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Nyzul Isle : Uncharted
By Quiznor 2012-04-01 12:42:22
Phoenix.Chomeymatt said: »So with the update, I understand it to mean that we can essentially get a 100% to floor 100? So we basically would need to beat it, redeem the KI for a piece of gear we want, wash, rinse, repeat 5 times for a whole set?
Yea, its pretty much a joke now with a solid group. Ours consists of x2 Ragnarok DRKs, x2 SCHs for Embrava/Healing/Hastes/Phalanx, Ukon War and a THF for TH. We have been successful 3 times in a row. Basically adding onto what Dramatica said.
question, why do you need TH for neo nyzule? arent boss floors 100% drop?
if so wouldn't you do even better subbing the thf out for another DD?
God no its not 100%
I hear rumors of 80/100 having at least 1 piece @ 100%,but I personally can vouch for 20/40/60 not being.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-04-01 13:52:10
80 and 100 absolutely do not guarantee a drop from the boss itself,(EDIT: memory is a ***) just the KIs. That said, you're guaranteed six drops on any 100 clear via the aforementioned KI. If bringing a different job increases your chances of reaching 100 then it's almost certainly better to forego TH.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-04-01 13:56:57
Gear drops from floor 100 are supplementary and overall not important. It takes 15 clears of floor 100 to get your entire group all three full sets of armor.
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By Danza 2012-04-01 15:28:51
Floor 80 is 1 piece of Armor 100%, Cotton 100%.
Floor 100 is 1 piece of Armor 100%, Linen 100%.
Floor 20/40/60 nothing is 100%, and even w/ TH8 you can get 0 armor + no purse.
Max per boss floor is 1 purse + 3 armors of any type. If you haven't realized this by now, then your probably not hitting Floor 100. K Thnx
By Fupafighters 2012-04-01 15:31:48
Valefor.Prothescar said: »Gear drops from floor 100 are supplementary and overall not important. It takes 15 clears of floor 100 to get your entire group all three full sets of armor. Don't you get to lot the floor gear and then get a KI for 1 piece of your choice?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-04-01 15:35:51
Valefor.Prothescar said: »Gear drops from floor 100 are supplementary and overall not important. It takes 15 clears of floor 100 to get your entire group all three full sets of armor. Don't you get to lot the floor gear and then get a KI for 1 piece of your choice?
That's what he was saying.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-04-01 15:37:10
Floor 80 is 1 piece of Armor 100%, Cotton 100%.
Floor 100 is 1 piece of Armor 100%, Linen 100%.
Floor 20/40/60 nothing is 100%, and even w/ TH8 you can get 0 armor + no purse.
Max per boss floor is 1 purse + 3 armors of any type. If you haven't realized this by now, then your probably not hitting Floor 100. K Thnx My mistake, I thought we had a no-drop on our first 100 clear but it did drop one item. Sorry about that.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-04-01 15:37:56
I'm almost 100% certain that I've seen no armor drops on floor 80.
By Fupafighters 2012-04-01 15:44:37
I would do new nyzle more, but everyone on my server seems to think the gear isnt worth it >.>
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-04-01 15:44:39
It's possible it could be something like, 3 drop slots, 50% each. That would give you small chance (12.5%) of getting no armor drop on floor 100.
Likely, it would probably be more like 50, 50, 25 or something (6.25%)
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-04-01 15:45:45
I would do new nyzle more, but everyone on my server seems to think the gear isnt worth it >.>
Then everyone on your server is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. Post update, it's probably boasting the best effort: reward ratio in the game.
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By Phoenix.Chomeymatt 2012-04-01 15:58:50
Floor 80 is 1 piece of Armor 100%, Cotton 100%.
Floor 100 is 1 piece of Armor 100%, Linen 100%.
Floor 20/40/60 nothing is 100%, and even w/ TH8 you can get 0 armor + no purse.
Max per boss floor is 1 purse + 3 armors of any type. If you haven't realized this by now, then your probably not hitting Floor 100. K Thnx My mistake, I thought we had a no-drop on our first 100 clear but it did drop one item. Sorry about that.
Floor 100 can drop 0 armor, saw a SS on of it on BG. Either way it doesn't matter because everyone gets to choose 1 piece from the NPC from beating floor 100.
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By Asura.Fondue 2012-04-01 16:11:17
Phoenix.Chomeymatt said: »Floor 80 is 1 piece of Armor 100%, Cotton 100%.
Floor 100 is 1 piece of Armor 100%, Linen 100%.
Floor 20/40/60 nothing is 100%, and even w/ TH8 you can get 0 armor + no purse.
Max per boss floor is 1 purse + 3 armors of any type. If you haven't realized this by now, then your probably not hitting Floor 100. K Thnx My mistake, I thought we had a no-drop on our first 100 clear but it did drop one item. Sorry about that.
Floor 100 can drop 0 armor, saw a SS on of it on BG. Either way it doesn't matter because everyone gets to choose 1 piece from the NPC from beating floor 100.
is this because everybody already had the 1 piece that was going to drop?
