the above information should be suffficient.
sooooooooooooooooooooooo you nuke in fast cast gear?

Yes I nuke in full FC gear.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-03-26 14:49:39  
Barleycup said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Barleycup said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Barley, would you please post your mythical 80% FC nuking sets for both BLM and SCH? I am very curious about them.

80% FC as far as Elemental Casting time on BLM should be obvious

80% FC on SCH is obvious. Full Rubeus is needed, the rest is standard (Relic +2 Hat) +15 from /RDM + 10 from Dark Arts.

I dont know how nor do i have the patience, inclination or will to post fulls sets the above information should be suffficient.
The recast only gets affect by what you finish casting in. Ergo, unless you finish nuking in your FC gear, you do not have minimum recast.

Yes.

I was refereing to FC and NOT . i repeat not Recast.

You are gettng confused.

With haste from Spell and FC from Arts and /RDM, SCH can still spam tier V and tier IV spells back to back.

80% FC only lets you match BLM on CASTING TIME.

Do you see?

Can you read or scroll up?
Well, since you know it doesn't affect recast if you macro it out. Then you should know there is a going to be a delay between T5/T4 due to recast. -ja spells fill that gap quite nicely. Thus BLM wins in blitz nuking. Scroll up.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-03-26 14:49:39  
OK before another person makes a *** comment about parsimony the only occasion you would ever use it is when mp conservation for all jobs is required, IE: no atmas, no temp items. Sch has the advantage over blm in this case because sch has better sublimation than /sch, has parsimony and has the ability to use convert with /rdm. Blm would have /sch sublimation and parsimony.




















BUT THIS IS NOT THE CASE AS OF RIGHT NOW AS MOST OF THE CURRENT CONTENT HAS NULLED THE NEED FOR MP CONSERVATION.


do not bring up parsimony again.
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By Barleycup 2012-03-26 14:49:45  
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... My brain cells just died.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2012-03-26 14:50:15  
Barleycup said: »
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
Barleycup said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Barley, would you please post your mythical 80% FC nuking sets for both BLM and SCH? I am very curious about them.

80% FC as far as Elemental Casting time on BLM should be obvious

80% FC on SCH is obvious. Full Rubeus is needed, the rest is standard (Relic +2 Hat) +15 from /RDM + 10 from Dark Arts.

I dont know how nor do i have the patience, inclination or will to post fulls sets the above information should be suffficient.
sooooooooooooooooooooooo you nuke in fast cast gear?

Yes I nuke in full FC gear.

EDIT: forgot OP is just... I give up. Let me try and scrape the paste off the wall.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2012-03-26 14:50:56  
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Fenrir.Minjo said: »
I feel like I'm watching a thief and a beastmaster duke it out over whose damage is more relevant.

( ̄▽ ̄)ノ_彡 Have you seen the damage Falcor can do?!

But Sneak Attack is a GUARANTEED CRITICAL! ☆⌒(>。≪)イタイ

(ノ ゜Д゜)ノ ==== ┻━━┻ DIPPER YULY!!

ASSASSIN'S CHARGE!!! ャダヽ(o`皿′o)ノ
wheres the melee rdm?
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By Caitsith.Pebe 2012-03-26 14:51:16  
Wait now I'm confused. There is no way its possible to lower the recast on a Tier V that much with going for full damage is there? I guess Alacrity but.....
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-03-26 14:51:34  
Cerberus.Maeldiar said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
I feel like I'm watching a thief and a beastmaster duke it out over whose damage is more relevant.

( ̄▽ ̄)ノ_彡 Have you seen the damage Falcor can do?!

But Sneak Attack is a GUARANTEED CRITICAL! ☆⌒(>。≪)イタイ

(ノ ゜Д゜)ノ ==== ┻━━┻ DIPPER YULY!!

ASSASSIN'S CHARGE!!! ャダヽ(o`皿′o)ノ
wheres the melee rdm?
melee brd or gtfo!
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By Phoenix.Bomber 2012-03-26 14:52:36  
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
OK before another person makes a *** comment about parsimony the only occasion you would ever use it is when mp conservation for all jobs is required, IE: no atmas, no temp items. Sch has the advantage over blm in this case because sch has better sublimation than /sch, has parsimony and has the ability to use convert with /rdm. Blm would have /sch sublimation and parsimony.




















BUT THIS IS NOT THE CASE AS OF RIGHT NOW AS MOST OF THE CURRENT CONTENT HAS NULLED THE NEED FOR MP CONSERVATION.


do not bring up parsimony again.
Well OP keeps talking about that so yeah XD his argument of BLM running out of MP is nulled too
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By Barleycup 2012-03-26 14:52:44  
nice thread while it lasted. Several people have made it utter nonsense now. This will be my last post.

Hope I have opened some eyes, Although i can see many just perfer to keep them shut.
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By Barleycup 2012-03-26 14:53:49  
Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
OK before another person makes a *** comment about parsimony the only occasion you would ever use it is when mp conservation for all jobs is required, IE: no atmas, no temp items. Sch has the advantage over blm in this case because sch has better sublimation than /sch, has parsimony and has the ability to use convert with /rdm. Blm would have /sch sublimation and parsimony.






















BUT THIS IS NOT THE CASE AS OF RIGHT NOW AS MOST OF THE CURRENT CONTENT HAS NULLED THE NEED FOR MP CONSERVATION.


do not bring up parsimony again.
Well OP keeps talking about that so yeah XD his argument of BLM running out of MP is nulled too

I have not once mentioned parsimony. this kind of BS is where this thread starts to go wrong.

Disagree / agree with me but dont start making up BS.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2012-03-26 14:54:29  
You opened my eyes to the wall beside my laptop.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-03-26 14:54:35  
Barleycup said: »
Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Barleycup said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
still goin huh? OP your still wrong about everything.

You are possibly the worst people to ignore facts staring you in the face.

What exacly am I wrong about?

My Grammar and Spelling? Guilty . /blush

My points raised?

No. Look again.
You are wrong in 2 things ..In a situation when procs are neded BLM/SCH has it covered ...in a situation where you just nuke to your heart's content BLM still wins cuz if you try to conserve mp with strategems you'll never touch BLM's dmg if you don't your miserable MP pool wont last you long and if you pull hate your done for

I have already explained away your entire post on this thread. Scroll up or shut up,

you explaining something doesnt make it true lol. Most of your "explanations" are so off-base its amazing you can even keep up with what you're saying. You act as if everything you say is a fact, where in reality its just your amusing opinion.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-03-26 14:55:17  
Barleycup said: »
nice thread while it lasted.
no

Barleycup said: »
Several people have made it utter nonsense now.
you

Barleycup said: »
This will be my last post.
about time (doubt it)

Barleycup said: »
Hope I have opened some eyes, Although i perfer to keep them shut.
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By Barleycup 2012-03-26 14:55:45  
Quetzalcoatl.Neisan said: »
Barleycup said: »
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
Barleycup said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Barley, would you please post your mythical 80% FC nuking sets for both BLM and SCH? I am very curious about them.

80% FC as far as Elemental Casting time on BLM should be obvious

80% FC on SCH is obvious. Full Rubeus is needed, the rest is standard (Relic +2 Hat) +15 from /RDM + 10 from Dark Arts.

I dont know how nor do i have the patience, inclination or will to post fulls sets the above information should be suffficient.
sooooooooooooooooooooooo you nuke in fast cast gear?

Yes I nuke in full FC gear.

EDIT: forgot OP is just... I give up. Let me try and scrape the paste off the wall.

too tired to try to not explain that above was sarcasm.
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