The Last Dance: Gearing Paradigms For A New Age

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The Last Dance: Gearing Paradigms for a New Age
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 Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2012-03-07 20:13:38  
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: »
Would I be a bad person if I use this supernal knife in Abyssea?

I don't have Twash*, my 2 usual daggers are STR and AGI Thokchas.

It's Abyssea. Use swords for all it really matters.

h2h! climactic + combo or bust!
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 20:15:15  
Anyway Supernal Knife is +10% CAB ~10% of the time.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 20:18:07  
By the way Dancers, this isn't really specific to us, but Campaign Battle is a pretty decent Gil/Hr money maker at this point.

I just mention it in this thread because DNC is especially good at it.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-07 20:19:12  
Assuming you don't use all the voiddust on yourself.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 20:21:26  
If I don't do any VW until ToAU / CoP Voidwatch are released, I might have enough to get away with getting all my drops again without buying a single voiddust!
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-03-07 20:22:40  
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Anyway Supernal Knife is +10% CAB ~10% of the time.

I've been foolin' around with it a little bit, it just seems to level out the evis I throw around. I don't get as many low end ones but haven't had any big spikes either :/

I just like using something that doesn't have the bone knife dat tbh
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 20:36:14  


my thokcha lol
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 20:39:46  
also stupid hat, but meh
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-03-07 20:43:12  
I love your Thokcha, but I am too selfish to use a dat mod. I don't want everyone else have pretty daggers too >:(
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By Bismarck.Zuidar 2012-03-07 20:48:27  
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my thokcha lol

Is that a rose on there? impressive, especially for a dancer
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 20:49:42  
http://ffxidats.caarrie.com/index.php?topic=183.0
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By Bismarck.Zuidar 2012-03-07 20:52:45  
I must say I'd be more surprised for SE to make a Dagger for DNC with any type of flower on it. Kinda sucks imo that Charis Tiara's flower doesn't show on male characters
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 20:53:24  


Like that? lol
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By mortontony1 2012-03-07 20:56:12  
You're such a sexy BST DNC Sylow lol
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By Bismarck.Zuidar 2012-03-07 21:07:59  
Yeah that's it! But now i'm curious about that coruscanti again...
has anyone found out how it actually works? The "Severe DMG" wasn't what I imagined, especially looking around posts awhile back seeing what it could do but nothing out of the ordinary
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By Fupafighters 2012-03-07 21:16:43  
I heard weird rumors of just caped pDIF? or some crap like that. Maybe that's how it functions?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 21:43:23  
no one knows
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-03-07 22:04:00  

I registered up, still not seeing a download link? Just seeing a preview image :<
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 22:24:17  
"Please make sure you post in the Introduction board so you can get full access to the site."
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-03-07 22:36:47  
Sylow, what on earth would I do without you?
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2012-03-07 22:54:32  
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
I also find it exceedingly hard to believe that it's dying in 2 staggers only.

I know that people have to use chainspell at the right time, I'm not an idiot.

I think you're exaggerating and setting an unrealistic standard of what to expect from the Botulus Rex fight for people who haven't fought it before.


It is entirely possible to kill B.rex with 2, or even 1 EV/HQ stagger only with BLM tank method, although your pt needs extremely high dmg output.

There are some tricks to increase the dmg output of the pt:

1. Have at least 5 BLM(some ppl do 6 even, but I usually do 5 to include more jobs for proc), while 4 BLMs in BLM pt focus on DD and another BLM focus on proc.

2. When you invite BLMs, leader have to make sure they have capped elemental skill and magian thunder staff. JP pt leads often make sure BLMs meet the requirement, that's why they never fail.

3. Before you pop the NM, COR x2 can do roll rotation and buff the BLM pt with mattk/macc(or fast cast) roll, then disband and go back to melee proc pt and buff TP roll x2. I honestly never play BLM, so I'm not entirely sure if macc is more beneficial or fast cast. I'm assuming macc if you're using magian staff maybe?

4. Have WHMs /SCH and boost AGI+Firestorm WF COR and RNGs. WF can hit 3k avg(avg, not spike) on Rex without firesday/fireshot bonus if properly buffed by WHM. On firesday it's entirely possible to hit 3.3k+ avg.

5. WF COR and RNGs need Atmacite of slayer+save TP atmacite lv 15, and karin Obi.

If all the BLM/COR/RNG/WHM meet above requirement, it's possible to reach less than 50% after 1st EV/HQ proc, thus only need 1~2 HQ/EV to win. The real problem is to find this many ppl that meets the requirement.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 23:27:13  
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The real problem is to find this many ppl that meets the requirement.

Bingo!

But thanks for all that information. It should really help out people who are looking to fight Rex for the first time :)
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-08 00:08:21  
Just a little spoiler for the next section I'm working on adding:

DNC 201 Part II: Situational Equipment and Macro Pieces

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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-03-08 00:10:33  
lol <,<

I have to say, after playing Dancer I feel really random-equipment light when I go out on THF or WAR.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-08 00:12:36  
I don't think we have a single non-merit job ability that doesn't have more-or-less required macro equipment attached to it.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-08 00:13:36  
I guess Animated/Desperate/Wild, but they're in categories with flourishes that DO have macro pieces.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-08 00:13:53  
Same goes for lolternary.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-03-08 00:19:53  
Well, if we felt like it we could stack Enmity for Animated and Accuracy for Desperate/Wild. They don't have specific macro pieces for the JA, though.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-08 00:21:47  
What exactly determines the hit rate for D. Flourish, anyway? Is it accuracy? Magic accuracy? Some combination?
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-03-08 00:24:34  
Could be both, but it's at least melee Accuracy I think. It might have some kind of penalty, but I haven't been able to automate a test for it because the act of gravity-ing the monster would change the hit rate.
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