[dev1047] New Battle System: Legion

Gonna be interesting if people go in with just Ukons as DDs. Curious to see how long these HNMs last then? Just hope certain jobs don't get excluded once the algorithum (If there is one.) for monster spawning is figured out.

What's wrong with that?

OMG I was ROFLAMO,. I could hug you for the eloquence of this statement. TY

/em goes back to check on his buried bones

DKP dont mean crap if the LS leaders and Leaders gf and butt budies show up then get full event credit while they AFK the entire evening. Some even pull the dual box thing when you know good and well the "significant Asskissers arent at the keyboard. AND I love the stray MT from the wrong keyboard everynow and then. BUSTED

Oh the crap that I have seen. Even LS mules that got more gears then the peasents.

BUT.............. BUT..... I digress in to my black hole of whallowing. Im sorry.

I do look forward to Legion. I so want some challenges to test my metal, my macros, my new jobs and gears against.

I just wonder if there is enough room behind the asskissers mules for me to get into the event. LOL

Eca

More stuff for gimps to throw bodys at :/

Update on topic today:

01-19-2012 04:47 PM [source]
Camate Community Rep	I have returned yet again to share some additional responses to feedback in regards to the new Legion content. Quote: Are there essentially only 2 (for 18 or 36 players) difficulty levels? Does this mean that it would be very difficult to attempt the battle for 36 players with only 19 players? Would it be possible to set the battle for 18 players at the easiest setting and gradually increase the difficulty for each additional player participating? I think that would be more enjoyable for the players. Quote: I think it would be best to set the lowest difficulty setting for the minimum possible number of participating players and gradually increase the difficulty for each additional player participating. I understand that adjusting the balance would probably be difficult, but it would be great if difficulty settings for 6, 12, 18, 24, 30 and 36 players can be prepared. In order to prevent all players from participating in this content with a 6 player party, a bonus that increases with the number of players participating can be implemented. A special point system can be implemented, in which more bonus points are awarded when more players are participating. The difficulty for the 36 player version will not be twice as difficult as the 18 player version. The difference will not be large enough to cause a significant disadvantage. In terms of efficiency, it would definitely be more efficient to participate with exactly 18 or 36 players, but it is still possible to participate in this content with fewer players, although efficiency would be sacrificed. In other words, it is not necessary to gather 36 players, and the difficulty settings will be set so that it is still possible to complete this content with 19 players. 　 Differences in battle strength will not affect the strength of the monsters, but instead will affect the number of monsters the party is able to defeat. The fact that legion content is not based on completion/fail basis is the biggest difference from usual battlefields. If the enemies’ strength is changed linearly with the number of players participating, parties of 19 or 36 players would be able to defeat the same number of monsters. This would greatly alter the foundation of this content, including how loot is distributed. Finally, the minimum number of players necessary to participate in this content is intentionally set lower than the number of players necessary to effectively participate in this content. This is because we do not want to set system limitations so that players are unable to creatively take on a very difficult challenge. I think it would be fun for players to attempt challenges such as trying to defeat only one monster with a very small party. Quote: I apologize if this question has been asked before. What will happen to the items in the loot pool once 30 minutes are up? If the loot is placed at the entrance after the battle, as was the case with Limbus, the loot will remain in the loot pool, which gives players about 5 minutes to distribute the loot. From what I can tell, it seems like players will be sent out to Sauromugue after the battle. Actually, I was trying to test this out while soloing and failed miserably. I got demolished by turtles, snakes and wyrms... lol This content is a continuous battle against monsters, so I’m sure there will be occasions where a monster is defeated right before time is up. I would be very disappointed if these efforts are for naught, so I would like to know how the time limit and loot distribution will actually work. There is no need to worry. In order for players to be able to enjoy the battle right until the end, we will prepare time, which is separate from the time limit, for players to distribute loot. To be specific, once the time limit is up, players will be transferred to the lobby area, where they will have 5 minutes to lot on loot. Quote: Since it seems like items are distributed through the lotting system, is this a good representation of the loot system in legion? Less players Pros: Less lotting competition (If 6 players are going after 1 item, there is a 16% chance of obtaining the item) Cons: Less monsters defeated (less item drops), More responsibility for players during the battle More players Pros: More monsters defeated (more item drops), Less responsibility for players during the battle Cons: More lotting competition (If 36 players are going after 1 item, there is a 2% chance of obtaining the item) With regard to loot, players can obtain loot either through trading Legion points or through the lotting system. If a lot of monsters are defeated by many players, there will be more loot dropped, which means there are more chances to obtain loot. Even if a player fails to obtain an item through lotting, that player accumulates Legion points with each run, which will allow the player to possibly trade for the item. With more players, there certainly is more competition when lotting on an item, but considering that there are more loot items dropped, the probability of obtaining an item will not drop as severely as you mentioned.
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Looks awesome.

