[Dev] Four New Weapon Skills Revealed

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 Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-11-28 14:42:13  
It's all in the Rukia avatar.
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By volkom 2011-11-28 14:42:35  
bleach avatars ftw
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By Bahamut.Zellc 2011-11-28 14:45:38  
Lakshmi.Konvict said: »
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volkom said: »
i want a epic greatsword ws plz
Torcleaver says Hi
Ragnarok says hi2u

Ragnarok isnt a gs ws? lol i joke, im sure everyone understands what u mean.
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By Cerberus.Sevvy 2011-11-28 14:45:52  
Will be interesting to see the other weapon skills they have planned. I thought the update would be this month but I have a shrewd guess itll be postoned til January.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-11-28 14:53:27  
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oh Kalilla, you always lighten up my day with translated news
News you can read is always better lol
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2011-11-28 14:59:30  
Siren.Kalilla said: »
volkom said: »
oh Kalilla, you always lighten up my day with translated news
News you can read is always better lol


News you can read is in fact better. But news u can understand is even better.

like wth is this? D:

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By Ragnarok.Xenophire 2011-11-28 15:05:44  
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
As a Chinese major (with some experience in chinese philosophy), I have to say no, it doesn't. I've never encountered anything with yin and yang having to do with good and evil, and hope and despair. I'm pretty sure that's a western interpretation from translations of texts dealing with yin and yang :<
My bad. <_<
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-11-28 15:16:05  
Will these even be used? I am thinking they have some nice additional effect to make them have some use.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-11-28 15:17:18  
Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
volkom said: »
oh Kalilla, you always lighten up my day with translated news
News you can read is always better lol


News you can read is in fact better. But news u can understand is even better.

like wth is this? D:

lol, yea when I made the post google chrome wanted to translate the whole page >.>;
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2011-11-28 15:18:07  
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Will these even be used? I am thinking they have some nice additional effect to make them have some use.

i'm thinking/hoping they will be the best non-emp/relic ws for sam drk rng, dagger ws not so much.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Generic 2011-11-28 15:19:39  
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Will these even be used? I am thinking they have some nice additional effect to make them have some use.
ofc. se will incorperate them as a proc^^
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-11-28 15:19:48  
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Will these even be used? I am thinking they have some nice additional effect to make them have some use.

i'm thinking/hoping they will be the best non-emp/relic ws for sam drk rng, dagger ws not so much.

Will likely be an imbalanced mixture of useful and ***as usual. At least they look pretty.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2011-11-28 15:29:57  
Nobody here actually uses Ageha for the def-? I do, and I have Masamune... lol
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2011-11-28 15:32:09  
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Nobody here actually uses Ageha for the def-? I do, and I have Masamune... lol

u play sam? :O
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By Odin.Eikechi 2011-11-28 15:32:50  
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Nobody here actually uses Ageha for the def-? I do, and I have Masamune... lol

u play sam? :O

I've played sam since I first got a job to 30, and I started one month after NA release lol
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By Bismarck.Veruna 2011-11-28 15:41:10  
Cool story.


Anywho, new dagger WS -looks- fun.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2011-11-28 15:47:02  
fun and useful are 2 different things. i doubt it can replace evis... looks like a 2 hit ws. like a dagger savage blade
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2011-11-28 15:53:19  
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Nobody here actually uses Ageha for the def-? I do, and I have Masamune... lol

Against what? I highly doubt its a worthwhile sacrifice in any situation. You serve to lose far too much, and those around you serve to gain very little.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2011-11-28 15:55:21  
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Nobody here actually uses Ageha for the def-? I do, and I have Masamune... lol

Against what? I highly doubt its a worthwhile sacrifice in any situation. You serve to lose far too much, and those around you serve to gain very little.

i dont see how thats true. i thought it was a -30% def down? sounds like sacrificing 2k dmg in 1 ws for added dmg over the next 3 mins is worth it. but idk what the actual def down is... or if its overwritten by other spells.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2011-11-28 15:55:54  
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Nobody here actually uses Ageha for the def-? I do, and I have Masamune... lol

Against what? I highly doubt its a worthwhile sacrifice in any situation. You serve to lose far too much, and those around you serve to gain very little.

I mostly *** around with it, for fun, but I see it serving the same purpose as a starting Angon if you don't have a drg... What's so bad about that for 1 WS on a job that gets TP like no other...
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-11-28 16:01:44  
27% DEF down for for two~three minutes for your alliance vs. losing one Tachi: Fudo. I know you don't truly believe that that is not worth it.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2011-11-28 16:03:22  
I'm not in a position to say there's anything definitively wrong with using it, but given the nature of SAM-friendly content(voidwatch), I don't see it as much of a benefit in the long run. You'll have a limited number of melee on anything at any given time, diminishing its return. Everyone meleeing will be in a mostly perpetual state of relatively high attack, diminishing its return. A large portion of your time spent actually dealing damage is in small spurts, at which point the amount sacrificed becomes proportionally more substantial.

And SAM's TP accumulation has no baring on whether or not its worthwhile. Opportunity cost doesn't work that way.

Like I said, I'm only hypothesizing. I have no actual data to support this, its just an assumption based on observation.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-11-28 16:09:03  
Unless their attack is capped, the returns of defense down are not diminished enough to warrant mentioning. The duration on the defense down is worth more than one blitz, and if lights are capped will be worth the rest of the fight. Giving up about 1000~1500 damage (ageha isn't that bad damage wise. on Kaggen, one of my test subjects for nailing down ageha's land rate and DEF down, it was doing 500-600) to give the monster a substantial defense decrease is a positive.
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