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WTF Greece?
Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-10 02:46:59
Quote: ATHENS, Greece (AP) — Greek disability groups expressed anger Monday at a government decision to expand a list of state-recognized disability categories to include pedophiles, exhibitionists and kleptomaniacs.
The National Confederation of Disabled People called the action "incomprehensible," and said pedophiles are now awarded a higher government disability pay than some people who have received organ transplants.
The Labor Ministry said categories added to the expanded list — that also includes pyromaniacs, compulsive gamblers, fetishists and sadomasochists — were included for purposes of medical assessment and used as a gauge for allocating financial assistance.
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Seriously wtf?
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2012-01-10 02:51:57
Call it a mental disability and thats what you get >:
Bismarck.Eburo
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By Bismarck.Eburo 2012-01-10 02:56:21
Creating incentive for pedophilia? (albeit unintentional I'm sure)
W...t...f....
Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-10 02:59:02
Kleptomaniacs receiving disability checks... let me think that one over a bit...
Edit: compulsive gamblers as well...
Bahamut.Nixak
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By Bahamut.Nixak 2012-01-10 02:59:04
We are talking about Greece. What did you expect?
Cerberus.Irohuro
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2012-01-10 03:10:13
no wonder greece is doing terrible, they almost make the US look fiscally responsible
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By Lakshmi.Jesi 2012-01-10 03:15:56
This would make it insanely easy for anyone to get a disability check.
Just go steal some stuff and boom check in the mail baby.
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By Asura.Elvaton 2012-01-10 04:00:26
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Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-10 08:18:15
Creating incentive for pedophilia? (albeit unintentional I'm sure)
W...t...f.... Yeah paying pedos to be pedos can't be doing any good.
This would make it insanely easy for anyone to get a disability check.
Just go steal some stuff and boom check in the mail baby. That was my first thought too.
Greece be tripping, no wonder why they're in such bad shape economically.
Caitsith.Sai
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By Caitsith.Sai 2012-01-10 08:26:08
I think Greece is holding a Going Out of Business sale.
Their money wont be worth ***soon, so might as well give it all away.
Greece's Gov trolls with the best of em.
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Ragnarok.Evandis
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By Ragnarok.Evandis 2012-01-10 08:39:00
This is the same country, that has been bailed out twice in the last year, continues to fail. They say the sign of insanity is to try to do things the same way and expect different results...
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-01-10 08:40:30
I hope we're missing something here that explains things better...this can't possibly be true...
Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-10 08:40:31
Greece be tripping, no wonder why they're in such bad shape economically.
They're just double checking that they get the fark.com tag.
Along with probably: , , and .
Edit: I'm not studied enough. Apparently the Stupid tag was already earned. This made me lol!
Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-10 08:42:28
I hope we're missing something here that explains things better...this can't possibly be true... I was thinking maybe something was lost in the translation somewhere.
Anyone live in Greece or know Greek...? You'd think news reporters would have double checked something like that...
By zahrah 2012-01-10 14:55:24
This is a country with a ridiculous retirement age. They've been bailed out twice, and expect the rest of Europe to pay for their culture of idleness. When they don't get what they want they throw a fit, and by fit I mean riot. The whole country lives on handouts.
***! Even the last two generations of the deposed Greek Royal Family won't go back. The Onassis family sure isn't out and about. All other families of Greek shipping tycoons are either in the States or elsewhere in Europe.
Germany should have stayed with the DM and France should have kept their Francs. 'Nuff said!
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2012-02-12 19:48:31
Oh, Greece! Pull it together, please!
Quote: Finance Minister Evangelos Venizelos said the measures were vital to the country's very economic survival.
"The question is not whether some salaries and pensions will be curtailed, but whether we will be able to pay even these reduced wages and pensions," he told lawmakers before the vote. "When you have to choose between bad and worse, you will pick what is bad to avoid what is worse."
The new cutbacks, which follow two years of harsh income losses and tax hikes amid a deep recession and record high unemployment have been demanded by Greece's bailout creditors in return for a new batch of vital rescue loans.
Greece's eurozone partners, meanwhile, kept up the pressure for real reform.
German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble was quoted as telling the Welt am Sonntag newspaper on Sunday that Greece "cannot be a bottomless pit."
Highlighting previous pledges he said weren't kept, Schaeuble said "that is why Greece's promises aren't enough for us any more."
Asked whether Greece has a long-term future in the eurozone, Germany's Vice Chancellor Philip Roesler said "that is now in the hands of the Greeks alone."
"It is not enough just to give financial aid – they must tackle the second cause of the crisis, the lack of economic competitiveness," he told said ARD television. "For that, they need ... massive structural reforms. Otherwise Greece will not get out of the crisis."
Introducing the legislation Sunday, Socialist lawmaker Sofia Yiannaka said the intense pressure from Greece's EU partners to pass the measures was the result of delays in implementing already agreed reforms.
"The delays have our imprint. We should not blame foreigners for them," she said. "We have finally found out that you have to pay back what you have borrowed."
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2012-02-12 20:11:08
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2012-10-10 14:29:33
Slow day, so...
Greek ingrates?
I don't understand how the people of Greece can expect numerous loans without expecting conditions attached. I've been a little peeved by the insinuation that Merkel and the German people, (Keep in mind that the German retirement age has been boosted from age sixty-five to age sixty-seven, where as the Greeks have had a retirement age of fifty to fifty-two, depending on gender, since the 1970's.) are completely responsible for their continuing economic decline.
