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 Diabolos.Raelia
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2011-11-30 17:02:33
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Jem@BG said:
Alkimi posted this on our LS forums earlier when I asked him about it. Not concrete but gives a rough idea.

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Tried the Scythe one:

DRK99/DNC49 using 133 dmg weapon.

704 Attack, 93 STR, 102 INT, no buffs and naked besides scythe

@100% TP did about 1.1k average
@300% TP did around 2k

Against mobs in Terrigan.

So what the hell is up SE's butt that they can't give us a level 99 Scythe WS that is better than our level 60 Scythe WS?
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By Asura.Arkanethered 2011-11-30 17:03:43
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Forced crit on a no crit /ws and possible DA... Nice E-peen I guess.


Not tested myself but reported to be a 2kish average on BG.
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By Asura.Arkanethered 2011-11-30 17:05:22
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Shiva.Gib said: »
Ragnarok.Nekonarf said: »
Asura.Ludoggy said: »
GraddHelian said: »
It forces you to play certain jobs and that really ruins the game for people when they cant play what they want imo.
That wasn't happening before the proc system or anything P:


Setup before Abyssea for anything serious;

PLD/NIN
PLD/NIN
BRD/WHM
WHM/SCH
WHM/SCH
RDM/WHM

SAM/WAR
SAM/WAR
RDM/WHM
BLM/RDM
BLM/RDM

COR/WHM
BLM/RDM
BLM/RDM
BLM/RDM
BLM/RDM
BLM/RDM

setup varried from NM to NM sometimes, i.e. cerb and khim you'd probably favor SMN for main damage, and in dynamis/einherjar/salvage you were still restricted mostly to what jobs you could come just so your leaders / leaders favorites could go DD jobs.
HAHAH, god, I love that, especially the part about everyone coming healing and support so leaders and their butt buddies could come DD.

old school HNM got so mind numblingly boring, I can't believe people cry about the 'Good old days' bleck


In the "good ole days" if you were not asked to bring a DD, your DD probably was not worth ***bringing.
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By Lakshmi.Konvict 2011-11-30 17:07:49
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Seriously SE? Could you possibly make the game any easier?......
 Diabolos.Raelia
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2011-11-30 17:07:52
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Asura.Arkanethered said: »
In the "good ole days" if you were not asked to bring a DD, your DD probably was not worth ***bringing.
And then the leader shows up on his Domaru SAM.
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By Asura.Arkanethered 2011-11-30 17:12:51
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Perk of actually making a LS and dealing with scrubs...

The butthurts whining about it should have left. I stand by my statement. But this detracts from the fact that Drk got another mildly useless /ws... Good going SE
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By Phoenix.Urteil 2011-11-30 17:36:01
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Doesn't even aspir MP just recovers?

For *** real?

Wow.


Since when has SE given DRK spells that are worth using in a situation where I won't have refresh II? Why even make this WS? MP drain, for *** sake it could have at least inflicted a strong debuff or atrribute-down.


They don't even play their game.
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By Sylph.Cossack 2011-11-30 17:38:04
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Here's hoping it doesn't completely suck. We all know the new scythe will.
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2011-11-30 17:48:09
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Sylph.Cossack said: »
Here's hoping it doesn't completely suck. We all know the new scythe will.
*Cough*
Jem@BG said:
Alkimi posted this on our LS forums earlier when I asked him about it. Not concrete but gives a rough idea.

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Tried the Scythe one:

DRK99/DNC49 using 133 dmg weapon.

704 Attack, 93 STR, 102 INT, no buffs and naked besides scythe

@100% TP did about 1.1k average
@300% TP did around 2k

Against mobs in Terrigan.

Insurgency 2.0 with MP recovery. Guillo should do 1.8k+ on those same mobs just for reference.
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By Fenrir.Kendraian 2011-11-30 17:55:16
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Yup Scythe WS sucks now i had first hand its maybe a little better than Guillotine but since its mods are INT Guillotine probably will remain the best non emphy/mythic/relic scythe ws :/

Now on that not Great Sword weaponskill seems to be slightly weaker than the Torcleave with the exception that a Soul Eater Resolution Full HP in abyssea did result in a 6k Resolution sadly i didnt take a picture T_T but i will do it again!

