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 Sylph.Sukasaroth
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By Sylph.Sukasaroth 2012-01-13 10:11:27  
I'm pretty stoked for my Amanomurakumo. So many people told me to just get a Masamune but I didn't and held out. Going to pay off in the end for me.
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 Siren.Mallicard
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By Siren.Mallicard 2012-01-13 10:12:59  
Also, afterglow = sphere but they didn't want to use that term so it seems special. So SE was obsessed with weakness triggering now they are obsessed with getting buffs to everyone but yourself!
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By Bismarck.Fonseca 2012-01-13 10:14:20  
Yup Amano all the way!
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-01-13 10:15:05  
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One consideration is whether to implement such features as another stage of the above upgrades, or to apply them to a different set of equipment.
For pups sake new equipment please. I've had enough trials for a lifetime.
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By Cerberus.Ultimatrunks 2012-01-13 10:15:35  
Awesome idea of SE. I really like this concept. Basically, they are still not sure if to make the Afterglow Trials "exceedingly" hard or not.
I really hope they do.
With a concept like that, it would respect those people who already made a relic and invested lots of time/money into it. Simply because they probably will not be totally overshadowed by the Afterglow users, meaning they still have a more than viable weapon for their main.
But even if you want to be gods, relic wielders. A 100m relic is achievable by most players without too much time invested.
If you do not make another "step" to it to distinguish the elitists from the pros, elitists get bored. Bored, because there is nothing left in the game to go after which not at least 100 other people on your server has, except for mythics, which are sadly often inferior to relics or empys. So are those people supposed to level a job they do not really like just to make use of the acquired mythic?

Those few of us who really enjoy this game and who do not mind investing a large amount of time for "topping off" equipment or who like the epeen feeling of having something that is extremely rare, we still get the chance to make that possible.
In my opinion, it is NOT meant in ANY game for one person, even if elitist, to build 5 or more relics / empyreans or with other words, build the best weapons in the game for multiple of their jobs and max them out. No matter how "hardcore" they are.
Make things special again, SE. 100 Arch DL kills would totally be fine, a few hundreds would also be survivable.
Do not make them "5", please.

Typing while phoning, mistakes in sentence structure or spelling result of a lack of multitasking abilities.
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By Ragnarok.Unctgtg 2012-01-13 10:21:00  
Na I'll enjoy the 99 Stage 1 relic. I could care less bout the afterglow part of it.
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By Odin.Almont 2012-01-13 10:25:23  
Ragnarok.Unctgtg said: »
Na I'll enjoy the 99 Stage 1 relic. I could care less bout the afterglow part of it.

Agreed.
 Siren.Kalilla
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-01-13 10:25:38  
Ragnarok.Unctgtg said: »
Na I'll enjoy the 99 Stage 1 relic. I could care less bout the afterglow part of it.
But you'll miss out on giving everyone accuracy, how could you be so selfish????

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By javelinx 2012-01-13 10:36:32  
Bismarck.Fonseca said: »
Yup Amano all the way!


this^
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By Cerberus.Sevvy 2012-01-13 10:38:03  
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Pretty much what I expected. Now who the hell will get 500 Arch DL kills for increased ACC? lol

/wave

And this will be interesting. I dont know if I have even seen a 95 emp on Cerb (I am sure they exist), now 99+afterglow is going to be lol. It keeps people in the game longer so I cant blame SE.
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By Odin.Almont 2012-01-13 10:40:51  
._. Hey, before Abyssea & God Mode I actually kind of liked that Bravura gave Eva down...
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By Bismarck.Aerison 2012-01-13 10:42:27  
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Ragnarok.Unctgtg said: »
Na I'll enjoy the 99 Stage 1 relic. I could care less bout the afterglow part of it.
But you'll miss out on giving everyone accuracy, how could you be so selfish????

:P
Relic owners are selfish! Anyway this was to be expected about damage increase, I like the fact that SE split it up into two parts. Was hoping for a bit more of an increase but any is better than none.
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By Ragnarok.Unctgtg 2012-01-13 10:48:34  
Bismarck.Aerison said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Ragnarok.Unctgtg said: »
Na I'll enjoy the 99 Stage 1 relic. I could care less bout the afterglow part of it.
But you'll miss out on giving everyone accuracy, how could you be so selfish????

:P
Relic owners are selfish! Anyway this was to be expected about damage increase, I like the fact that SE split it up into two parts. Was hoping for a bit more of an increase but any is better than none.

Come be selfish with us then.
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By Bismarck.Altar 2012-01-13 10:50:12  
Ragnarok.Unctgtg said: »
Bismarck.Aerison said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Ragnarok.Unctgtg said: »
Na I'll enjoy the 99 Stage 1 relic. I could care less bout the afterglow part of it.
But you'll miss out on giving everyone accuracy, how could you be so selfish????

:P
Relic owners are selfish! Anyway this was to be expected about damage increase, I like the fact that SE split it up into two parts. Was hoping for a bit more of an increase but any is better than none.

Come be selfish with us then.

Check his profile. He's extremely selfish.
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By Bismarck.Aerison 2012-01-13 10:52:19  
Bismarck.Altar said: »
Ragnarok.Unctgtg said: »
Bismarck.Aerison said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Ragnarok.Unctgtg said: »
Na I'll enjoy the 99 Stage 1 relic. I could care less bout the afterglow part of it.
But you'll miss out on giving everyone accuracy, how could you be so selfish????

:P
Relic owners are selfish! Anyway this was to be expected about damage increase, I like the fact that SE split it up into two parts. Was hoping for a bit more of an increase but any is better than none.

Come be selfish with us then.

