OK to end the thread suggest to me a good "Mob that matters" so I can set up some screenies of me as BLM and SCH nuking.
Dynamis DC mobs ok?
SCH>BLM After Update? . .
SCH>BLM after update? . .
Barleycup said: »
Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »
Couldn't pup outnuke blm for some time?, still doesn't make pup>blm >_>
if this was about casting Tier IV spells then it would be
SCH>PUP>RDM>BLM
in pure damage, and RDM would only pull ahead becasue of Gain-INT and then only on nukes up to Blizzard IV.
I'll probably get shot down for stating that but its true.
Its like saying most people pick their noses and eat what they find:
No-one will admit it but its true.
pup casts t5 spells
Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
Barleycup said: »
Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »
Couldn't pup outnuke blm for some time?, still doesn't make pup>blm >_>
if this was about casting Tier IV spells then it would be
SCH>PUP>RDM>BLM
in pure damage, and RDM would only pull ahead becasue of Gain-INT and then only on nukes up to Blizzard IV.
I'll probably get shot down for stating that but its true.
Its like saying most people pick their noses and eat what they find:
No-one will admit it but its true.
pup casts t5 spells
Yes it does. RDM doesnt hence the subject changing
Barleycup said: »
OK to end the thread suggest to me a good "Mob that matters" so I can set up some screenies of me as BLM and SCH nuking.
Dynamis DC mobs ok?
Dynamis DC mobs ok?
Some1 should Cast X this topic already.
Barleycup said: »
Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
Barleycup said: »
Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »
Couldn't pup outnuke blm for some time?, still doesn't make pup>blm >_>
if this was about casting Tier IV spells then it would be
SCH>PUP>RDM>BLM
in pure damage, and RDM would only pull ahead becasue of Gain-INT and then only on nukes up to Blizzard IV.
I'll probably get shot down for stating that but its true.
Its like saying most people pick their noses and eat what they find:
No-one will admit it but its true.
pup casts t5 spells
Yes it does. RDM doesnt hence the subject changing
i dont think RDM nukes even with gain-int would beat a BLM ever.. on anything
I'v often brought up the use of automatons vs BLMs for damage in fights, but it was always shot down due to the wait time between nukes. I'm not sure if that still applies due to the AI update, but BLM would be better just because of -ga/-ja spells (should AoE damage be required; example: Jail of Love's pets.) Stun also plays a big role in that. Automaton and SCH/RDM can not cast stun. Though, fun fact, SCH/BLM with Thunderstorm + Alacrity + relic feet + Haste(spell) give ~12sec recast. That's not counting any possible fast cast/haste+ gear a SCH could be wearing. So they're the best stun short of Chainspell Stun (assuming target is a NM which is normally resistant to Head Butt/Sudden Lunge.)
Barleycup said: »
Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
Barleycup said: »
Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »
Couldn't pup outnuke blm for some time?, still doesn't make pup>blm >_>
if this was about casting Tier IV spells then it would be
SCH>PUP>RDM>BLM
in pure damage, and RDM would only pull ahead becasue of Gain-INT and then only on nukes up to Blizzard IV.
I'll probably get shot down for stating that but its true.
Its like saying most people pick their noses and eat what they find:
No-one will admit it but its true.
pup casts t5 spells
Yes it does. RDM doesnt hence the subject changing
Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Barleycup said: »
Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
Barleycup said: »
Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »
Couldn't pup outnuke blm for some time?, still doesn't make pup>blm >_>
if this was about casting Tier IV spells then it would be
SCH>PUP>RDM>BLM
in pure damage, and RDM would only pull ahead becasue of Gain-INT and then only on nukes up to Blizzard IV.
I'll probably get shot down for stating that but its true.
Its like saying most people pick their noses and eat what they find:
No-one will admit it but its true.
pup casts t5 spells
Yes it does. RDM doesnt hence the subject changing
If you cant nuke harder on you SCH then you are doing it very wrong.
Do the maths properly using Ebullience Klimaform and Obis
Barleycup said: »
Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Barleycup said: »
Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
Barleycup said: »
Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »
Couldn't pup outnuke blm for some time?, still doesn't make pup>blm >_>
if this was about casting Tier IV spells then it would be
SCH>PUP>RDM>BLM
in pure damage, and RDM would only pull ahead becasue of Gain-INT and then only on nukes up to Blizzard IV.