Edit#1: I refuse to redo macros but i do have pics of the dmg with my haste set on the test server
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-11-30 17:58:03
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Fenrir.Kendraian said: »
Yup Scythe WS sucks now i had first hand its maybe a little better than Guillotine but since its mods are INT Guillotine probably will remain the best non emphy/mythic/relic scythe ws :/

Now on that not Great Sword weaponskill seems to be slightly weaker than the Torcleave with the exception that a Soul Eater Resolution Full HP in abyssea did result in a 6k Resolution sadly i didnt take a picture T_T but i will do it again!


I believe you man, if 3k is possible with Sickle Moon with the same buffs Resolution should break 6k. What are the mods/ftp though? Torcleaver isn't so great on high defense mobs (= out to spinning slash at times 1200ish) is Resolution a strong multihit ws like say King's Justice was?
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By Fenrir.Kendraian 2011-11-30 17:58:46
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How the hell do i put up pictures so i cna show ya the dmg?
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-11-30 17:59:41
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Fenrir.Kendraian said: »
How the hell do I put up pictures so I can show you the damage?

Upload on ImageShack.com, then copy the picture "url" and put it in "img" tags.
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2011-11-30 18:02:41
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Fenrir.Skarwind said: »
Fenrir.Kendraian said: »
How the hell do I put up pictures so I can show you the damage?

Upload on ImageShack.com, then copy the picture "url" and put it in "img" tags.
Imageshack is a bunch of *** now. use Tinypic.
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By Fenrir.Kendraian 2011-11-30 18:05:45
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Slightly better than Guillotine still not amazing ill take some GS pics and then post em brb
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By Fenrir.Kendraian 2011-11-30 18:11:32
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Note that i forget to give credit to Guillotine as it is possible to far exceed 2k dmg... Maybe SE wants DRK to use Souleater more often /hmm
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-11-30 18:43:35
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Really need to specify how many merits you put into it... Alkimi's tests look like 1/5, 5/5 should be more on par with Catastrophe (better than Guillo but not by much).
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By Fenrir.Kendraian 2011-11-30 18:45:12
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5/5 on GS SCY and Swrd
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2011-11-30 19:48:58
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Mithra gets the best Entropy animation (Stardiver stripper pole spin is even better XD ). Too bad I'll probably never use it unless it gets a drastic change. Welcome me finally to the Great Sword camp.
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By Phoenix.Urteil 2011-11-30 19:57:34
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Hume M DRK animations are best!
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By Ragnarok.Returner 2011-11-30 19:59:41
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I like mithra's GS one the best, I wish human jump at the end.
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By Phoenix.Urteil 2011-12-01 04:57:14
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Ragnarok.Returner said: »
I like mithra's GS one the best, I wish human jump at the end.

Jumping is inefficient!
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-12-01 05:00:19
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Fenrir.Kendraian said: »
Note that i forget to give credit to Guillotine as it is possible to far exceed 2k dmg... Maybe SE wants DRK to use Souleater more often /hmm

Soul Eater on mobs that resist that ja?
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2011-12-01 05:04:38
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Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Fenrir.Kendraian said: »
Note that i forget to give credit to Guillotine as it is possible to far exceed 2k dmg... Maybe SE wants DRK to use Souleater more often /hmm

Soul Eater on mobs that resist that ja?
Super rare and they only start resisting after about 2k damage, so you usually don't even see it.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-12-01 05:07:40
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Diabolos.Raelia said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Fenrir.Kendraian said: »
Note that i forget to give credit to Guillotine as it is possible to far exceed 2k dmg... Maybe SE wants DRK to use Souleater more often /hmm

Soul Eater on mobs that resist that ja?
Super rare and they only start resisting after about 2k damage, so you usually don't even see it.
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By volkom 2011-12-01 11:51:13
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is resolution any good?
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By Bismarck.Selzak 2011-12-01 12:03:32
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Lakshmi.Phaffi said: »
did on war with ukko's gear with Mighty Strikes.
So does this mean that DRK has a RR WS now?
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By Siren.Kyte 2011-12-01 12:05:23
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Why would you think that.
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By volkom 2011-12-01 12:11:09
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lol wow...big number
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-12-01 12:12:39
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It only crit because of Mighty Strikes. It's noncrit
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