Quote: "Merkel we are a free nation and not your colony," said one banner. Another read, "Merkel Raus (out, in German). Murderer of 3,500 Greeks," a reference to the number of Greeks who have taken their own lives, according to some estimates, as a result of the current hardship.
Pretty petty that the Greeks would also compare Nazi genocide to Greeks who took "the easy way out".
Also, seeing as though Southern Italy is still reeling and Spanish states want to separate now, would it really be that big of a loss if the Netherlands, Germany, and France just cut Greece loose to focus on Italy and Spain? Greece has defaulted multiple times beginning in the late 1800's. Why keep throwing money into a bottomless pit?
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By Lakshmi.Deces 2012-10-10 14:43:06
I guess that would imply that it is cheaper to give pedophiles, exhibitionists and kleptomaniacs a hand out rather than incarcerate them. If they really cared about saving money they would have them die of lead poisoning.
Siren.Mosin
By Siren.Mosin 2012-10-10 14:43:37
Germany should just take over Europe.
Gilgamesh.Schmule
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By Gilgamesh.Schmule 2012-10-10 14:56:28
Germany should just take over Europe.
Shhhh..... They might get ideas ;)
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Cerberus.Tikal
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-10-10 15:00:18
I think that almost happened once.
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By Bismarck.Leneth 2012-10-10 15:13:53
Keep in mind that the German retirement age has been boosted from age sixty-five to age sixty-seven, where as the Greeks have had a retirement age of fifty to fifty-two, depending on gender, since the 1970's. These numbers may be misleading when you add also that 30% of the 60+ year olds in Germany still work and if I remember a politician right at 65years it is around 5-8%.
They should focus more on the IMF then on Germany with their hatred in my opinion.
Quote: Why keep throwing money into a bottomless pit? Currently Germany profits of the Euro during the crises unlike the first years when the investition money migrated out of Germany to the southern countries.
Also no one knows what will happen if Greece leave. There are opinions from a downvalued currency and quick recovery after 1-2 years which would be problematic for those who currently put money into it, also it would work it would be a signal for spain/portugal to leave as well which would really hurt the current debt holders.
Other opinions would be a domino effect of ruined financials for every country within the euro if the markets and rating agency play Musical chairs (without the last being a winner) with us while America has problems and finds no way to fix them.
Either way it has high risks and will cost a lot of money.
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Cerberus.Pleebo
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2012-10-10 15:32:14
greese
wat r u doin
greese
stahp
Caitsith.Zahrah
By Caitsith.Zahrah 2012-10-10 15:43:53
These numbers may be misleading when you add also that 30% of the 60+ year olds in Germany still work and if I remember a politician right at 65years it is around 5-8%.
Very true. I just added the general retirement age for both.
They should focus more on the IMF then on Germany with their hatred in my opinion.
Absolutely agree!
Currently Germany profits of the Euro during the crises unlike the first years when the investition money migrated out of Germany to the southern countries.
Also no one knows what will happen if Greece leave. There are opinions from a downvalued currency and quick recovery after 1-2 years which would be problematic for those who currently put money into it, also it would work it would be a signal for spain/portugal to leave as well which would really hurt the current debt holders.
Other opinions would be a domino effect of ruined financials for every country within the euro if the markets and rating agency play Musical chairs (without the last being a winner) with us while America has problems and finds no way to fix them.
Either way it has high risks.
Granted, the ripple effect would be somewhat devastating for a period, couldn't Northern Europeans, at least, take comfort in the fact that they have the ability to bounce back?
It seems as though Greeks are already on the fence about leaving the Euro-zone anyway. How much longer can Northern Europe sustain Greece, Italy, and Spain realistically without it being a financial detriment to themselves?
My cousins complain that even though the unemployment rate in Germany has fallen since 2008, there is still a fair amount of competition. Especially considering immigration into Northern Europe, and like you pointed out, most "retirement-age" folks aren't retiring. (Hmmm...Sounds almost like the US.)
Gilgamesh.Schmule
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By Gilgamesh.Schmule 2012-10-10 15:47:29
I think that almost happened once.
Erm, twice. Jesus, did you even go to school, or is it just because you didn't "save our ***" in the first one?
Cerberus.Tikal
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-10-10 15:51:25
Gilgamesh.Schmule said: »I think that almost happened once.
Erm, twice. Jesus, did you even go to school, or is it just because you didn't "save our ***" in the first one? Sense of humor. Get.
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Caitsith.Zahrah
By Caitsith.Zahrah 2012-10-10 15:52:11
Gilgamesh.Schmule said: »I think that almost happened once.
Erm, twice. Jesus, did you even go to school, or is it just because you didn't "save our ***" in the first one?
^^^Uh oh! We're going the WWII route!^^^
We got a Brit in our midst!
Quote: ATHENS, Greece (AP) — Greek disability groups expressed anger Monday at a government decision to expand a list of state-recognized disability categories to include pedophiles, exhibitionists and kleptomaniacs.
The National Confederation of Disabled People called the action "incomprehensible," and said pedophiles are now awarded a higher government disability pay than some people who have received organ transplants.
The Labor Ministry said categories added to the expanded list — that also includes pyromaniacs, compulsive gamblers, fetishists and sadomasochists — were included for purposes of medical assessment and used as a gauge for allocating financial assistance.
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Seriously wtf?
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