The Last Dance: Gearing Paradigms For A New Age

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The Last Dance: Gearing Paradigms for a New Age
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By Kalima 2012-02-17 18:01:55  
Oh snap!
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By mortontony1 2012-02-17 22:16:36  
Am I crazy or are you wearing a shield?
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By Siren.Mcclane 2012-02-17 22:17:34  
Kalima said: »
Oh snap!

Getting past Glavoid basically means you're about 85% the way done with 85 Twash! But seriously, grats
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By Kalima 2012-02-18 02:27:57  
mortontony1 said: »
Am I crazy or are you wearing a shield?

Its a .dat of my wings (same in my avatar)

and thanks guys, but the real thanks goes to my ls mate who litterally 4 boxed his characters while we grinded out not only glavoid but chloris too in less than a week. Think most people would end up in a padded cell + straight jacket after doing something like that...
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By Odin.Minefield 2012-02-18 02:55:47  
I think that dat looks amazing o.o

And well done on Chloris/Glavoid, hated doing those D:

Tell your friend he has a lot of patience lol, even for my own Twash I hardly wanted to do it, my brain couldn't take it.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-02-18 04:41:32  
congratulations kali, the kos-mos wings is a nice touch with that look of yours~
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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2012-02-18 18:22:59  
Rage!!!!!
Flame Geode is 80k now!!!!!!!!



So......I eventually gave in... :(.. I was orginally going to buy ocelm. Head piece and the potestas bomblet but figured flame geode price won't go down anytime soon.....
(sorry about the bad quality)

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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-19 01:02:26  
Man, I got them for 10-30k...
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-19 01:07:54  
is there some reason BLMs suddenly needed to make fire staves en masse or or is it just pyrosoul rings that have driven the price up?
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By Bismarck.Cicada 2012-02-19 01:11:02  
Sylow! Where did you go friday? :< we beat PW!
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By Siren.Mcclane 2012-02-19 01:12:02  
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
is there some reason BLMs suddenly needed to make fire staves en masse or or is it just pyrosoul rings that have driven the price up?

Pretty sure the gem you can get from desynthing them is used in the Ocelomeh gear as well. The gems also go for ~1.6mil on Siren.
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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2012-02-19 01:12:22  
TBH I have no idea.... I'd say a lil bit of both.
Most i ever paid for one was 60k most where 30-50 luckily people where reasonable with their prices....

Browsing through the cross server.....
On Phoenix:
Flame Geode: Highest price value (tied with carbuncle) (60,000)
Flame Gem: Second highestlowest price (tied with Quetzalcoatl) (1 Mil)
Pyrosoul Ring: Lowest price (tied with siren) (1.3mil)


It's weird to check that then compare that with siren seeing that
Your Geodes are 40k and gems are 1.7.

Eh just shows how server vary on price....
Siren.Mcclane said: »

Pretty sure the gem you can get from desynthing them is used in the Ocelomeh gear as well. The gems also go for ~1.6mil on Siren.
Indeed. On phoenix I rarely see people with the harness.... or atleast the synth one anyway.... majority of the time people wearin Toci's Harness
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-19 01:21:34  
Bismarck.Cicada said: »
Sylow! Where did you go friday? :< we beat PW!
Bismarck.Cicada said: »
Sylow! Where did you go friday? :< we beat PW!
My ride threatened me with violence.
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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2012-02-19 01:31:15  
Hmmmm
Still debatin
If it's worth the extra 3.6 mil
for
DEF:+1 DEX+1 AGI+1 Haste +1% 1+HP/tic
on Oce. Headpiece +1
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-19 01:35:12  
Ummm, not really, but I bought one anyway, more for the regen actually...
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By Bismarck.Cicada 2012-02-19 01:35:43  
it makes you look funny. :x

/hides
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-19 01:37:28  
It is pretty hideous.
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By Shiva.Shinneh 2012-02-19 04:55:48  
Any recommended second augment for the Anwig Salade? I know CHR+4 "Waltz" ability delay -2 is the main reason for doing AMK, but I was unsure of what else to put on the headgear.
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By Zeota 2012-02-19 07:13:27  
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
It is pretty hideous.
Indeed that can be said for a vast majority of new armor that has come out over the past year. They sure like to take "form follows function" to the extreme.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-02-19 09:38:16  
So we're sure there's no use for Prosilio Belt for us? I got two this weekend out of like 6 WoE runs, lol. <_<;
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-02-19 09:39:28  
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Any recommended second augment for the Anwig Salade? I know CHR+4 "Waltz" ability delay -2 is the main reason for doing AMK, but I was unsure of what else to put on the headgear.
More CHR :D
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By Kalima 2012-02-19 10:15:45  
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
So we're sure there's no use for Prosilio Belt for us? I got two this weekend out of like 6 WoE runs, lol. <_<;

Would it do anything for Pk over the 6 str 6 dex belt with saber up maybe?

