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 Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-05-26 02:50:33  
Kin37ix said: »
Windbuffet isn't consistent. It does jack ***for 97/100 weaponskills.
Who cares? It averages better than an elemental belt when you don't need the accuracy.

And Unkai > Atheling, fyi.
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By Shiva.Brunwulf 2012-05-26 02:53:43  
Thank you, Austar ^^ main thing I wanted to know was the earrings.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-05-26 02:59:42  
Consistency is the stupidest thing ever to gear for.

Unless you're doing relic kill shot trials.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-05-26 03:01:47  
Whoever thinks consistent WSs that do less over time are better.
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By Shiva.Brunwulf 2012-05-26 03:03:13  
What I'm telling you is the back I do consistantly more than atheling. The earring I'm working on (moonshade).
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-05-26 03:07:45  
Well then don't use atheling, because it only works 3% of the time too, since you're most likely going to be attack capped on shoha.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-05-26 03:10:40  
Well then you can continue to do less average with your consistency.
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By Shiva.Brunwulf 2012-05-26 03:11:54  
Well that's why I'm asking, I get mix responses. Some say DA over str, others say STR over DA.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-05-26 03:13:57  
Brutal, Phorcys Mitts, and situationally atheling are all you should use DA-wise for Shoha. Windbuffet belt and ganesha's mala both beat gorget if you don't need accuracy.
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By Shiva.Brunwulf 2012-05-26 03:14:12  
Kin37ix said: »
You can stack the ***out of some DA, and still have nice stats with it. TA, QA, not so much.

With TA, QA, the appeal is they trigger first. If I got the game mechanics down. So if QA doesn't proc then you got your TA chance then DA. Increasing your chances to swing multiple times by more than just the base % on the item.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-05-26 03:15:05  
Kin37ix said: »
You may never see a windbuffet proc on a 6 stone vw run. Consistency just won that parse. If you make up that damage later building tp on a worm, who gives a ***?
You're not worth arguing with. If you wanna average less, fine, but don't give advice.
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2012-05-26 03:17:03  
Just Got Aces mail, should I use it instead of Avant +1?
And, unkai sugemino or atheling?
Ganesha or Thunder Gorget?

Please assist!!!
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-05-26 03:17:34  
Kin37ix said: »
lol. It's only black and white on your spreadsheet.
I don't use a spreadsheet.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2012-05-26 03:17:39  
Shiva.Brunwulf said: »
Well that's why I'm asking, I get mix responses. Some say DA over str, others say STR over DA.
Depends on slot, it's not a general ultimate rule to apply to every slots.

For the earings, the best combo was given earlier (Brutal/Moonshade TP bonus, no question here), as for the back, it was also given earlier (Unkai).

You can and most likely will get mixed answers in-game, especially if you ask any average joe out there but when you come to either here or BG, one thing is for certain, there is no such thing as mixed answer, if someone is wrong there will be maths and such to explain what is going on.

Like this guy with his Atheling but no Windbuffet is right now.

Though I will agree on one thing, Kemas earring should be worth a 72h ban.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-05-26 03:18:05  
Ragnarok.Evihime said: »
Just Got Aces mail, should I use it instead of Avant +1?
And, unkai sugemino or atheling?
Ganesha or Thunder Gorget?

Please assist!!!

seriously, all of this is answered in this thread. Mala and unkai if acc is capped and ace's is better i'd say, yes but look over the thread again plz :P
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By Shiva.Brunwulf 2012-05-26 03:23:14  
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Shiva.Brunwulf said: »
Well that's why I'm asking, I get mix responses. Some say DA over str, others say STR over DA.
Depends on slot, it's not a general ultimate rule to apply to every slots.

For the earings, the best combo was given earlier (Brutal/Moonshade TP bonus, no question here), as for the back, it was also given earlier (Unkai).

You can and most likely will get mixed answers in-game, especially if you ask any average joe out there but when you come to either here or BG, one thing is for certain, there is no such thing as mixed answer, if someone is wrong there will be maths and such to explain what is going on.

Like this guy with his Atheling but no Windbuffet is right now.

Though I will agree on one thing, Kemas earring should be worth a 72h ban.

^^ Who knew, all I needed do was use a Kemas earring to get some time away from game :)
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2012-05-26 03:26:05  
Im lazy to read :P
Anyways, what if I tp also in Ace's So i gtfo Hé- from bullwhip w.
Till I get Phorcys stuffs. (im on thaumas 1st)
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-05-26 03:31:36  
Ragnarok.Evihime said: »
Im lazy to read :P
Anyways, what if I tp also in Ace's So i gtfo Hé- from bullwhip w.
Till I get Phorcys stuffs. (im on thaumas 1st)

Did you really just suggest TPing in ace's body? lol
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By Sylph.Decimus 2012-05-26 03:32:46  
You want to consistently do less damage on average. We know.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2012-05-26 03:33:03  
On Kaiten trials sure, on Shoha I rather not.
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By Sylph.Decimus 2012-05-26 03:37:43  
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Did you really just suggest TPing in ace's body? lol

I believe Ace's Mail has a place in Seigan TP sets. You might use Ogier's instead and, in general, they may not necessarily be useful but people have them.

Ex:

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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2012-05-26 03:40:03  
Kin37ix said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Like this guy with his Atheling but no Windbuffet is right now.

Though I will agree on one thing, Kemas earring should be worth a 72h ban.

To be clear, I'm not saying windbuffet sux, I'm saying consistency can sometimes be better than averages, especially when were talking about as much as 97/100 weaponskills.

Example:
Kin37ix said: »
You may never see a windbuffet proc on a 6 stone vw run. Consistency just won that parse. If you make up that damage later building tp on a worm, who gives a ***?
Doesn't mean it's going to proc only 3 times out of 100 either.

I have no idea how many WSs a typical SAM unleashes during an average VW NM such as, I don't know, Qilin, but I'm pretty sure you reach over 100 on a run of 6.

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Ragnarok.Evihime said: »
Im lazy to read :P
Anyways, what if I tp also in Ace's So i gtfo Hé- from bullwhip w.
Till I get Phorcys stuffs. (im on thaumas 1st)

Did you really just suggest TPing in ace's body? lol
Be nice.

Do not use Ace's for TPing "by default", no (especially with Hasso, AF3+2 is here to stay), you can find more information on the previous pages, don't be lazy, you seem to have time and it's a beautiful morning!
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