By Fupafighters 2012-04-01 16:44:12
Actually not getting any drops on floor 100 does matter. I know I would rather have a shot at lotting some of the armor and knowing I get 1 100%. Helps me finish sets faster >.>
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-04-01 16:52:53
Actually not getting any drops on floor 100 does matter. I know I would rather have a shot at lotting some of the armor and knowing I get 1 100%. Helps me finish sets faster >.>
No one is saying that it's BAD if armor drops on floor 100. All they're saying is that it's more important to get to 100 and clear it, because you get armor automatically if you do. If you have to sacrifice TH to do that, then it's not a huge deal, because you're guaranteed 1 drop anyway if you make it.
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By Fupafighters 2012-04-01 16:53:59
IC lol. SO it's basically replace thf for a better setup.
By Danza 2012-04-01 17:02:39
Link? I want you to see that SS of no armor drops. I was hitting 80 consistently w/ my friends before update and since update missed floor 100 twice and I go everyday. We never took THF with us before update, and after. Past 2 days we have been taking Mandau THFs + mythic THF with us on runs, just so newer people can lot on gear. ALWAYS on Floor 80/100 was 1 armor slot 100%, 1 purse 100%. My other friends as well do not bother with THF, and can back my statement. Unless you show me SS of 0 armor/0 purses on FL100, I do not believe you. Do not spout ignorant nonsense and throw other people away from it that actually need heavy DD to hit 100.
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By Phoenix.Neosutra 2012-04-01 17:13:57
We've also had a couple lvl 80 floors with no drops (thf DC). There's no real "do you believe it". It's certainly possible, though not probable.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-04-01 17:20:45
Has anyone else had runs like this?
Jem has raised the possibility that SE's stopper may re-roll ??? jumps that put you past 100 instead of simply capping them to 100. I only have four runs of experience, but it fits for me. It also makes more sense to me than TeamTanaka giving us a free lunch.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Generic 2012-04-01 17:26:37
Has anyone had a problem where it's a code lamp floor and after everyone clicks the lamp it doesn't say the floor objective is complete ?
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-04-01 17:27:23
No, someone in your group must have *** up?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-04-01 17:33:59
I've had someone need to check it twice for some reason.
By Danza 2012-04-01 17:47:36
We've also had a couple lvl 80 floors with no drops (thf DC). There's no real "do you believe it". It's certainly possible, though not probable.
Again, SS where? You are the one going against the consensus, not I. I am merely stating from my own experience, and from others I talked to on my server that seem to be the only ones able to hit 100. I am not disagreeing on Fl20/40/60, those I have seen total suckage with TH9-10 and nothing dropping. Fl80/100 have always been 1 piece 100%/1 purse 100% for my friends and me. If anything I do however see otherwise, there will be a SS in this thread, and I will refute my claim.
Edit- I will not be a douche and post a SS of no armor once my friends and I are capped on fl 100 gear.
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On 3 of our 100 runs past 2 days, we got 92>96>99>100, and 91 >94>97>99>100, 93 > 98> 100, and managed to kill all fl100 bosses. I do not have enough info atm, but there might be some kind of reroll.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Generic 2012-04-01 17:57:36
Phoenix.Dramatica said: »No, someone in your group must have *** up? Nope, it wasn't my group. It was a group in my LS that was on vent. They had plenty of time left but even sitting around the lamp and spam checking it it wouldn't give them the objective complete
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By Quetzalcoatl.Selsha 2012-04-01 17:59:09
Quetzalcoatl.Generic said: »Phoenix.Dramatica said: »No, someone in your group must have *** up? Nope, it wasn't my group. It was a group in my LS that was on vent. They had plenty of time left but even sitting around the lamp and spam checking it it wouldn't give them the objective complete Same thing happened to me, on Skype plenty of time all at lamps but they wouldn't work, spent 15min and gave up. This was pre-update tho
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By Quetzalcoatl.Generic 2012-04-01 18:18:38
Quetzalcoatl.Selsha said: »Quetzalcoatl.Generic said: »Phoenix.Dramatica said: »No, someone in your group must have *** up? Nope, it wasn't my group. It was a group in my LS that was on vent. They had plenty of time left but even sitting around the lamp and spam checking it it wouldn't give them the objective complete Same thing happened to me, on Skype plenty of time all at lamps but they wouldn't work, spent 15min and gave up. This was pre-update tho This was yesterday
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-04-01 18:21:17
Has anyone else had runs like this?
Jem has raised the possibility that SE's stopper may re-roll ??? jumps that put you past 100 instead of simply capping them to 100. I only have four runs of experience, but it fits for me. It also makes more sense to me than TeamTanaka giving us a free lunch. The floor progression 92+ looks a lot like our runs.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Selsha 2012-04-01 18:24:03
Was it the coded floors we where getting messages like "Lamps already active etc" when they wear not, was driving us insane >.<
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-04-01 18:31:06
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By Phoenix.Neosutra 2012-04-01 18:42:03
I don't think people are noobs for only getting to 80. I however have zero sympathy for anyone that's upset that other people CAN get to 100 (you don't need clipper, though it helps immensely). I can't imagine getting to even 80 however without fillmode.
Just got finished with my first run, heres a few things I noticed. With the ??? floor up, it's a random floor in ascending order. The NM's are quite a bit harder, our DRK got one shotted by a tree NM. Most normal mobs are still pretty weak. 3-4k hp depenfing on mob. We got to floor 40 boss, was really easy. Rheic Dirs +1 and Euxine Nails +1 dropped.
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