Otherwise...sell them and buy something else? 4 mil could probably knock out quite a bit of riftdross/alexandrite XD
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-19 10:26:30  
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
So we're sure there's no use for Prosilio Belt for us? I got two this weekend out of like 6 WoE runs, lol. <_<;

I can toss it in some spreadsheets later to see what happens.
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By Kalima 2012-02-19 19:52:49  
Ok a couple of questions: First, does love torque fit anywhere anymore or should I not even bother at this point? (yes I still don't have one ; ;)

Second question pertains to a lengthy discussion that I had with a friend about a week ago. In a very niche situation where you start out with 0 TP, NFR is down, and you're not in VW so can't constantly pop wings which situation would be better for pure DD: A) TPing to 300 for level 3 aftermath and spam your strongest WS afterwards or B) TPing to 100 for lvl 1 aftermath then using your strongest WS with that (thus getting in 2 more strong WS by comparison) and refreshing lvl 1 when needed. The discussion was mostly for Terpsicore (which my friend is currently working on) but for arguments sake we can throw Twash in there as well.

Ready...Go!
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-19 20:00:01  
Love Torque isn't really worth it.

It's pretty much dead even with Justiciar's Torque assuming normal attack circumstances, with Gorget slightly behind the two of them (by slightly, I mean 2-3 damage on your 2500-3500 dmg WS).

If we pump attack up very high (Berserk + Building, Berserk + Chaos Roll), then Justiciar's begins to drop in effectiveness compared to LT and Gorget. But, LT also loses the benefit of its +7 attack, and Gorget pulls ahead.

As far as Terp is concerned, you're going to want to ride dat AM3.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-02-19 22:05:30  
Kalima said: »
Terpsicore
Lighting the Byrth signal here. There was a small discussion of Terp builds a while back and I'm curious as to some of the background details.

Was it ever actually demonstrated that the single-wield builds discussed were superior to DW builds, or just assumed? What were the parameters? I'm working on constructing some Tizona builds and as far as I can tell DWing ends up being very competitive with a single-wield build even given that I'll be spamming Requiescat (6 hits with DW). DNC has higher base DW, superior DW gear, similar multihit rate, and fewer hits on your WS of choice (usually), so I'm curious how that pans out for DNC and concerned that I may be making an error somewhere.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-19 22:15:22  
The single-wield superiority assumed Marchx2 + Haste + Haste Samba. Are you using that assumption in your calculations?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-02-19 22:17:57  
Ahh, that would be why. I don't assume Samba on BLU and you obviously shouldn't be using DW gear on DNC if you have max haste buffs.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-19 22:31:50  
The part that's not obvious is forgoing your own natural DW. DNC can get something like 78.something% while single-wielding. So you're using an offhand that decreases the frequency of your AM3 strikes to get the last 1.something% haste or so.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-02-20 01:08:50  
Yeah, it was because we can get such high Haste when properly buffed and the DPS of an AM3 Terpsichore (iirc I was specifically talking about using it in healing situations, so no Saber Dance) exceeds the next best option by more than the ~10% gain the last point or two of Haste gives you. Also, I think I was running those numbers at level 90.

I will have to look at it again, but I accidentally lost my Airy Buckler during a mule server transfer, so I'm basically screwed out of the prettiest 1H build anyway.

I bought Cua Headpiece +1 yesterday. I guess I use it on Evisc and PK!


Also, I can't for the life of me figure out why, but Rudra's Storm does much more respectable damage than I remember. It doesn't have increased http://fTP. It doesn't have an Attack bonus. It doesn't have some kind of innate DA. Double Damage can't proc on the main hit. I don't get it! Still, I did a Salvage run yesterday spamming nothing but Rudra's Storm and came out 2 minutes faster than average (78 minutes).
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