So looking forward to this coming out ><

same.. it sounds like most (if not all) the drops can also be purchased. (which is different than ein) sounds nice.

I think there will be a few rare drops inside though to keep players coming, no way out of that. But! I am glad to see another Einherjar like point system coming so we can work for little things we want while we try to go for the big stuff.

Sounds more friendly then Voidwatch, but only time will tell. Nice to know that the 6-18 man chambers won't really be any different from the 19-36 chambers in terms of what you can hope to obtain, which is good for me cause I run with closer to 30 people online at any given time and it sucks having to balance out what we can and cannot do as a shell.

this x1000

Ya naturally i would assume theres a few armor/Weapons that can't be purchased. but ya. would be nice where every 5 or 10 hnms a new hnm will spawn and drop the good stuff. so you have to get so far before you have a shot at the "Drop only" loot

Sounds too good to be true. I am skeptical over the quality of said loot...

This sounds so awesome.
This + fixed limbus, einherjar, nyzul and hopefully salvage = gonna be sweeet

Hot damn. Getting more excited about this as more updates come out.

just went in solo and got destroyed by wyrm, behemoth, and turtle. this looks like it'll be fun :D

I just died a horrible death from fearsome monsters... this event is great!!

lol

Really, really looking forward to this event. It looks like Einherjar with an even better loot system and fighting bosses the whole time.

I sure hope so, would be a real let down if when it comes out it really isn't that great. :(

Staying positive though!

; ; *sigh*... don't hurt me

; ; it's not completely bad news, but that kinda sucks ; ;

01-20-2012 05:17 PM [source]
Camate Community Rep	Alrighty, I have a couple answers to some questions I am seeing in this thread. Dropped items/point items The items you can receive via drops will differ from those that you can obtain by exchanging Legion points. Apologies if it was misconstrued from previous posts that they would be the same items. Essentially even if you lose a lotting battle to obtain an item, by participating in the battle and saving up points you can get a reward. Cool down timer for re-entry There is actually no cool down timer and as long as the area is free and you are in possession of the key-item needed to enter, you can repeat this content again and again. Also, in regards to the specific questions on point acquisition, I am still checking with the development team and should have an answer pretty soon.
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At least there still is a point system, but that kinda made me sad a bit, was looking forward to buying items in the battlefield except very rare ones ; ;.

On the upside the 2nd one isn't bad at all, except the gil entry part ;x

That's too easy...I don't mind not been able to buy same drops w/ points ..never expected em to make it like that still sounds like a lot of fun ...Im just curious how big the variety of kings we will face there

Good. It'll nice to knock some tards off of the Abyssea nipple.

If this is the new HNM for us, I'm actually pretty pumped. The fact that it's not free sounds like win already.

*inb4giliseasytoget*

We may actually see some linkshell reformation over this. Let's admit it, 340,000 a run divided by 18 members sounds like a clusterfuck. Are you really going to shout in Port Jeuno and make 17 other people pay you 20k~ each run? No. You'll want to make this a linkshell only event. Basically, casuals with multiple LS's (lol) will have to pick one or another. Casuals are such a pain in the ***. They hop in and out whenever they need something. Perhaps, this will help put a damper on this.

As for looting, I can't exactly see a leader claims all situation. It's not as if it's a tier building system. It's more loot/kill/rinse/repeat. The only thing I could see happening is a shout for Legion where popper locks one item, and the rest go free? Kind of like a your brew/your lock. But that's just all speculation.

Someone mentioned WAR SAM MNK DRK onry. Possible. Most likely not. SE will want to implement some sort of weakness ***. I can see it being a piercing/slushing/blunt game. But on top of that, quality of any DD > type of DD. Always. I'm also hoping for no temp items, no abyssite, no atmacite. Easy mode, no thanks. I'm hoping MP will have limits, enmity is an issue, and outside items such as RR, Pro-Ethers, Elixirs will be needed again.

Oh my, rant/speculation/hopes, this better not let me down. I forever want to see casuals crushed and the return of a linkshell list which you can actually scroll down and see....

SAM/WAR

lol slushing :o

I'll be taking DNC to Legion.

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