Saber Dance Is About To Get SWEET

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Saber Dance is about to get SWEET
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 Carbuncle.Asymptotic
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-12-09 14:47:55  
Kallila's DEV Post

They're planning on adjusting Group 2 merit abilities which have reduced recast upon meriting to

1.) Have their recast fixed at the maximum upgrade potential (so Saber dance would be fixed 2:30 3:00 recast)

2.) Instead have effects increase upon further merits.

I get a strong feeling this will severely alter the way we merit our DNC.

Thoughts? :)
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By Lakshmi.Mrfrodo 2011-12-09 14:55:01  
quite possibly it might, still might be situational in use due to healing. in a group setup or sometime when someone else can heal then yep saber all the time. something else to consider, fan dance, how much more potent will that be :)
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-12-09 14:58:17  
I'm guessing for Fan Dance, each merit would raise the floor on DT-.
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By Kalima 2011-12-09 15:03:21  
So basically both saber and fan will have a 2:30 timer after the second merit and their effects increased after that. I understand that saber will probably just have a higher amount of DAs, but what about fan? If they make it where it only degrades to like 70% pdt that would be AWESOME. I would consider going back to full fan merits if they do that while tossing all my -pdt gear at the same time lol.

But back to saber. Its already a good ja but to have even more attacks at a 2:30 timer will just be insane.

Its been a very long time since I've been excited about an update so good job SE.


Edit: slow to the above posters on fd. Etc.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-12-09 15:04:34  
I would love to celebrate, but this post pretty much sums up how I think it's going down.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-12-09 15:05:38  
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
I would love to celebrate, but this post pretty much sums up how I think it's going down.

Their description of how Sange will work makes me not worry about this particularly.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-12-09 15:07:55  
There's a difference between taking something useless and making it very slightly less useless and taking the fourth most powerful offensive JA in the game and making it stronger.

Of all the JAs that are updated, ours is easily the strongest offensively in most situations. It also doesn't have a clear way to enhance it that isn't going to make it substantially stronger.

Tanaka is coming.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-12-09 15:09:57  
They could always do something like increase critical hit rate instead of more double attack, which would still be a nice bonus without being lethal.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-12-09 15:13:07  
That would still make a great offense JA even better.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-12-09 15:16:18  
The tone of their discussion of merit point adjustments is that they wanted to make merit stuff more powerful / useful.

To be honest I don't think even taking saber from 20 --> 30% double attack floor would be all that overpowered (especially considering we have to give up merits in our other awesome group 2 merits to do that)
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-12-09 15:16:30  
Last Resort > Hasso > Haste Samba > Saber Dance

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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-12-09 15:18:11  
Its funny how much hate Tanaka gets yet he basically helped make FF.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-12-09 15:18:24  
Byrth, you almost killed me. I nearly choked on a bite of pizza when I saw that.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2011-12-09 15:19:16  
It already gives a large DA upgrade. I don't see its adjustment being very major.
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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2011-12-09 15:21:51  
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Last Resort > Hasso > Haste Samba > Saber Dance

Unless you're using a two handed weapon...which would be cool either way lol
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-12-09 15:22:51  
Phoenix.Darkzeru said: »
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Last Resort > Hasso > Haste Samba > Saber Dance

Unless you're using a two handed weapon...which would be cool either way lol

I think Byrth was pointing out the best offensive JAs in the game and the order in which they fall.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-12-09 15:24:14  
Two of the JAs I put up there require merits (to make the list), so yeah I just meant overall.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-12-09 15:26:27  
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Last Resort > Hasso > Haste Samba > Saber Dance


Daggers cut deeper than swords.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2011-12-09 15:55:24  
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't 3 min the minimum recast atm? (I know this because I have 5/5 Saber Dance.)

I would love a boost to Saber Dance potency, I practically full time it for soloing dynamis DNC/THF. It is amazing, and if they are making it better all I have to say is:

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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-12-09 15:57:34  
3 mins would be correct I guess!
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By Shiva.Alistrianna 2011-12-09 16:06:54  
they could always just add triple attack procs with each upgrade! =D DO IT SE!!!!!!!!!
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By Ragnarok.Krystyl 2011-12-09 16:13:36  
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-12-09 16:28:54  
Shiva.Alistrianna said: »
triple attack procs with each upgrade!
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By Kalima 2011-12-09 16:38:16  
lol if that happens we will never hear the end of it from THFs
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-12-09 16:41:09  
Kalima said: »
lol if that happens we will never hear the end of it from THFs

Here's what I have to say about it:

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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-12-09 16:44:08  
Kalima said: »
lol if that happens we will never hear the end of it from THFs
no worries they'll give thief more TH to compensate.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-12-09 17:03:38  
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
Kalima said: »
lol if that happens we will never hear the end of it from THFs
no worries they'll give thief more TH gilfinder to compensate.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2011-12-10 03:37:28  
pretty excited about this :3
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-12-14 16:57:19  
Apparently one of the Relic +2 Augments is "Enhances Saber Dance."

I'm srsly scaredddddddd. SE wry you make me so scaredddd?
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