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SOPA(Stop online Piracy Act)
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By Ragnarok.Shadowknoll 2012-01-11 14:18:26
I remember a thread being made about SOPA, but I can't seem to find it.
However for anyone who wants to know who is supporting SOPA here is a list of politicians http://sopaopera.org/ and a list of companies http://gizmodo.com/5870241/presented-without-comment-every-single-company-supporting-sopa-the-awful-internet-censorship-law
Personally anyone voting for this bill simply wants their pockets full of cash or has no idea what they are voting on. Either way they are disregarding the majority of peoples rights and should be removed from office. I plan voting against them when time comes.
Lakshmi.Flavin
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-01-11 14:29:05
Could you be more specific about what rights they are disregarding when you said "they are disregarding the majority of peoples rights"?
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By Odin.Moondaddy 2012-01-11 14:35:36
its our right to download free music and movies, because you are the 99%?
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By Ragnarok.Shadowknoll 2012-01-11 14:36:54
oh you know~ internet censorship and giving the ability to remove or take down websites deemed "bad". Don't get me wrong I don't support piracy but this will allow the power for people to take down any site they deem "bad"
Cerberus.Tikal
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-01-11 14:38:07
inb4 MMO regulations
Lakshmi.Jesi
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By Lakshmi.Jesi 2012-01-11 14:39:55
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By Odin.Moondaddy 2012-01-11 14:51:25
lets be honest here, most ppl who see anti piracy laws are like oh noez I wont be able to torrent my bleach or the new lil wayne CD. very few ppl see the big picture that something like this could kill the internet as we know it
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Bahamut.Jetackuu
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-01-11 14:51:31
Ragnarok.Shadowknoll said: »oh you know~ internet censorship and giving the ability to remove or take down websites deemed "bad". Don't get me wrong I don't support piracy but this will allow the power for people to take down any site they deem "bad"
I support piracy to an extent, but even without that this goes way too far...
(I don't like that the concept that making backup copies of your own dvds is considered illegal due to they have copyprotection software on them, it's ludicrous, also I don't like the concept that some companies think they can say what people do to the hardware they buy when they don't aim to profit, as long as they aren't redistributing their software it's none of their business).
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Bahamut.Jetackuu
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-01-11 14:52:43
lets be honest here, most ppl who see anti piracy laws are like oh noez I wont be able to torrent my bleach or the new lil wayne CD. very few ppl see the big picture that something like this could kill the internet as we know it
won't be able to stream bleach, which is over 9000 times better than the english dubbed garbage they play on television...
to some pirating is the internet as they know it...
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By Odin.Moondaddy 2012-01-11 15:01:35
I'm guilty of it too, dl'd like 4gb of dubstep over the weekend, and I got skyrim from tpb. I don't usually mess with music because its so easy to fire up Pandora or the like. games I will download to see if I like them. skyrim and fallout NV are the last 2 I downloaded, have NV for my ps3 and if I ever get the time to really sit down and play it will buy skyrim too
Bahamut.Jetackuu
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-01-11 15:06:45
I typically like to purchase music I like just because it's easier for me than searching for high quality files.
however I haven't purchased any in a long time due to the fact that most everything is ***.
The most pirating I've ever done is the Wii somebody bought me and my friend loaded a hdd with games for me.
well aside from roms.
even those I barely use...
By Artemicion 2012-01-11 15:15:15
It's funny, those companies jumping on the bandwagon to support the SOPA reminds me of the many that would click "I agree" without actually reading the terms and conditions of a license agreement so they can hurry up and use their software.
Though most of those are harmless, redundant as well as appeal to common sense, I fear many latch on to what they have no understanding and thus will harm the masses as well as become counter productive to their own company/business.
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Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-11 15:24:01
If this passes, combined with NDAA which was already passed, the government will be unstoppable (if it wasn't already). Think of the possibilities... The federal government could indefinitely detain you with no trial for hosting or maybe even posting any content deemed unfit. So then you could be labeled a terrorist without ever doing anything related to terrorism and you don't even have to leave your house.
Sounds like a great plan.
I better start reading up on how the citizens of Iran, North Korea, and China live under this type of government. Where expressing your ideas could possible get you arrested, indefinitely held, and possibly tortured just for disagreeing with those in charge.
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By Odin.Moondaddy 2012-01-11 15:24:37
I used bleach as an example instead of something like dbz or ghost in the shell to keep from sounding old lol. also completely. agree with the whole don't buy music because its ***. used to dl. like 1 or 2 good songs off a CD, now its like what's the least shitty song on this CD that I should dl lol
By volkom 2012-01-11 15:26:06
go to starbucks, torrent alll the bleach episodes
>.>
By Artemicion 2012-01-11 15:26:08
If this passes, combined with NDAA which was already passed, the government will be unstoppable (if it wasn't already). Think of the possibilities... The federal government could indefinitely detain you with no trial for hosting or maybe even posting any content deemed unfit. So then you could be labeled a terrorist without ever doing anything related to terrorism and you don't even have to leave your house.
