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Random Question thread (FFXI related)
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By Fenrir.Brimstonefox 2025-11-21 15:32:43
Fenrir.Brimstonefox said: »I think there's a few answers here:
1. Which job has the best AF+3 set (moot IMO).
2. Which job that I play decently is missing stuff.
3. Which job do I hate bringing to Omen.
4. Which job do I have the least of. This is situational depending on the age of the character.
If you've already established your character, chances are you already ruled out 1 and 2, quite possibly 3 since you'd have a surplus of cards from doing Omen. In which case, go with the 100 deeds as it gets you 2 1/2 months closer to another free ADL and PW pop (and more free Venus/Mars orbs), its also guaranteed 3 Abdhaljs Seals. But if you're truly insistent on using the AF+3 Kupon, get the one that you have the least AF for, then you can store it on slip 25 and never use it since you've already established you dont play the job at all.
If you are not an established character: Get the 100 deeds of Heroism and get yourself 2 1/2 months closer to Deed Vouchers +2, Deed Tokens +2, Monberaux, Martial Treatise KI's to have more merit WS available, etc. But if you're absolutely, truly dead set on the AF+3 Kupon, this will depend on what job(s) you've decided on as some AF+3 is 4/5 dogshit (NIN, SMN, DNC, MNK might be in that list), but you'd likely be best served to just get the set of the job you play most as most jobs have 3+/5 good pieces at +3
I mean the deeds are definitely better if you want to shorten calendar time (only way possible). The coupon will definitely save you more man hours played, so the argument that take the things you can't change has validity.
To make an analogy:
Deeds=buying a horrible house in a great location (can tear the house down and rebuild)
Voucher=Great home, suspect location (probably more appropriate to say great price, decent home, but you're stuck with the lousy commute).
Agreed a lot of the AF is "meh", and its totally silly to use the coupon for stuff you'll never use.
By waffle 2025-11-21 15:36:30
The only "useless" piece is the feet. For what it's worth, after being useless for so long, the feet suddenly become the BiS macc piece at +4, but only at +4.
Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-11-21 16:22:05
The only "useless" piece is the feet. For what it's worth, after being useless for so long, the feet suddenly become the BiS macc piece at +4, but only at +4.
While technically true, I would still only use them for spells unaffected by enfeebling magic effect AND which can't immunobreak AND which don't scale with skill...So like...Dispel? And maybe Frazzle 2, depending on your playstyle.
So even in the best case for AF feet, they're extremely, extremely niche.
Side note, I think this is accurate?
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-21 17:08:16
the above advice is based on having immunobreak merited, incase anyone is confused.
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By waffle 2025-11-21 19:52:28
Yeah. If you don't have immunobreak merited or if you think you can land sleep/break/bind without needing to immunobreak, you'd use empyrean feet to try to take advantage of the set bonus for duration.
The niche use of the artifact +4 feet is dispel and impact. Unless for some reason you really want to focus on impact's actual damage.
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2025-11-21 19:57:22
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »The only "useless" piece is the feet. For what it's worth, after being useless for so long, the feet suddenly become the BiS macc piece at +4, but only at +4.
While technically true, I would still only use them for spells unaffected by enfeebling magic effect AND which can't immunobreak AND which don't scale with skill...So like...Dispel? And maybe Frazzle 2, depending on your playstyle.
So even in the best case for AF feet, they're extremely, extremely niche.
Side note, I think this is accurate?

NO!!! It doesn't show Inundation!!!
Just kidding, mostly correct, should also show which stats affect potency for blind/slow/para/distract/frazzle/addle
By darkwaffle 2025-11-22 17:58:11
So for the past few weeks on my server there has been one character regularly selling 100 piece relic currencies to the same two other characters repeatedly at well below the regular market price (by 100-200k). This usually happens about once a day and is often a full ~10 pieces to presumably try to wipe out the legitimate price history. There aren't a lot of what appear to be valid sales afterwards so maybe people just recognize what's going on - and I don't see said characters buying from anyone else so I'm not sure what their angle is - but is this something that's against the rules? Or is it just the capitalist dream of a free market at work? And I guess speaking more broadly - are rules even still being enforced these days?
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-11-22 18:01:17
The short answer is you can manipulate sales history all you want.
There's no regulating body that sets any economic rules. Just a free for all.
Asura.Hya
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By Asura.Hya 2025-11-22 18:46:31
are rules even still being enforced these days? lol, no
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By Phoenix.Enochroot 2025-11-23 09:11:42
Is it known that you can get abjurations from monster rearing? I just killed a great adamantoise and got an a.body and a.tatter, lol.
By Felgarr 2025-11-23 11:21:43
Any quick opinions on the best AF3+3/4 sets in 2025 to use the Vanabout coupon on?
