Solution To The Ps2 Limitation Hard Drive Issue

Can't people stay on topic? This wasn't a *** post about PS2 limitations, what's wrong with ps2, or how dropping ps2 would fix the game(It wouldn't). The game is partitioned, we can't fix that. What this guy made this post about was doing the expansion as a separate game to make a new partition for it. I.E. if the new expansion was named "Mars attacks", and you wanted to go to its areas and do its events, you'd have to log out, load THAT separate game, and log in it. To go back to CoP, zilart, ToAU, or WotG, you'd have to log out again, load up the original ffxi and log into it. My opinion is that it's a pretty bad idea, and would require a 'mutual' area for both games where you would HAVE to log in order to log into the other one, not to mention all the gear and new items obtainable in new version would have to be added to old version, just not the zones, but that's still a lot of updates and space after a few updates of new gear/items. Not a great solution IMO~

I know that FFXIV has it's bugs and whatnot but why do people keep doggin' it? I'm sure it's because they can't play it and have an lolPC. It's really not a bad game and its potential is almost limitless. FFXIV is pretty snazzy and quite frankly if it was exactly like XI only "prettier" then I wouldn't of played it.

People just don't want to accept the fact that XI is a dying game (has been for a long time now) and refuse to move on. FFXIV is the future poeple! Doesn't matter how much you hate it!

You're talking to people who have been playing XI for years and years and years. People, in general, do not like change, and that's a big one for us. It's different and we're not used to it, hence we don't like it as much as what we're comfy with. Also there were a few other issues, such as playability and lack of functions that made XI better. You're right, you can't have an lolPC to play this on, but my wife plays on an $8000 alienware and it even couldn't run XIV at first. We actually got it orignally running on our cheaper spare laptop easier. XIV just has bugs SE needs to work out, and when they shut down XI, if they do, people will go to XIV and enjoy it just fine.

Only if 2.O is as good as it looks on the tin. Right now? No lol... definitely not.

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Burn It! quick being cheap and f'kn upgrade your system already!! i mean... like its 2011... wtf >.>;
its like me having an atari back in 1998 complaining about them never making games for it anymore. dead is dead get over it.

People like XI and XIV isn't XI.

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You seem to have a problem with the quoting system. May I refer you to the BBCode wiki...

As stated numerous times over and over again, with me and a lot of other ps2 users it has nothing to do with being cheap, in fact I have half a dozen systems (at least) that can play XI, however when I reactivate it will probably be to play on PS2. Last I checked the game can still play on dial-up and that's going to be my most stable connection where I currently live and the PS2 is the only thing with a modem in it anymore.

it's nothing like you and your atari, they still made ps2 games 2 years ago, get over yourself.

Not to mention people playing on the PS2 doesn't affect you in any way, get over it.

I have never had one of my posts broken up like that. You are my first! /blush

I have to say I never thought of it that way, but I should have.

That's spot-on.

Why are we clinging to the PS2 system for FFXI, people?

PS2 is a solid ...what? ... 13 years old now, right? It's a remarkable machine (relative to when it was developed) and it's certainly endured much longer than I think anyone could have expected, even Sony. Hell, I still have mine, and I let my kids use it to play their Disney DVD's.

But for gaming in 2011? Come on.

GameStop stores are no longer accepting PS2 games for trade-in value, and after this Christmas season, I've been told they're going to stop selling PS2 games all-together, including used discs.

That should tell us something, yeah?

It's time to move on.
I get that people don't like change, blah-blah-blah. Get over it.
Are you still wearing "carpenter" style jeans from the Gap today? Birkenstock sandals?
How about "chunky" shoes, ladies? No?

You all rocking out to The Wallflowers, No Doubt, and Blink 182, too?

If you're playing a PS2 still, you might as well be wearing those clothes and listening to that music.

It's not spot on, and it's 12 years old.

Not really, Sony expected to milk the system until 2009 (at least in the US market)

They still sell them new (last I checked) and have the largest library.

GameStop is a joke and will soon lose their market share with other better companies coming back to take the market that they had and left.

It tells us nothing, GameStop is a joke.

It has nothing to do with change, and definitely nothing to do with fashion, nothing could be more irrelevant.

People listen to what they enjoy, unless they are a tool and only listen to what's popular.

You're a tool.

Bob Dylan's son is awesome.

Implying half of the games on the PS2 aren't superior to the ***of today.

And in Japan PS2 games are still developed. It's like saying you don't watch any old movies or read any old books, because they must be obsolete.

edit: I'm pro PC, but comments like that are stupid.

Aside from FFXI, I notice most of the games I play are on the SNES; despite being played via virtual console/emulators.

1. the limitations people are bitching about aren't because people still play on ps2.

2. eww walmart pc, eww.

3. I have several computers even an i7 laptop, but I sometimes feel the urge to play on ps2.

(also MOST retail computers DO NOT come with modems anymore)

(that being said I have a few lying in a pile from old computers, however last one I tried to install for somebody didn't work because of incompatibility, windows vista/7 didn't like the old *** card.

