The Last Dance: Gearing Paradigms For A New Age

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 Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-08 16:52:27  
what else would you have spent that gil on anyway :D
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By mortontony1 2012-02-08 17:04:31  
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spent the last 6 months grinding up 500-600mil

Doing what?! That's a HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE amount of money...
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-08 17:05:06  
That's only like 3mil/day. Very doable.
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By mortontony1 2012-02-08 17:09:27  
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That's only like 3mil/day.

How? I hear dynamis runs can net about a mil a day, so that's two hours there, and the remaining would have to be about 800k of cruor assuming you're going that way, I've seen cruor up to 100k an hour and even at that it's 8 hours, plus 2 for dynamis. That's assuming no crafting which I wouldn't expect to be a better time:profit ratio. Does VW get you more cruor?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-08 17:14:23  
Hakuryu! loooooooooooool
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-02-08 17:17:55  
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I hear dynamis runs can net about a mil a day
Try twice that.
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By mortontony1 2012-02-08 17:18:01  
Oh jeez lol
Gave up fishing recently. Not worth it imo. Only at 20-something and it was taking so long. Rather just leech in cruor parties lol
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By mortontony1 2012-02-08 17:19:11  
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mortontony1 said: »
I hear dynamis runs can net about a mil a day
Try twice that.

Seriously? I just mathed that at ~150 in a run selling around 7k (going rate on Fenrir) that would be 1 mil. I though ~150 was what people tend to pull in?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-02-08 17:19:12  
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Hakuryu! loooooooooooool
I have 77 fishing, should finish that sometime >_> *** Ebisu quest though auuuuuuuuugh.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-02-08 17:20:48  
Over the 6 months, Dynamis net me 1.5~3mil average per run. My best runs were immediately after forgotten items were released, when I was pulling in ~5 mil per run average. My highest was 6mil. Now I get a little over 1mil worth of forgotten items and nearly 2mil worth of coins for a total around 3mil per run.

Salvage is good for another ~1 mil worth of Alexandrite per night, but it takes ~1.5 hours including running time. It makes about half the gil per hour that Dynamis makes, so Dynamis is my priority.

Limbus is another option that I use when I don't have much time. I can sell coins for 8k each (people are lazy) and Limbus zones take about 30 minutes to clear top to bottom. Last night I cleared Apollyon NW (Kings) in 25 minutes and got over 50 coins.

The biggest thing is consistency. Doing Dynamis once a night (2 hours, 3 mil) for 6 months would net you 540mil, but who is actually going to do Dynamis every single night? Well, me lately. But I like to mix it up and do Dynamis + Limbus one night, 2x Salvage the next, etc. I spend about 3 hours per night farming gil and missed over a month of Dynamis/Salvage runs when my controller was broken.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-08 17:20:56  
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mortontony1 said: »
I hear dynamis runs can net about a mil a day
Try twice that.

Seriously? I just mathed that at ~150 in a run selling around 7k (going rate on Fenrir) that would be 1 mil. I though ~150 was what people tend to pull in?

Throw in a WHM mule like Byrth has and you should be getting at least 250.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-02-08 17:21:46  
mortontony1 said: »
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
mortontony1 said: »
I hear dynamis runs can net about a mil a day
Try twice that.

Seriously? I just mathed that at ~150 in a run selling around 7k (going rate on Fenrir) that would be 1 mil. I though ~150 was what people tend to pull in?
7k is a little low and from what I remember Byrth averages 250-300/run DNC+WHM (2box) along with Forgotten items.

I should see what I can pull in sometime, I've hardly touched neo-Dynamis. Hoping the clusterfuck eases somewhat after this update. So tired of grind though...
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By mortontony1 2012-02-08 17:25:23  
Oh jeez totally forgot forgotten items >.<
And just from the shouts I've been seeing, they're 7k ish, maybe 7.5
And the 2x box would certainly help. I retract my prior statement lol.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-08 17:25:59  
I really need to get a 2box :|
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By mortontony1 2012-02-08 17:30:14  
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I really need to get a 2box :|

I've been wanting one for quite some time... I just can't justify it to myself when I can barely justify my one account to myself
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By Fupafighters 2012-02-08 17:39:25  
So i read the first page about daggers again and for the sake of not reading 30 pages to hopefully find a answer, is the tp bonus dagger decent offhand for a twashtar dnc?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-08 17:40:25  
It's generally not a good choice.
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By Fupafighters 2012-02-08 17:41:15  
2 boxing really makes the game playable when you cant find anyone...but be warned...you will want to keep giving stuff to your alternate lol... -.-
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By mortontony1 2012-02-08 17:42:23  
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2 boxing really makes the game playable when you cant find anyone...but be warned...you will want to keep giving stuff to your alternate lol... -.-

Idk about Sylow but I would just level blm and whm, neither of which I have on main so I wouldn't really have that issue.
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By Fupafighters 2012-02-08 17:43:24  
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It's generally not a good choice.
Thanks lol. I figured I got my twashtar and only had an evasion thokcha offhand so I would make something else to see if it would make my rudra and such a little better. >.< I do about 300 ws every 2 hours in abyssea so I'm on the last trial before tp bonus haha -.- So str thokcha increases my base dmg on twashtar pretty much is what your saying is my best option? Is it bad to go for a double attack dagger?
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By Fupafighters 2012-02-08 17:44:17  
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Fupafighters said: »
2 boxing really makes the game playable when you cant find anyone...but be warned...you will want to keep giving stuff to your alternate lol... -.-

Idk about Sylow but I would just level blm and whm, neither of which I have on main so I wouldn't really have that issue.
All i have is whm and rdm and I keep wanting to feed it stuff for brd and blm too haha. Even though I still have so much left on my main.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-08 17:46:14  
Inside Abyssea, the Thokcha isn't going to be increasing your base damage, but it is 22 attack.
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By Fupafighters 2012-02-08 17:49:35  
OK so basically Str thokcha is my best option eh? I was going to build a double attack too but thats alot of work if Str beats it.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-08 17:51:22  
You can probably get away with TP bonus inside Abyssea, too.

But uh, just about everywhere else, STR is gonna win!
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By Fupafighters 2012-02-08 17:51:50  
Cool Tyvm :)
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-08 20:40:13  
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By Kalima 2012-02-08 21:53:43  
Needs more etoile/charis IMO

Back on topic. Got a lulx this morning (of course not real dagger or boots wanted to drop -_-) This thing worth using at all until I finish my cake knife? Or should I stick with STR thok + oynos?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-02-08 21:56:27  
You should replace Oynos with something better as soon as your TP is low again after Haste procs.

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