WAR,RDM,SCH,BRD,THF,DRG,DNC?
(my op)
WAR - Best pieces legs/feet at +3/+4, still relevant in base TP sets. The Body for WSD for certain WS/if you don't have Nyame25/30. You get at most 3 "useful" pieces from the coupon, and the body is debatable. If you prefer Sakpata for allthings, you might not even value the legs/feet either (though I love them personally).
RDM - IMHO, probably one of the better sets to use the coupon on. The head is probably BIS for Aminon Absorb-TP with FC+Magic Accuracy, but just general FC. The hands at +4 are phenomenal for WS and are BIS enhancing hands even at +3. The Body is very good for enfeebling and a key Refresh spell piece. The legs are a great Enhancing Skill piece. The only "useless" piece is the feet, but I would still say up-and-coming RDMs should definitely use a coupon here.
SCH - another great set to use the coupon on. Every piece has a use in one way or another, even if you keep it at +3.
BRD - This is a good set if the BRD needs Magic Accuracy/Skill pieces, and some of the pieces have enhancements to certain songs. Same as SCH, every piece is good and has a use, at the very least as higher magic accuracy/song debuff pieces.
THF - Probably a hot take because THF isn't meta, but the +4 AF set for THF is bonkers. Head - amazing for WS, Body - phenomenal TP piece that isn't as squishy anymore, Legs - Competes with R30 Gleti's legs, but just a great melee option, especially with Twashtar AM3. Feet = Free +18% Movement Speed, and at +4, if I'm not mistaken, is the highest evasion footwear THF can use. The Hands are garbo though. I made these pieces first to +4 because they are so fun and what I consider to be much more significant improvements for the job vs other jobs.
DRG - I honestly wouldn't use the voucher on this set, but the body/hands are good jump pieces. The legs are good WSD if you lack Nyame 25/30, but they don't have any attack and have the same base STR as Nyame, and much less when augmented. The feet are just OK but probably not what people would use for Jumps (maybe a beginner would).
DNC - The body is great for waltzes, the head is just a macro or DW piece, and the hands are probably your best item from the set for most WS, the legs are trash, and the feet are "useful" if you need the waltz potency or the Jig duration if you're not getting it from Relic (but otherwise unnecessary if you have relic).
I'd throw WHM on this list as having a useful set that you can instantly upgrade to. At least 4 pieces are very good at just +3, and if you're building a starter WHM will have a big impact immediately. The rest of the jobs, I can't say for certain if they are worth a coupon as you don't get close to 5 useful pieces. Honorable mention to GEO, hands/legs/feet are good),
Most agree with this list, but could you explain your SCH opinion? I found much of the AF1+3 to be not-great when it first came out. (Like the body has M.Acc+50, MBDII ...and no MAB? Seems sus).
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-23 11:29:15
Head = Sublimation piece
Body = high macc piece on top of the extra dark arts skill
Hands = Best FC (if needed)
Legs = Cure potency (if needed, and not using Kayakus)
Feet = Grimoire: Spellcasting time -12% bypasses 80% cap by 10%
By Felgarr 2025-11-23 11:35:42
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »The only "useless" piece is the feet. For what it's worth, after being useless for so long, the feet suddenly become the BiS macc piece at +4, but only at +4.
While technically true, I would still only use them for spells unaffected by enfeebling magic effect AND which can't immunobreak AND which don't scale with skill...So like...Dispel? And maybe Frazzle 2, depending on your playstyle.
So even in the best case for AF feet, they're extremely, extremely niche.
Side note, I think this is accurate?

Can you share the source to this list? It's 100% accurate with how I have my RDM geared but is just missing the INT/MND designations:
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Enfeeb Effect : Dia/Bio/Gravity
Enfeeb Effect + MND : Paralyze/Slow/Addle
Enfeeb Effect + INT : Blind
Enfeeb Skill + Effect : Frazzle3/Distract123/Poison
Magic Accuracy Only : Sleep/Slience/Inundation/Dispel/Break/Bind/Impact/FrazzleI/II
I see that you have it organized for group 2 merits! Can you export it as text?
Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-11-23 19:24:02
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »The only "useless" piece is the feet. For what it's worth, after being useless for so long, the feet suddenly become the BiS macc piece at +4, but only at +4.
While technically true, I would still only use them for spells unaffected by enfeebling magic effect AND which can't immunobreak AND which don't scale with skill...So like...Dispel? And maybe Frazzle 2, depending on your playstyle.
So even in the best case for AF feet, they're extremely, extremely niche.
Side note, I think this is accurate?

