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 Leviathan.Horadrius
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By Leviathan.Horadrius 2024-08-15 10:43:10  
I have a multi monitor setup that crashes XI when I toggle the second monitor....is it simple to install the DirectX proxy to prevent the crashes?
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By Seun 2024-08-15 10:43:19  
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4) Clear Tier 1 V0 -> V5 -> V10 -> V15 -> V20, then same for Tier 2, 3, and Bumba.

This does not require a carry, however you must complete these steps in the order listed. Path.

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2) Clear Tier 1 V25, Tier 2 V25, Tier 3 V25, Bumba V20.

This requires a carry to get you in, but these steps are not listed in any specific order. Not a path.


The carry has no bearing on whether or not you complete steps in a given order. I never said, nor implied that there was any relation so I'm not sure why I'm being asked to rationalize it. It's not relevant either.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-08-15 11:05:30  
Leviathan.Horadrius said: »
I have a multi monitor setup that crashes XI when I toggle the second monitor....is it simple to install the DirectX proxy to prevent the crashes?
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/DgVoodoo_Setup_Guide
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-08-15 11:10:52  
Seun said: »
LightningHelix said: »
4) Clear Tier 1 V0 -> V5 -> V10 -> V15 -> V20, then same for Tier 2, 3, and Bumba.

This does not require a carry, however you must complete these steps in the order listed. Path.

LightningHelix said: »
2) Clear Tier 1 V25, Tier 2 V25, Tier 3 V25, Bumba V20.

This requires a carry to get you in, but these steps are not listed in any specific order. Not a path.
I'm now even more convinced you are Eiryl's sock, because only someone who has never done Gaol would say something like that.

You cant Clear T1 V0 > V5 > V10 > V15 > V20
And then Clear T2 V0 > V5 > V10 > V15 > V20
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By Seun 2024-08-15 11:28:20  
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I'm now even more convinced you are Eiryl's sock, because only someone who has never done Gaol would say something like that.

You cant Clear T1 V0 > V5 > V10 > V15 > V20
And then Clear T2 V0 > V5 > V10 > V15 > V20

I am not Eiryl's or anyone's sock.

I never suggested that you could clear content in this order. Where are you pulling this idea from?
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-08-15 12:09:25  
Seun said: »
I never suggested that you could clear content in this order. Where are you pulling this idea from?

Are you serious?

Seun said: »
LightningHelix said: »
4) Clear Tier 1 V0 -> V5 -> V10 -> V15 -> V20, then same for Tier 2, 3, and Bumba.

This does not require a carry, however you must complete these steps in the order listed. Path.
Right here, from you, explicitly stating "you must complete these steps in the order listed".
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By Seun 2024-08-15 12:24:37  
True of false:

"Defeating all 17 Odyssey NMs at the correct vengeance level(V20 for Bumba, V25 for the remainder), in any order, will result in being able to personally enter V25 Bumba yourself."
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By Shiva.Thorny 2024-08-15 12:36:32  
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"Defeating all 17 Odyssey NMs at the correct vengeance level(V20 for Bumba, V25 for the remainder), in any order, will result in being able to personally enter V25 Bumba yourself."

true, but you're still being pedantic and i don't think the guy asking the question was specifically requiring a method with a prescribed order
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-08-15 12:41:43  
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By Seun 2024-08-15 13:28:27  
Shiva.Thorny said: »
Seun said: »
"Defeating all 17 Odyssey NMs at the correct vengeance level(V20 for Bumba, V25 for the remainder), in any order, will result in being able to personally enter V25 Bumba yourself."

true, but you're still being pedantic and i don't think the guy asking the question was specifically requiring a method with a prescribed order


Why else would he differentiate with "->" or ","?


"Clear Tier 1 V25, Tier 2 V25, Tier 3 V25, Bumba V20."
"Clear Tier 1 V25 > Tier 2 V25 > Tier 3 V25 > Bumba V20."

While both of these statements lead to the desired result, one of them is accurate and the other would lead someone to believe that the order of operations is important, when it's not.


Surely I'm being pedantic, but ***like this is (in my opinion) largely responsible for the misinformation that plagues the community. That and the terrible reading comprehension.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-08-15 13:57:53  
Seun be like “Im being pedantic because we dont want to confuse people with misleading statements thinking the order of clears matters when it doesnt”.

Also Seun:
Seun said: »
LightningHelix said: »
4) Clear Tier 1 V0 -> V5 -> V10 -> V15 -> V20, then same for Tier 2, 3, and Bumba.

This does not require a carry, however you must complete these steps in the order listed. Path.

I think telling people they can clear tier 1 up to V20 while leaving tier 2/3/Bumba at V0 without a carry is a lot more misleading and confusing considering it is literally impossible.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2024-08-15 13:58:03  
All this path talk is tiresome, TBH. If you understand the way the system works it's totally trivial to come up with a path. There are no paths.

You're either being carried into harder fights (fewer moglophones required) or you are doing the NMs in tier-order.