Check his profile. He's extremely selfish.
Yea dawg?
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-01-13 10:53:58  
Cerberus.Ultimatrunks said: »
Awesome idea of SE. I really like this concept. Basically, they are still not sure if to make the Afterglow Trials "exceedingly" hard or not. I really hope they do. With a concept like that, it would respect those people who already made a relic and invested lots of time/money into it. Simply because they probably will not be totally overshadowed by the Afterglow users, meaning they still have a more than viable weapon for their main. But even if you want to be gods, relic wielders. A 100m relic is achievable by most players without too much time invested. If you do not make another "step" to it to distinguish the elitists from the pros, elitists get bored. Bored, because there is nothing left in the game to go after which not at least 100 other people on your server has, except for mythics, which are sadly often inferior to relics or empys. So are those people supposed to level a job they do not really like just to make use of the acquired mythic? Those few of us who really enjoy this game and who do not mind investing a large amount of time for "topping off" equipment or who like the epeen feeling of having something that is extremely rare, we still get the chance to make that possible. In my opinion, it is NOT meant in ANY game for one person, even if elitist, to build 5 or more relics / empyreans or with other words, build the best weapons in the game for multiple of their jobs and max them out. No matter how "hardcore" they are. Make things special again, SE. 100 Arch DL kills would totally be fine, a few hundreds would also be survivable. Do not make them "5", please. Typing while phoning, mistakes in sentence structure or spelling result of a lack of multitasking abilities.

I'm just worried. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying I think SE destroyed the "large LS" aspect of this game. Back in HNMLS days, you would do limbus, dyna, sea, etc etc etc. Even the DB's who would get what they want and leave, still had numberous events to get their ***from before they left.

With legion, I wouldn't see anyone staying longer than just enough runs to get what they want. If you have 3 groups.... group A being the original members, group B being lower ladder members (or low attendance w/e), and group C being future members. The only reason group B sticks around to help group A get all their ***, is the anticipation that a group C will come in to allow B to become A's when A is done getting their stuff.
With the new events and modern era: Group A gets their crap too fast for new recruits and ***falls apart too fast to keep the shell running. If this happens once or twice to a person they become reluctant to join new shells, etc.

Unless there is an influx of 3-4 different "quality" events that are released not far apart, and require more than 3-4 boxed mules to do, there won't be anything to justify large linkshells for a while. Hell, I don't think we'll have a dozen afterglow relics by 2013 because the only people who will get them are the people with a dozen people stupid enough to spam 150-300 archlords, with no benefit to themselves (assuming they don't make them drop from legion etc).
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 Sylph.Zohnax
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By Sylph.Zohnax 2012-01-13 10:53:58  
Odin.Almont said: »
Ragnarok.Unctgtg said: »
Na I'll enjoy the 99 Stage 1 relic. I could care less bout the afterglow part of it.

Agreed.
^This. No bloody way in hell am I going to bother with "Afterglow" if I can get the same stats on the weapon without having to get whatever "exceedingly hard" trials done. 1000x drops from ADL can suck it.
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By Ragnarok.Unctgtg 2012-01-13 10:55:47  
Wait what, where does it say I am selfish or because I have just 1 relic.
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By Bismarck.Aerison 2012-01-13 10:57:40  
Ragnarok.Unctgtg said: »
Wait what, where does it say I am selfish or because I have just 1 relic.
You called yourself selfish?
 Ragnarok.Unctgtg
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By Ragnarok.Unctgtg 2012-01-13 10:58:43  
Of course I am, I am the most selfish relic holder there is. I am so selfish I only have 1. ;)
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By Cerberus.Cahlum 2012-01-13 11:05:27  
40% ws dmg boost is amazing big leap from 25%
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2012-01-13 11:07:44  
12% increase in damage overall. Final heaven is still worthless
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By Quetzalcoatl.Zubis 2012-01-13 11:11:32  
Man, when the FFXI development team themselves say that something will be exceedingly difficult, you know you are well and truly screwed.
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By Odin.Almont 2012-01-13 11:16:18  
Cerberus.Cahlum said: »
40% ws dmg boost is amazing big leap from 25%

Keep in mind it's a 40% increase on the base WS damage, not +40% over & above the existing 25% already in place.
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By khidafi916 2012-01-13 11:19:38  
*** yeah
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By Carbuncle.Crollion 2012-01-13 11:20:36  
hell 15% more added to the original 25% is still a nice boost in my eyes but well wait and see after someone jumps on test server and plays with it
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By Quetzalcoatl.Zubis 2012-01-13 11:26:23  
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Additional planned features, such as equipment-specific magic spells and pets, have been postponed to allow for more thorough testing concerning attributes, the number of potential users and the process by which to obtain them. One consideration is whether to implement such features as another stage of the above upgrades, or to apply them to a different set of equipment. Also under deliberation is whether to limit the availability of such equipment or make it relatively simple to obtain.

In before "omg we're getting Bahamut with Nirvana 99 Stage 3!".
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By Lakshmi.Konvict 2012-01-13 11:31:07  
Wow +40% ws dmg boost holy ***
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By Cerberus.Cahlum 2012-01-13 11:31:54  
well I always said bahamut/meteor on claustrum, weakna on mjollnir and massacre elegy on horn would make the staff useful atleast xD
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By Fenrir.Crystenne 2012-01-13 12:29:49  
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Ragnarok.Unctgtg said: »
Na I'll enjoy the 99 Stage 1 relic. I could care less bout the afterglow part of it.
But you'll miss out on giving everyone accuracy, how could you be so selfish????

:P

I SOLOED MY RELIC SO I SHOULD GET ALL THE BUFFS QQ
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