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 Asura.Arkanethered
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By Asura.Arkanethered 2011-11-29 13:29:39  
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
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Everyone whined so much about multi-hit critical /ws that every weapon now gets one!

problem?

Not at all, gloriousness for all!
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By Shiva.Gib 2011-11-29 13:29:52  
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in all honesty I thought DRK was gonna become bandwagon with the Last Resort enhancement.
DRK will never be bandwagon in the way that WAR/SAM/MNK/NIN have been unless they fix the fundamental disparity between job and game design.

Also, DRK will never be bandwagon because it does less than 4k dmg on avarage inside abyssea.
yeah, everyone crys about DRK abyssea damage, like doing 3k Tors. Everyone forgets when you go outside you're STILL doing 3k Tors, and those Nins are doing 800 Blade Hi's :P

Oh yeah not to mention doing Crit Hit's for like 800-1200 Outside of abyssea with Aftermath on, I hate how quickly people disregard DRK <_<
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By Fenrir.Kendraian 2011-11-29 13:31:34  
Shiva.Gib said: »
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Shiva.Gib said: »
in all honesty I thought DRK was gonna become bandwagon with the Last Resort enhancement.
DRK will never be bandwagon in the way that WAR/SAM/MNK/NIN have been unless they fix the fundamental disparity between job and game design.

Also, DRK will never be bandwagon because it does less than 4k dmg on avarage inside abyssea.
yeah, everyone crys about DRK abyssea damage, like doing 3k Tors. Everyone forgets when you go outside you're STILL doing 3k Tors, and those Nins are doing 800 Blade Hi's :P

*oh yeah not to mention doing Crit Hit's for like 800-1200 Outside of abyssea with Aftermath on*
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-11-29 13:35:01  
5...hit....Great Sword WS!?



Let's hope the Scythe WS is crittable and has a neutral damage effect >_> That would make Twilight Scythe an OP Non-Relic/Mythic/Empyrean Scythe!

Asura.Kaisuko said: »
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Shiva.Gib said: »
in all honesty I thought DRK was gonna become bandwagon with the Last Resort enhancement.
DRK will never be bandwagon in the way that WAR/SAM/MNK/NIN have been unless they fix the fundamental disparity between job and game design.

Also, DRK will never be bandwagon because it does less than 4k dmg on avarage inside abyssea.
And you can't forget you have to be an emo. :D
But...Emos are for noobs! Get those crybabies off my Batman-minus-no-kill-rule Job! D:<
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-11-29 13:35:46  
Shiva.Gib said: »
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Shiva.Gib said: »
in all honesty I thought DRK was gonna become bandwagon with the Last Resort enhancement.
DRK will never be bandwagon in the way that WAR/SAM/MNK/NIN have been unless they fix the fundamental disparity between job and game design.

Also, DRK will never be bandwagon because it does less than 4k dmg on avarage inside abyssea.
yeah, everyone crys about DRK abyssea damage, like doing 3k Tors. Everyone forgets when you go outside you're STILL doing 3k Tors, and those Nins are doing 800 Blade Hi's :P

Oh yeah not to mention doing Crit Hit's for like 800-1200 Outside of abyssea with Aftermath on, I hate how quickly people disregard DRK <_<
I never said anything about Abyssea. My statement stands both inside and out.
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By Asura.Arkanethered 2011-11-29 13:39:51  
So. Assuming this is crit... What is the best TOM GS for it?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-11-29 13:42:04  
Asura.Arkanethered said: »
So. Assuming this is crit... What is the best TOM GS for it?
Without actually looking at stats, I'd guess OAT.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-11-29 13:42:08  
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So. Assuming this is crit... What is the best TOM GS for it?
Still Caladbolg! xD
 
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By Shiva.Gib 2011-11-29 13:44:02  
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
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So. Assuming this is crit... What is the best TOM GS for it?
Still Caladbolg! xD
Caladbolg with Double attack Build :D
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By Fenrir.Kendraian 2011-11-29 13:45:23  
Seems like DRK is making other DD's sweat bullets! Dnt screw up SE DRK has needed this!
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By Phoenix.Urteil 2011-11-29 13:45:26  
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Lol doubt it. I can just see the god awful ideas people come up for with macros.

Catastrophe looks like ***.

lolwut?

Slice looks like ***.

Catastrophe looks like ***.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-11-29 13:48:43  
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lolwhut?
You bring less procs (barring MNK in Voidwatch if you have a PUP), less damage (than WAR/SAM/MNK), and less overall utility (barring Apoc) to the table than any of those jobs. Most spells are not worth capping. Your sky-high attack can be mimicked by WAR, MNK, and SAM, plus most current content is either old (easy to cap cRatio) or throws temps at you that include substantial attack buffs (again, capped cRatio is well within reach). NIN's attack is lower but Innin is extremely underrated and very exploitable in group content. Your other notable buff, Desperate Blows, is reduced in value with proper support. Most spells are simply not worth casting, hence the disparity between job and game design. Your gear options are relatively restrictive, especially when trying to maximize both haste and accuracy.