The only choices you have are which NM you do in which order from each tier.

There is only one path if you're doing it "legit" and if you're doing it by being "carried" then the path is...skip as much as you can get away with.

That's why I balked at the idea of this guy coming up with all these "paths" on reddit or on these forums.

Which one of these uses fewer moglophones?
17 fights
34 fights
85 fights

Um...if you can't answer that one, you are going to struggle with the Odyssey fights, bruv.
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By Seun 2024-08-15 14:06:18  
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Seun said: »
LightningHelix said: »
4) Clear Tier 1 V0 -> V5 -> V10 -> V15 -> V20, then same for Tier 2, 3, and Bumba.

This does not require a carry, however you must complete these steps in the order listed. Path.

I think telling people they can clear tier 1 up to V20 while leaving tier 2/3/Bumba at V0 without a carry is a lot more misleading and confusing considering it is literally impossible.

I'm interpreting the quote Nynja, those aren't my words. From reading the quote, anyone would assume that these are steps that need to be completed in order, regardless of their accuracy.
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By Leviathan.Horadrius 2024-08-15 14:52:21  
Is something up with Odin HTMB? I killed it twice on Difficult and did not get any Rem's Tale drops in the pool, only the personal drops at the end.
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By Pantafernando 2024-08-15 15:02:18  
And still you want more???
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By Seun 2024-08-15 15:06:45  
Leviathan.Horadrius said: »
Is something up with Odin HTMB? I killed it twice on Difficult and did not get any Rem's Tale drops in the pool, only the personal drops at the end.

It's been a few years since I actually paid attention to the drops, but I thought they were always personal loot.

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By Leviathan.Horadrius 2024-08-15 15:46:54  
The HTMBs drop some chapters in the pool and then some additional personal drops. I thought it was weird because Difficult dropped no chapters in the pool, when I would 1 pool chapter on VE, 2 on E, 3 on N, but then zero on D?
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By Seun 2024-08-15 16:42:06  
I'm sorry, you're right. I'm remembering now that the personal loot were always specific chapters, but you'd get additional random chapters in the pool. Not sure what's up with that.
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By Asura.Karppa 2024-08-15 18:14:26  
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2024-08-15 21:33:29  
Leviathan.Horadrius said: »
The HTMBs drop some chapters in the pool and then some additional personal drops. I thought it was weird because Difficult dropped no chapters in the pool, when I would 1 pool chapter on VE, 2 on E, 3 on N, but then zero on D?

HTBFs don't have a guaranteed REM Chapters slot in the pool. Those are the Macrocosmic Orb fights where you will always see them in the pool and direct personal drop. The HTBFs just have a direct drop REM guaranteed, but the lower difficulties may just have a guaranteed REM slot to make up for the lower drop rate on armor/accessories.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-08-15 21:53:22  
I can assure you that HTMB's, Selbina and OG's, do have guaranteed REM's in pool, alongside the personal loot. I dug up an older log where I was farming Odin Prime on D and got 3 random REM's every time.
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By Pantafernando 2024-08-16 02:10:14  
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
I can assure you that HTMB's, Selbina and OG's, do have guaranteed REM's in pool, alongside the personal loot. I dug up an older log where I was farming Odin Prime on D and got 3 random REM's every time.

I'm now even more convinced you are Eiryl's sock, because only someone who has never done Gaol HTMBs would say something like that.



^Random video from 5 years ago
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By Leviathan.Horadrius 2024-08-16 06:13:02  
That’s so weird, I have gotten guaranteed treasure pool Rem’s on Selvina VE E and N HTMBs. I took a shot at Odin D and didn’t see any pool Rem’s.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-08-16 08:37:11  
I would do Maiden on E then Odin on D

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3 from Odin, 2 from Lillith, every time.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-08-16 08:39:13  
Considering all the spaghetti code and the High-Tier Mission Battlefield Campaign being live, maybe SE broke something with unintended consequences of removing rem's tales from the Selbina fights loot pool.
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By RadialArcana 2024-08-16 08:42:43  
Are you capped on the storage npc with rem tales?
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By Leviathan.Horadrius 2024-08-16 10:36:44  
This happened before the update and the campaigns. Being capped at NPC doesn't affect drops.
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By Pantafernando 2024-08-16 11:18:11  
This seems a Mandella Effect.

Because from the start I never thought weird not dropping chapters tbf
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By Shiva.Thorny 2024-08-16 11:58:35  
Are you sure the log isn't from normal or lower? They definitely drop on lower difficulties, but even in 2019 there was no drop on D:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2cjePQPq3I

(video panta linked is VD.. every D/VD video i can find has no chapter drops, but i don't think i saved my logs far enough back to when i last farmed it)
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-08-16 12:09:59  
Apparently I was doing Odin on N.


I know VD my geo was having problems reliably sticking silence for full duration for my MNK to kill in timr. I thought I downgraded to D though, not all the way to N.

Might have been related to the drop rates being ***on D or N, so I just opted for the quicker easier run.

Disregard what I posted above.
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