I'll probably get shot down for stating that but its true.
Its like saying most people pick their noses and eat what they find:
No-one will admit it but its true.
pup casts t5 spells
Yes it does. RDM doesnt hence the subject changing
If you cant nuke harder on you SCH then you are doing it very wrong.
Do the maths properly using Ebullience Klimaform and Obis
If you use ebullience on every spell you only get to cast once per 48 sec. BLM is not restricted by dumb job abilities to do consistently high dmg
Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
Barleycup said: »
Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Barleycup said: »
Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
Barleycup said: »
Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »
Couldn't pup outnuke blm for some time?, still doesn't make pup>blm >_>
if this was about casting Tier IV spells then it would be
SCH>PUP>RDM>BLM
in pure damage, and RDM would only pull ahead becasue of Gain-INT and then only on nukes up to Blizzard IV.
I'll probably get shot down for stating that but its true.
Its like saying most people pick their noses and eat what they find:
No-one will admit it but its true.
pup casts t5 spells
Yes it does. RDM doesnt hence the subject changing
If you cant nuke harder on you SCH then you are doing it very wrong.
Do the maths properly using Ebullience Klimaform and Obis
If you use ebullience on every spell you only get to cast once per 48 sec. BLM is not restricted by dumb job abilities to do consistently high dmg
you've played ffxi before have you?
Barleycup said: »
Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
Barleycup said: »
Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Barleycup said: »
Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
Barleycup said: »
Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »
Couldn't pup outnuke blm for some time?, still doesn't make pup>blm >_>
if this was about casting Tier IV spells then it would be
SCH>PUP>RDM>BLM
in pure damage, and RDM would only pull ahead becasue of Gain-INT and then only on nukes up to Blizzard IV.
I'll probably get shot down for stating that but its true.
Its like saying most people pick their noses and eat what they find:
No-one will admit it but its true.
pup casts t5 spells
Yes it does. RDM doesnt hence the subject changing
If you cant nuke harder on you SCH then you are doing it very wrong.
Do the maths properly using Ebullience Klimaform and Obis
If you use ebullience on every spell you only get to cast once per 48 sec. BLM is not restricted by dumb job abilities to do consistently high dmg
you've played ffxi before have you?
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ebullience
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Stratagem
and no, I have never played this game before in my life <_>
Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
Barleycup said: »
Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
Barleycup said: »
Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Barleycup said: »
Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
Barleycup said: »
Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »
Couldn't pup outnuke blm for some time?, still doesn't make pup>blm >_>
if this was about casting Tier IV spells then it would be
SCH>PUP>RDM>BLM
in pure damage, and RDM would only pull ahead becasue of Gain-INT and then only on nukes up to Blizzard IV.
I'll probably get shot down for stating that but its true.
Its like saying most people pick their noses and eat what they find:
No-one will admit it but its true.
pup casts t5 spells
Yes it does. RDM doesnt hence the subject changing
If you cant nuke harder on you SCH then you are doing it very wrong.
Do the maths properly using Ebullience Klimaform and Obis
If you use ebullience on every spell you only get to cast once per 48 sec. BLM is not restricted by dumb job abilities to do consistently high dmg
you've played ffxi before have you?
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ebullience
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Stratagem
and no, I have never played this game before in my life <_>
I suggest you read those 2 URLs you posted quite carefully before you proceed.
Should be using your stratagems on perpetuance anyways.
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Should be using your stratagems on perpetuance anyways.
Should be using strategems on Alacrity to make sure i cast half as fast again as a BLM!!!!
Or you could be useful and Embrava the real DDs.
[+]
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Or you could be useful and Embrava the real DDs.
Yes because throughout this thread i have poured scorn on those SCH that use strategems for Embrava.
I'm also Responsible for all earthquakes in South China and most Whiplash accidents on Toll-free motorways
Oh no, no one blames that on you. People on these forums simply don't approve of claims that have no real mathematical proof or data that can analyzed and tested for the community to use as a means of confirming your claims as valid.
Well the way you're presenting your arguments makes me think it's a zerg situation considering you claim to have almost unlimited access to stratagems. And if it's a zerg, you should be using Embrava. If it's not a zerg, you can't spam your stratagems for every single nuke, and you won't be able to beat a BLM in overall nuking.