I could get a USB adapter for dialup, but why bother?

indeed, they don't make games like they used to.

just agreed.


I can emulate the PS2 on my pc (last I checked they haven't gotten XI to work in it yet, but they were trying) but I don't often, so far only for X international.

Will that make everyone happy? if people stop playing XI on the physical ps2 if they play it on the emulated ps2 on the pc? huh? no? didn't figure.

edit: I had the strangest urge to play some Super Mario World earlier... my thoughts were "maybe I should find my snes emulator folder" (my computer is a clusterfuck of folders from multiple backups and moves from other computers...)

lol, games are still invented for emulated Nintendo. Retro games are being made all the time, Mega Man 9 for instance. The sad part, as Flion pointed out, is that they're often times better than "modern" games.

I refuse to buy retail anything, online a laptop but certainly not a desktop unless it was from a site and I'd wipe it and put my own OS on it.

I don't buy budget though, I don't pay for headaches.

Even if I had a modem in my laptop I'd still probably use the PS2, why? just cuz.

Same reason I play with a controller on the pc.

TBH I can try to just tether on my pc but I haven't been able to get it to stay stable enough for me to attempt to play, but I got another phone (and line) to tether to a computer (just downloaded the OS I'm going to use for the computer, gf's got cable internet) going to tether it to it, share it on the network via a router I just bought and connect that way, in that case I'll play on ps3 or 360.

Oh also, I usually multibox when I play, and since I have 1 laptop and 1 desktop that can play it (and the latter will be a server, also going to automate my backups, hopefully) I will have to use a console to multibox.

I miss playing 3 accounts at once.

edit: I miss playing

Oh Lord of the Latrine, welcome back from your cave.

Old movies and old books aren't obsolete. They're just ... old. Those are stories, which often become "better with age". Video games are different. Like most electronics, they do in fact become obsolete.

I suppose you like to watch TV on a black-and-white cathode-ray tube set sometimes, and you prefer to watch videos on VHS? Give me a break.

And while older games do have a certain nostalgia value to some, that's irrelevant to the discussion on the utility of the PS2 in 2011.

Like I said, I still own a PS2. That doesn't mean S-E should cater to the PS2 crowd for FFXI forever. I mean, let's just hypothesize ... and say FFXI is still a viable MMO in another ... oh, 7 years. Can you really say that S-E should cater to PS2 customers in 2018?
And if not, why not ditch it now? And if not now, when?

Protip: Hardware doesn't reflect directly on the quality of the software.
Does FFXI suddenly become a bad game because you're playing it on an older piece of equipment?

As one who plays a game usually for the story that's offensive.

Not to mention games are also works of art.

So no, they aren't different.

It's not irrelevant at all.

Even if SE dropped PS2 support today, it would change nothing for FFXI, that's what you and numerous other fools DO NOT REALIZE!

FFXI isn't a viable MMO in 2011, why do you think it didn't get an upgrade instead of that *** child known as XIV that SE produced?

There just isn't a market for XI to justify the expenditure for an upgrade, unless they somehow draw in a NEW crowd, don't see that as changing.

There was a thread stating that video games are considered art now, and rightfully so.

You saying that the hardware is being obsoleted, sure, but the video game itself isn't.

I frequent these sites all the time, and the majority of stuff they play is retro(and on a day to day basis):
http://www.speeddemosarchive.com
http://www.speedrunslive.com
http://www.tasvideos.org

New records are being made every day. I'm sorry, but Super Metroid, Ocarina of Time, Super Mario 64, and many more aren't going anywhere.

Most games are also 'Stories' which are just as good as they ever where, and if you are saying those get obsolete then you are saying all stories get obsolete. Also you're implying that you should only listen to audio books and read E-books because they are not obsolete.

And yes in fact I would watch a VHS. Prefer? No. That doesn't mean watching a VHS is obsolete.

And your exact words were "But for gaming in 2011?" so don't try to save face.

Also the fact that you were implying that a store like Gamestop (Who don't even cater to any game that isn't chart worthy) should justify when a gaming console is dead? Give me a break.

If you think that games can't be played on the PS2 you are sorely mistaken. The Xbox is the exact same hindrance to XI as the PS2 is. Probably even more so seeing as it's prone to RRod and Freeze more often.

I would prefer to play on the ps3 than the 360, possibly ps2 too depending on how far I wanted to be away with my controller.

TBH though, the ps2 and ps3 FFXI looks better if used on an old tv, if I'm using a new tv 360 or pc.

mix matching the two even with up scaling on ps3 just doesn't cut it.

There are certainly more software bugs in the 360 port, as for the RROD, only takes $16 and an hour to fix (less if you already have thermal paste) (assuming you have a heat gun, needle nose pliers and a t10 torx driver)

RROD tends to be recurring though. I mean I can fix it, and I have done so... but once you've had it once, it will more than likely happen again.

If I had access to a surface mount station I could replace the solder and fix it right.

When you fix it do you replace the crappy x clamps?

Yeah most of the time anyway, it depends on what model it is, the newer model with a jasper chip has pretty good xclamps on a hinge.