There's a reason I'm not bringing my DRK to anything until I finish Apoc: it takes a weapon of that caliber to even get it within the same playing field as other jobs.
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By Asura.Domz 2011-11-29 13:53:24  
damn, was hoping for Deca-strike for clubs. whm onry of course, least the staff looks cool! melee whm ftw
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By Shiva.Gib 2011-11-29 13:53:31  
Abosrb-TP says hi
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
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lolwhut?
You bring less procs (barring MNK in Voidwatch if you have a PUP), less damage (than WAR/SAM/MNK), and less overall utility (barring Apoc) to the table than any of those jobs. Most spells are not worth capping. Your sky-high attack can be mimicked by WAR, MNK, and SAM, plus most current content is either old (easy to cap cRatio) or throws temps at you that include substantial attack buffs (again, capped cRatio is well within reach). NIN's attack is lower but Innin is extremely underrated and very exploitable in group content. Your other notable buff, Desperate Blows, is reduced in value with proper support. Most spells are simply not worth casting, hence the disparity between job and game design.

There's a reason I'm not bringing my DRK to anything until I finish Apoc: it takes a weapon of that caliber to even get it within the same playing field as other jobs.
Go troll go! :D

DRK can do high end procs on Club, Scythe, GS, Sword, Axe and Great Axe. Also Absorb-TP is a good spell :P

you go enjoy your blade:lulz
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-11-29 14:01:45  
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Abosrb-TP says hi
Go troll go! :D

DRK can do high end procs on Club, Scythe, GS, Sword, Axe and Great Axe. Also Absorb-TP is a good spell :P

you go enjoy your blade:lulz
It's like you didn't even read my post.
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By Bahamut.Feisei 2011-11-29 14:06:18  
MITHRA FLIP!?! ***. SO. MUCH. WANT. CANT. DESCRIBE.
ELVAAN THROW BOW!? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKK AAWWWWWWEEEESSSSOMMMME
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-11-29 14:07:48  
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Profanity filter.
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By Shiva.Gib 2011-11-29 14:08:11  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Shiva.Gib said: »
Abosrb-TP says hi
Go troll go! :D

DRK can do high end procs on Club, Scythe, GS, Sword, Axe and Great Axe. Also Absorb-TP is a good spell :P

you go enjoy your blade:lulz
It's like you didn't even read my post.

all I read was 'Hey guys, you're all excited about DRK's new WS? DRK is still crap! NIN is better! you mad bros?'
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-11-29 14:08:54  
Gib, maybe you should re-read his post instead of instigating.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2011-11-29 14:10:21  
Shiva.Gib said: »
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Shiva.Gib said: »
in all honesty I thought DRK was gonna become bandwagon with the Last Resort enhancement.
DRK will never be bandwagon in the way that WAR/SAM/MNK/NIN have been unless they fix the fundamental disparity between job and game design.

Also, DRK will never be bandwagon because it does less than 4k dmg on avarage inside abyssea.
yeah, everyone crys about DRK abyssea damage, like doing 3k Tors. Everyone forgets when you go outside you're STILL doing 3k Tors, and those Nins are doing 800 Blade Hi's :P

Oh yeah not to mention doing Crit Hit's for like 800-1200 Outside of abyssea with Aftermath on, I hate how quickly people disregard DRK <_<

How did anyone miss this. Oh you're not averaging 3k Tors outside either.
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By Shiva.Gib 2011-11-29 14:12:13  
Ramuh.Krizz said: »
Gib, maybe you should re-read his post instead of instigating.
yeah I read it, I read troll bait basically saying unless you have a 95 relic DRK is unless. k?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2011-11-29 14:13:31  
Unless you have relic or terrible support Drk is mostly useless, yes.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-11-29 14:14:17  
You drk people are weird.
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2011-11-29 14:14:20  
Shiva.Gib said: »
Ramuh.Krizz said: »
Gib, maybe you should re-read his post instead of instigating.
yeah I read it, I read troll bait basically saying unless you have a 95 relic DRK is unless. k?
You use the word troll a lot. I don't think you understand what it means. Perhaps you should step away from the thread for a bit.
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By volkom 2011-11-29 14:16:34  
a troll is obviously the thing living underneath the bridge. Wonder if they get wi-fi down there.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-11-29 14:16:39  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Shiva.Gib said: »
lolwhut?
You bring less procs (barring MNK in Voidwatch if you have a PUP), less damage (than WAR/SAM/MNK), and less overall utility (barring Apoc) to the table than any of those jobs. Most spells are not worth capping. Your sky-high attack can be mimicked by WAR, MNK, and SAM, plus most current content is either old (easy to cap cRatio) or throws temps at you that include substantial attack buffs (again, capped cRatio is well within reach). NIN's attack is lower but Innin is extremely underrated and very exploitable in group content. Your other notable buff, Desperate Blows, is reduced in value with proper support. Most spells are simply not worth casting, hence the disparity between job and game design. Your gear options are relatively restrictive, especially when trying to maximize both haste and accuracy. There's a reason I'm not bringing my DRK to anything until I finish Apoc: it takes a weapon of that caliber to even get it within the same playing field as other jobs.

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By GraddHelian 2011-11-29 14:16:40  
I'd say anyone even mentioning using any spells Absorb-TP included would be the one that doesnt understand DRK.

90% of the time its an utterly useless spell and you are better off just swinging and Weaponskilling, especially when you are fully buffed with Haste and Marches.

With that said, I watched that video like 5 times in a row WS looks bad ***, almost makes me regret uninstalling the game :O
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