[+]
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Well the way you're presenting your arguments makes me think it's a zerg situation considering you claim to have almost unlimited access to stratagems. And if it's a zerg, you should be using Embrava. If it's not a zerg, you can't spam your stratagems for every single nuke, and you won't be able to beat a BLM in overall nuking.
this
Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Well the way you're presenting your arguments makes me think it's a zerg situation considering you claim to have almost unlimited access to stratagems. And if it's a zerg, you should be using Embrava. If it's not a zerg, you can't spam your stratagems for every single nuke, and you won't be able to beat a BLM in overall nuking.
this
/sigh
to use Embrava you need to 2hr Tabula Rasa which does give you unlimited strategems making your point completely invalid.
Like to try again? :)
Barleycup said: »
Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Well the way you're presenting your arguments makes me think it's a zerg situation considering you claim to have almost unlimited access to stratagems. And if it's a zerg, you should be using Embrava. If it's not a zerg, you can't spam your stratagems for every single nuke, and you won't be able to beat a BLM in overall nuking.
this
/sigh
to use Embrava you need to 2hr Tabula Rasa which does give you unlimited strategems making your point completely invalid.
Like to try again? :)
Barleycup said: »
Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Well the way you're presenting your arguments makes me think it's a zerg situation considering you claim to have almost unlimited access to stratagems. And if it's a zerg, you should be using Embrava. If it's not a zerg, you can't spam your stratagems for every single nuke, and you won't be able to beat a BLM in overall nuking.
this
/sigh
to use Embrava you need to 2hr Tabula Rasa which does give you unlimited strategems making your point completely invalid.
Like to try again? :)
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Barleycup said: »
Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Well the way you're presenting your arguments makes me think it's a zerg situation considering you claim to have almost unlimited access to stratagems. And if it's a zerg, you should be using Embrava. If it's not a zerg, you can't spam your stratagems for every single nuke, and you won't be able to beat a BLM in overall nuking.
this
/sigh
to use Embrava you need to 2hr Tabula Rasa which does give you unlimited strategems making your point completely invalid.
Like to try again? :)
80% Fast Cast stronger nukes and helix.
What about that cannot make SCH more damaging in any situation?
Barleycup said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Barleycup said: »
Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Well the way you're presenting your arguments makes me think it's a zerg situation considering you claim to have almost unlimited access to stratagems. And if it's a zerg, you should be using Embrava. If it's not a zerg, you can't spam your stratagems for every single nuke, and you won't be able to beat a BLM in overall nuking.
this
/sigh
to use Embrava you need to 2hr Tabula Rasa which does give you unlimited strategems making your point completely invalid.
Like to try again? :)
80% Fast Cast stronger nukes and helix.
What about that cannot make SCH more damaging in any situation?
Barleycup said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Barleycup said: »
Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Well the way you're presenting your arguments makes me think it's a zerg situation considering you claim to have almost unlimited access to stratagems. And if it's a zerg, you should be using Embrava. If it's not a zerg, you can't spam your stratagems for every single nuke, and you won't be able to beat a BLM in overall nuking.
this
/sigh
to use Embrava you need to 2hr Tabula Rasa which does give you unlimited strategems making your point completely invalid.
Like to try again? :)
80% Fast Cast stronger nukes and helix.
What about that cannot make SCH more damaging in any situation?
BLM and SCH both cap fast cast with ease.
BLM Ja > SCH T5 w/ ebu
BLM T5 > SCH T4 w/ ebu
BLM can cast other elements without needing to change the weather.
BLM Ja > SCH T5 w/ ebu
BLM T5 > SCH T4 w/ ebu
BLM can cast other elements without needing to change the weather.
[+]
Barleycup said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Barleycup said: »
Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Well the way you're presenting your arguments makes me think it's a zerg situation considering you claim to have almost unlimited access to stratagems. And if it's a zerg, you should be using Embrava. If it's not a zerg, you can't spam your stratagems for every single nuke, and you won't be able to beat a BLM in overall nuking.
this
/sigh
to use Embrava you need to 2hr Tabula Rasa which does give you unlimited strategems making your point completely invalid.
Like to try again? :)
80% Fast Cast stronger nukes and helix.
What about that cannot make SCH more damaging in any situation?
80% Fast Cast stronger DoT.
What about that cannot make BLM more damaging in any situation?
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