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 Lakshmi.Jesi
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By Lakshmi.Jesi 2012-03-07 03:03:53  
He's not really invisible, lol. Obama sent soldiers there two years ago to stop him but haven't succeeded yet.

Children soldiers are old news. Ever seen Lord of War? Great movie, you should check it out.

I really hope because of this renewed interest America doesn't get drawn into another conflict. The last thing we need is to go fight people in Africa for god's sake.
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By Gimpness 2012-03-07 03:13:57  
Joseph Kony for president! :3


that's kinda what I thought when I read the thread title cus I had no idea bout the movie. :x


was like... waiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit what
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By Carbuncle.Astrida 2012-03-07 08:04:47  
Kony 2012

Kony2012.com

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30 min video -
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-07 08:50:20  
If you want real sources of information regarding this:

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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-07 08:51:10  
FYI: A white christian organization has no place signaling a call to arms for intervention in Uganda. Ever.
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-03-07 09:12:55  
Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
FYI: A white christian organization has no place signaling a call to arms for intervention in Uganda. Ever.

I can understand what you would say that, but if a Christian organization knows that the power to change something terrible is not within their own mean then they must reach out to those with the power to do something. One might say that a Christian should allow God to take care of things and to pray for the change, but in my eyes if God exists then he created us, he gave us the will to create weapons and the judgement of when the right time to use them is. If we have a call to arms to do something about this then we are using the very tools God intended us to have and to use for times just like this. (I am not religious btw)
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-07 09:23:47  
No, the point is that they are doing this because they feel they have been wronged and are simultaneously using it to turn a profit when we have shitted on Africa with our foreign policy, have been examining the situation for years, and would be damned foolish to approach it without sanctions from the UA (or at least Uganda/South Sudan), especially for the death of a figurehead.

We have soldiers there already. Our involvement needs to remain at a minimum, however, unless we want to immeasurably *** up a country that has already been uprooted by years of civil war.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-07 09:29:43  
Not to mention the whole White Man Burden complex they've got going on that's absolutely disgusting.
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-03-07 09:33:37  
But but but... I watched the Youtube video... it didn't say anything about that....

Mother of God... I just got Fox News'd didn't I?
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-07 09:34:54  
Essentially. The only difference is even liberal America is going along with it blindly.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 09:57:30  
So this is the next Darfur?
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By Sylph.Izzybella 2012-03-07 09:58:14  
Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: »
Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
FYI: A white christian organization has no place signaling a call to arms for intervention in Uganda. Ever.

I can understand what you would say that

Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
Not to mention the whole White Man Burden complex they've got going on that's absolutely disgusting.

I DON'T understand why you would say either of those things.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-07 10:03:59  
http://ilto.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/the-visible-problem-with-invisible-children/

This article is from 2006 and while there has been resurgence in violence, the ideologies represented are what's worth being considered.
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By Sylph.Izzybella 2012-03-07 10:06:37  
That's disgusting.

Did you watch the Kony 2012 video at all? One man trying to teach his son that ONE MAN can make a difference. What he is trying to do is raise awareness on the atrocities and make Kony so well known that he can't hide any more.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-07 10:07:48  
You seem to have a lot of feelings but little to no understanding of pragmatism, foreign policy, or even racial exploitation. Get back to me when you do.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-07 10:11:40  
Sylph.Izzybella said: »
That's disgusting.

Did you watch the Kony 2012 video at all? One man trying to teach his son that ONE MAN can make a difference. What he is trying to do is raise awareness on the atrocities and make Kony so well known that he can't hide any more.

So what does this man have to say on the atrocities the United States has imposed on various African countries? Oh wait, forget about that and imperialist history, we have a backwards of country black people to rescue from themselves!

The United States has been monitoring the situation for years. Removing Kony from power does nothing. The video is manipulating you to turn a profit while achieving absolutely nothing. Yay!
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-03-07 10:15:01  
Yeah the more I am reading (note I said reading, not watching youtube videos) I am leaning towards what Jinjo is saying. Glad I didn't donate anything to these people.
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By alyria 2012-03-07 10:16:42  
enough with racial remarks. keep it a clean debate.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-07 10:19:58  
FYI #2: Don't buy into something without understanding the full scope of the situation.

Invisible Children supports direct military intervention by the Ugandan army and the SPLA (Sudan People's Liberation Army) who have faced consistent charged of rape and looting. IC denies all claims of these instances which have been documented in various books.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-03-07 10:20:04  
How come these kids get advanced copies of Modern Warfare 4?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 10:21:09  
http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-07 10:23:21  
FYI #3: Various operations have been enacted to extract or kill Kony and they have all resulted in brutal retaliation.

Your solution is not as clear cut as you wish to believe. Raising awareness is the best that this is doing, but it's doing it incorrectly.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-07 10:24:25  

This will say everything I want to say much more quickly. I've pulled several links from there already.
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-03-07 10:32:21  

Lillicarnage can't help herself and staggers.

I just looked at their financial statements, which I learned how to read last semester (Accounting 101 ftw!) and just wow. SERIOUSLY glad I didn't give them anything. Thank you and Jinjo for posting in here about this organization.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-07 10:34:51  
Still not convinced this video is manipulating you?

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Simply, a long socioeconomic and political conflict that has lasted 25+ years and engaged multiple states and actors has been reduced to a story of the good vs bad guy. And if a three-year-old can understand it, so can you. You don’t have to learn anything about the children, Uganda, or Africa. You just have to make calls, put up flyers, sings songs, and you will liberate a poor, forgotten, and invisible people.

This approach obviously denies realities on the ground, inflates fantasies abroad, and strips Ugandans of their agency, dignity and humanity- the complexity of their story and history. The work, consequence, and impact are all focused on Uganda, but the agency, accountability, and resources lie among young American students. Clearly a dangerous imbalance of power and influence; one that can have adverse lasting effects on how and what people know of Uganda. It reduces the story of Northern Uganda, and perhaps even all of Uganda, into the dreaded single narrative of need and war, followed by western resolve and rescue.

I apologize if my "dismantle it as thoroughly as possible before it takes off through yet another medium" approach is bothersome. Actually, nah, I'm not. '-'
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By Sylph.Izzybella 2012-03-07 10:55:27  
Explanations, links, thoughtful approach is all well and good instead of reducing it to racism. THAT is what got my goat :P
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-07 11:01:32  
The thing is though, it has a lot to do with race as well.
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