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COR vs BRD in Meripo.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-02-22 12:26:30
I'd put more dex into it.
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By Asura.Barthalomew 2010-02-22 12:26:39
and BTW the highest drakesbane I've hit is 3040. I have a SS of that too. so yeah.. My "average" is in the 2k mark. Yes, sometimes I hit 1.6 or 1.8 but MOST of them hit for 2k+
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By Asura.Barthalomew 2010-02-22 12:27:08
Bismarck.Dracondria said: I'd put more dex into it.
And that is why most DRG's fail
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By Garuda.Wooooodum 2010-02-22 12:28:57
Fairy.Vegetto said: You don't average 2.2k-2.5k. Not even close. Wouldn't be a believable average if you were sugging war and riding bersrek yet alone w/ /sam.
Will you be able to hit those numbers? Definitely. Will you average them? No. Stop lying to yourself, stop lying to us. Maybe someone who hasn't played XI before will believe those numbers.
Those same numbers, I can hit them on sam just as well, but am I going to average them on either job? Hell no. If you honestly believe you're averaging 2.2k then you need to get glasses, because you can't read.
RNG can though!
Too bad our DoT / TP gain without a Kraken sucks to do it regularly enough.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-02-22 12:29:11
Asura.Barthalomew said: Bismarck.Dracondria said: I'd put more dex into it.
And that is why most DRG's fail Depending on the target he's right, you need more DEX. I don't think you're going to be pushing a high enough dDEX on even birds to make it worthwhile without NHead and Cuchulain's Mantle though...
EDIT: And for the love of god re-augment your Galea to STR/WSDMG until/if you get NHead.
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By Caitsith.Alriath 2010-02-22 12:32:23
Asura.Barthalomew said:
Fay lance has (DMG: 5 STR 3 DEX 2) Champions Galea has STR 6 wsacc 15 Haste 2) STR 5/5 Merits, polearm 8/8
Lol bart, I can't see you comparing anything to YOUR sam because its so trash. Sam/war > Drg/DD.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-22 12:32:27
Quote: and BTW the highest drakesbane I've hit is 3040. I have a SS of that too. so yeah.. My "average" is in the 2k mark. Yes, sometimes I hit 1.6 or 1.8 but MOST of them hit for 2k+ You don't average 2k in that piss poor build. You're not coming close to capping crit. You're fall off. You're talking out of your acc. I'm willing to guarantee your average isn't even 1.5k in that build.
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By Asura.Barthalomew 2010-02-22 12:34:13
lol.. when I see another drg out-parse me in a meripo... I'll add more DEX.. BTW that *** mantle is 5 mil on Asura.. and It's never on the AH. No way I'm spending 5 mil on a back piece.
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By Asura.Barthalomew 2010-02-22 12:35:05
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-22 12:35:17
If you want to find a drg who can outparse you, just make a party and be sure to actually invite a 2nd drg. If you can manage to pull that off, mission accomplished.
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By Asura.Barthalomew 2010-02-22 12:36:23
Fairy.Vegetto said: Quote: and BTW the highest drakesbane I've hit is 3040. I have a SS of that too. so yeah.. My "average" is in the 2k mark. Yes, sometimes I hit 1.6 or 1.8 but MOST of them hit for 2k You don't average 2k in that piss poor build. You're not coming close to capping crit. You're fall off. You're talking out of your acc. I'm willing to guarantee your average isn't even 1.5k in that build.
Can't argue with ignorance I guess...
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-02-22 12:36:34
Asura.Barthalomew said: lol.. when I see another drg out-parse me in a meripo... I'll add more DEX.. BTW that *** mantle is 5 mil on Asura.. and It's never on the AH. No way I'm spending 5 mil on a back piece. You merit with mediocre DRGs, cool. Even a decent one should be outparsing you just from having a better headpiece.
EDIT: LOL Vegetto getting called ignorant? This could be fun.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-22 12:36:39
Also, since you mention parse, I would like to see some. Let's see some of these parses. To get ridiculous averages like you're claiming with the ***gear you have, I thought you had to have been eyeballing, but if you have parses, go ahead and post them.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-22 12:38:07
Lol just messaged my buddy about some retard talking about 2k averages on drakes and he didn't even come to this thread and said "is it Barthalomew" and when I said "yup" he said "Yea, that's the drg i told you about a long time ago that got outdamaged by a nin at colibri pt.
