Solution To The Ps2 Limitation Hard Drive Issue

Someone in here talkin about clamps?!

People who still play on Ps2.. Get a job:3

What I said offended you? I thought for sure you were made of sterner stuff than that. Weak.

When talking about the PS2 and its obsolete-ness, I'm referring to the hardware of the device and what that hardware allows and can not allow ... not the freakin' narrative of the games that were introduced during the times when the hardware was new/relevant.

What the hell happened to your pristine analysis and logic, Jetackuu? Off your meds this weekend perhaps?

I admit I don't know a ton about game programming, etc.
However, if the so-called "PS2 limitations" are preventing S-E from doing things like adding inventory spaces, increasing number of AH slots per character, and adding terms to the Auto-translator function ... then hell yes, ditch that PS2 support, and the sooner, the better.

I have no grandiose false expectations of a "new and improved" engine and graphics for FFXI if PS2 was dropped from FFXI. But you're wrong when you claim that dropping PS2 support "would do nothing".

If I'm a tool, you're a fool. Now take your meds, before you drool. And don't come back swingin', until you get mo' school.

Your attempt to claim that games do not have stories.

You have no idea of what the hardware of the PS2 does, don't talk about it. The hardware is still relevant as games are still being produced for it.

They aren't, you don't know anything. It has nothing to do with the "ps2 support".

Again you know nothing and understand nothing about programming or digital electronics so move along.

what does having or not having a job have anything to do with this?

Valid question.

Preaching to the choir, but I 'think' he was implying that if you are playing on a PS2 it's because you can't afford a current gen console, nor a decent computation machine.

Note: By I 'think', I meant he was and I am just stating how far fetched that conclusion is. Correlation=/=Causation, etc etc.

Just ask the military.

Chill.

To whom was that warning poised, might I ask?

or you could stop playing on a 11 year old system?

or get a PC, hell go here
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=1429131&sku=B69-0464&SRCCODE=WEM2864IM&cm_mmc=email-_-Main-_-WEM2864-_-tigeremail2864
buy that, and buy a 40 dollar video card, and boom, you're good to go.

and it's actually a pretty decent computer setup, so you could use it for many many other things too.

the PS2 is discontinued and the PS2 that holds a HDD has been discontinued for like 5-6 years now. I know change is scary, but move on yo'

I love these PS2 discussion threads. It always kills time for me while I wait for my next class. We need more of them.

The thread.

We get it. lolPS2, etc.

There are enough threads about that. If you don't have anything to say about the OP, move along. No need to derail every single thread that even mentions PS2 in it.

will no one think of the Dreamcast? It was the greatest console ever! ; ;

It is comical.

It's like the PS2 has evolved into some iconic divisive polarizing entity.

I don't think a lot of people even really care about what exactly the PS2 is and does anymore ... they just use it or see it as an avenue to pursue an argument.

Like religion and atheism, or Democrats and Republicans, or who's better: Larry Bird or Magic Johnson?

"I LOVE my PS2!"
"PS2 is old, man."
"They still make games for it in Japan though!"
"They stopped selling the games here in retail stores here in the States."
"Final Fantasy VII forever is the bestest ever ever! I can't wait for the remake!"
"You can buy a used PS2 on Ebay for $5."
"But the Japanese still love PS2, and I love anime, so I also love my PS2!"
"PS2 is holding back progress in FFXI development."
"No it isn't."
"Yeah it is."
"Your mom is fat."

Again, I will say this. If SE could make money off of elimanating PS2 support they would. It would have to be a significant amount of money as well. As it stands The money, time, and effort that they would have to put into this is not worth it. Plus it would alienate part of their member base on a very old game putting question of continued membership into question. I don't know the numbers but I'd bet that they would lose money off a venture like this or that it would just take up too much time and resources to make it worth it for them. I'd say that they are still hoping to capitalize on FFIX when they "hopefully" work the kinks out on that. It's also not a time where the company is going to take a lot of risks interrupting a steady revenue stream either.

Unless you can get membership wayyyyyyyyyyy up and form some kind of coalition to petition that SE submit to your demands and make it profitable for them then sit back, relax and get used to things remaining as they are lol.

They still sell PS2 games and systems (slims) in the states.

@Elana
As long as PS3 is unable to emulate PS2 games(current PS3 releases can't, the first release could). The PS2 hardware will be relevant in today's world.

If we get to a point where PS2 hardware can be properly emulated on PC, then that also may obsolete the PS2 hardware.

Until then, the hardware is required if you ever want to experience a PS2 game.

So the point is, if the OP can get around the 10gig per game limit by "fake releasing an expansion of FFXI-2 as a new game" to allow it to access a new partition, then by all means.

They are saying they will only be carrying them till the the end of the year... but they still have PS1 games up here so I doubt it.

I don't think Elana was saying any of these things about the PS2, just showing the humor that comes from these arguments.

I find it pretty humurous myself.

Correct Nevill!

And you do the exact same thing.

Solution to the PS2 limitation, stop support for the PS2 and the limit is gone :)

/sigh

ftfy :3

Honestly though there would be no point in reworking the whole game now...


somethingsomethingsomethingdying...

even if they did drop console support it would only enable so much, an engine remake similar to the op suggested would be the only way.

Indeed it is what XIV should have been and SE could actually be charging for it instead of having a free game...

TBH I wish they'd just make the games free already and have additional content paid for, it's a system that works for numerous other games, why SE insists on clinging to an old style of mmo we won't know.

edit: that being said: console support and being a cross-platform game was XI's selling point really... so take that with what you will.

Sorry, I should have just quoted his post. I was referring to his earlier post at 8:30, which used the word "relevant"(which I also used in my post). I thought that it would be obvious what I was trying to refute, but since not here's what my post was in reply to:

I highly doubt that the MAJORITY of PS2 players do not own either an Xbox, PC (that can handle FFXI... lol), or possibly an older PS3. 90% if not more of current PS2 players would not be "lost" due to dropped PS2 support; SE could give current PS2 players a free key to install on PC/Xbox and voila, done. It's not like the initial price of the game is a big deal, since they make their money via monthly subscriptions.

2¢.

Its a consistent revenue stream. Also, they don't have to spend any time first working out the new system they would put into place, deciding if it would be financially worth it, and then removing the old system and implementing the new one.