Sounds like a great plan.
I better start reading up on how the citizens of Iran, North Korea, and China live under this type of government. Where expressing your ideas could possible get you arrested, indefinitely held, and possibly tortured just for disagreeing with those in charge.
One step closer eh?
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By Odin.Moondaddy 2012-01-11 15:27:16
they passed the ndaa but its ok, Obama said he would never use the power given in that law......
edit: besides by this time next year we wont have a military big enough to detain a 90yr old women
By Artemicion 2012-01-11 15:29:29
they passed the ndaa but its ok, Obama said he would never use the power given in that law......
Wishful thinking IMO.
The fact that the capacity for such power is there is already problematic. We have thousands of nuclear warheads but have no intention to use them...........................yet.
Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-11 15:29:39
they passed the ndaa but its ok, Obama said he would never use the power given in that law...... He also said he would veto it.
Carbuncle.Lolserj
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-11 15:29:48
I don't agree with this type of thing because I like downloading things for free
I won't lie
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Bismarck.Greezy
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By Bismarck.Greezy 2012-01-11 15:30:18
FFXIAH.com is deemed bad because all the fighting and bickering and the lost working manhours spent on the lol thread. whatever shall we do! dont forget SE nerfing ukon! nooooo!
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By Sylph.Sagiaurex 2012-01-11 15:30:45
Yeah ^ kinda died a little inside when I heard about this.
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-01-11 15:35:55
Anything that would force private agencies to censor the people on the will of the government is morally reprehensible. If an ISP wants to censor something for their own reasons, that is justifiable as they are providing the service, and there are enough competitors that a boycott and change of service would cause the ISP to die or re-adjust for.
To give the government the ability to tell every ISP you must shut this down, for we have told you so opens a dark pathway, and the end of the free internet.
If this passes, there must be civil unrest. This cannot be allowed to happen.
Contact your local government officials. Contact your congressmen, your senators.
Contact the business that support it, boycott them, rouse the news: if you don't, you're allowing a censorship to befall you, you are giving the government power over your right to think and speak.
And that simply cannot be allowed to happen.
Carbuncle.Lolserj
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-11 15:37:04
Find the nearest supporter of this and punch them in the nuts
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By Ragnarok.Shadowknoll 2012-01-11 15:37:23
If this passes, combined with NDAA which was already passed, the government will be unstoppable (if it wasn't already). Think of the possibilities... The federal government could indefinitely detain you with no trial for hosting or maybe even posting any content deemed unfit. So then you could be labeled a terrorist without ever doing anything related to terrorism and you don't even have to leave your house.
Sounds like a great plan.
I better start reading up on how the citizens of Iran, North Korea, and China live under this type of government. Where expressing your ideas could possible get you arrested, indefinitely held, and possibly tortured just for disagreeing with those in charge. and this is why I'm voting against these people yeah this bill does not pertain directly to this but it will allow things like this to happen and what bill comes after this one that they past but won't abuse?
Carbuncle.Lolserj
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-11 15:38:42
Once they know they can control some things they won't stop trying to control more and more different things
Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-11 15:40:39
Reddit is blacking out their site for 12 hours in protest. Nice gesture, but not a big enough website, as I've never gone there I just read this in news. Hopefully bigger websites like Google might do the same, but that's wishful thinking.
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Quetzalcoatl.Xueye
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-01-11 15:41:45
Reddit is blacking out their site for 12 hours in protest. Nice gesture, but not a big enough website, as I've never gone there I just read this in news. Hopefully bigger websites like Google might do the same, but that's wishful thinking.
Reddit is pretty big. There's talks that other, even larger websites may follow. Facebook was in the talks for this, too, last I checked.
Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-11 15:42:43
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »Reddit is blacking out their site for 12 hours in protest. Nice gesture, but not a big enough website, as I've never gone there I just read this in news. Hopefully bigger websites like Google might do the same, but that's wishful thinking.
Reddit is pretty big. There's talks that other, even larger websites may follow. Facebook was in the talks for this, too, last I checked. Nice Facebook is huge. (Although I don't use that either lol)
I remember a thread being made about SOPA, but I can't seem to find it.
However for anyone who wants to know who is supporting SOPA here is a list of politicians http://sopaopera.org/ and a list of companies http://gizmodo.com/5870241/presented-without-comment-every-single-company-supporting-sopa-the-awful-internet-censorship-law
Personally anyone voting for this bill simply wants their pockets full of cash or has no idea what they are voting on. Either way they are disregarding the majority of peoples rights and should be removed from office. I plan voting against them when time comes.
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