Can you share the source to this list? It's 100% accurate with how I have my RDM geared but is just missing the INT/MND designations:
Code
Enfeeb Effect : Dia/Bio/Gravity
Enfeeb Effect + MND : Paralyze/Slow/Addle
Enfeeb Effect + INT : Blind
Enfeeb Skill + Effect : Frazzle3/Distract123/Poison
Magic Accuracy Only : Sleep/Slience/Inundation/Dispel/Break/Bind/Impact/FrazzleI/II
I see that you have it organized for group 2 merits! Can you export it as text?
TBH this is just something I smashed together in 5 minutes because I was curious about which spells don't benefit from any of those effects. Here's an online version.
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By Asura.Vyre 2025-11-25 13:36:40
Anyone know what the battle track for Monstrosity is called?
By jorbpumpkin 2025-11-27 10:17:10
Why do people pay 9 to 10 million gil for a stack of 99 heroism aggregates? This has stumped me for a while.
Aggregates are worth 50 RP each compared to 10 RP each for heroism crystals. But a stack of 99 heroism crystals goes for 600,000 to 700,000 gil, and people pay well over 10 times that for aggregates. These are Asura prices but the discrepancy is similar on Bahamut, Odin, and other servers.
I can't imagine the inventory space savings are worth the extra gil. Heroism crystals are always in high supply so you can get them whenever they're needed, especially now that people can farm them every day in the solo Dynamis entry zones.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-11-27 10:20:11
Dont try to figure out why stupid people do stupid ***. That's as deep as it goes.
The answer is the question. Why do stupid people do ___? Stupidity.
By jorbpumpkin 2025-11-27 10:38:59
Dont try to figure out why stupid people do stupid ***. That's as deep as it goes.
The answer is the question. Why do stupid people do ___? Stupidity.
Well, sure. I figured it was at least mostly stupidity. But I wondered if there is some additional factor I didn't think of that could partially explain it. I noticed it a long time ago when I was buying crystals, and then I thought about it a few times lately when I farmed enough aggregates to sell in a stack a couple of times. Honestly, it does seem unusually irrational for auction house prices. The market usually makes more sense.
By Nariont 2025-11-27 10:44:28
It's just to have to trade less/carry more really, not much more to gain from them vs the 10 RP variant and less so if its cheaper to buy 5 stacks vs 1. They used to be closer in pricing where it'd have added up to about the same though the aggregates were still slightly more but looks like the gaps widened some
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-27 10:45:24
People sitting on a capped gil would rather make one quick purchase and one quick trade to Oboro. Its the same reason I trade Medal's to Aurix for void/shards that I need instead of camping the AH for them.
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By jorbpumpkin 2025-11-27 10:51:03
I guess "I'm rich, ***" is a pretty good explanation.
By jorbpumpkin 2025-11-27 10:55:57
Its the same reason I trade Medal's to Aurix for void/shards that I need instead of camping the AH for them.
I guess this also helps explain why farming Kindred's Medals is so lucrative
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Shiva.Thorny
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-11-27 11:08:49
I don't think anyone is making a conscious decision to pay 2-3x as much to save the time trading. I'm pretty sure they assume it's 10x the RP and they're ok with paying a 25% markup. It's not like there are ingame notifications about the difference, it'd be a relatively easy mistake to make if you didn't look it up.
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By K123 2025-11-27 12:33:31
It honestly still blows my mind that people do that.
Typically it takes 4 runs to cap r25 if you're buying RP runs though, so 12m at 4x 3m. I realised that at 600k per stack is only about 16m to buy the crystals so I did that for the first time recently. Got most of them at 620k a stack.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-11-27 12:42:47
Buy RP runs during statue crusher and pay less, plus make money back
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-28 17:48:06
Did something change with itemizer's logic or have I gaslit myself?
I used to be able to do "get -whatever-", and it would pull the item(s if doing all) to the bottom of my inventory, even if the item was already in my inventory. Now its no longer doing that.
edit: I'm not crazy, my itemizer lua was updated with the november patch.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2025-11-28 18:11:27
Depends what you mean. If you transfer an item, it goes into the first available slot (index) in your inventory. If your inventory is empty, that is the first slot, second slot, etc. if you have been moving stuff into/out of your inventory for a while, it is damned near random.
Sort order in your inventory is different from that.
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-28 18:59:10
idk what you mean by "first available slot", because it would always go to the bottom of my inventory provided theyre in bags/wardrobe (or safe/locker/storage if I'm in MH)
I grabbed the previous version from the github history and its behaving in a way I moreso remember, though I made a mistake along the way:
Its not pulling all items that are already in my inventory to the bottom as I said it would, but its moving one of them to the bottom.
https://streamable.com/xvoff2
You can see what I mean there. "get leuj*log" does nothing on the new version, but if I plug in the older version, I can do "get leuj*log" and the item moves to the bottom, and I can do the same with "get ilrusi led*", moves to the bottom.
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-11-28 19:10:39
inb4: "why the cropping and secrecy"
I dont want to get banned and get a C&D :(
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