LMFAO
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By Asura.Barthalomew 2010-02-22 12:42:33
Well, I don't have ss's of the parser, But I would be more than willing to get some. Terminus could vouch for me because he was typically the other DRG in the party with me.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-22 12:43:52
Wow a drg that you could outparse in the same party as you. Must have been like 15k/hr brah.
Go get some parses, this will be funny.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-02-22 12:45:32
Asura.Barthalomew said: Well, I don't have ss's of the parser, But I would be more than willing to get some. Terminus could vouch for me because he was typically the other DRG in the party with me. Terminus' current gear on his profile is a BLU/DNC wearing Homam Zucchetto, Soil Gorget, and Bibiki Seashell. Even accounting for the LSCommunity website grabbing gear at odd times, none of those should be worn simultaneously and only rarely in sequence. You're not helping your case here.
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By Asura.Barthalomew 2010-02-22 12:47:31
Yeah.. check his price history douche.. He quit/sold his account back in January.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-02-22 12:48:43
Asura.Barthalomew said: Yeah.. check his price history douche.. He quit/sold his account back in January. Doesn't change the fact that his gearing at initial appearances is questionable, and that doesn't help your case either. I'll acknowledge he may well gear and play better than that suggests, but you're still talking out your *** with respect to your WS damage.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-22 12:57:38
Even in my dex build, I only have 5 less str than Barth's set, where as I have capped crit rate, and more attack. No way in hell that 5 str is making him average 500+ more than I do with his next to non existent crit rate.
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By Asura.Barthalomew 2010-02-22 12:58:29
post it
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-22 13:09:35
Valk Fork/Sword Strap/empty/Black Tathlum
Heca/Love Torque/Brutal/Minuet earring
Aurum/Heca/Thunder/Flame
Cuch/Warwolf/Ares'/Heca
Str: +11(heca), +1 (minuet), +8 (aurum), +7(heca),+5(Rajas),+4(cuch),+5(warwolf)/+6(Ares)/+6(Heca)
+53 (You have 58)
Dex: +1(Tathlum),+5(Heca),+5(Love torque),+1(Minuet),+8(Aurum),+4(Heca),+5(Thunder),+5(Rajas),+4(cuch),+5(warwolf),+6(Ares')/+3(Heca)
+52 (you have like 29 or something). 52 + base 65 = 117, crit cap for colibri
Attack:
+4(black tathlum),+7(Love torque),+15(aurum)
+26 (You have +11)
DA: +3(Vfork),+2(ares'),+5(brutal)
+10 DA (you have +7)
My dex build has 5 less str than your str build, caps crit rate, has more attack, and more DA. No way your average crushes mine, (or even matches it for that sake), especially by a 500 dmg margin
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-22 13:12:38
And keep in mind that's my DEX BUILD. I have a STR build for mobs that I don't feel I can come close enough to capping crit for DEX to matter.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-02-22 13:21:46
Mind posting that one too?
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-22 13:22:56
Swap ear2 to bushi, swap back to forager, swap thunder to flame ring, swap love torque to justice torque (if acc capped)
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By Asura.Barthalomew 2010-02-22 13:30:18
I don't understand. Why not WS in zahak's and use a pole grip?
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By Asura.Barthalomew 2010-02-22 13:30:57
and light gorget > love torque come on man.. everyone knows this
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-02-22 13:34:05
Because you get dex for crit and more accuracy from love torque and Aurum for 6hit.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-02-22 13:36:15
Aurum > Zahak's if you're crit capped with both (or uncapped with both) and he probably needs it due to Sword Strap. I forget the exact math on Sword versus Pole with VFork, it was close... I think Sword won but the loss of damage on Jumps due to requiring Aurum body might have done it in. Basically a moot point for those of us without Ares' Cuirass though. Love Torque is better than Flame/Light if it caps your dDEX.
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-02-22 13:36:55
Vegetto: 1 Barthalomew: 0
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I leveled COR when it first came out for the simple reason, fast merit invites yet can get by without having to pull. Recently for the last week or so every invite i have had is COR + BRD and yet the pt wants me to pull. With the delay of my gun, plus timers on Light Shot and losing the DD power of Slugshot, i dont understand why COR makes a better puller over BRD, any ideas?
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